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Hence the need for a solid marketing plan that better convinces more players of the opportunity available to them in MN Some offseason comments by Ryan and St Peter that at times contradict what Antony said, and themselves (it took me all of 3 minutes to look up, cut and paste): http://twinsdaily.com/minnesota-twins-talk/4381-terry-ryan-mlb-network-sometime-next-50-minutes.html and Strib/ PiPress "We have been trying to sign pitching early this off-season!! Sometimes you can't give your money away" "You can't feel sorry for yourself. You have to just do something else." “There isn’t any shortcut to get where we want to go,” Ryan said. “I don’t think there’s any doubt about that.” "But Ryan's comments were pointed: 'This is not going to be a free agency approach.'" "When you're sitting in that GM chair it's a little different in terms of getting that agent to agree to that one-year deal. ... Particular from a free agent who's going to assess how close we are to really winning. You might identify a player who's a high-profile guy, but you've got to understand he also has to want to come play in Minnesota, play at Target Field." " I can tell you Terry Ryan has had a lot of discussions with a lot of free agents, a lot of guys you have championed that we sign. Don't think that we don't necessarily agree with you, but it takes two to get those deals done." "No. It's dollars and years. It's dollars and years. And at the end of the day, a player might have Option A and Option B, depending where they're from. He may be able to take less in Option A, but at the end of the day it's ultimately going to come down to dollars and years." On the many free agent starters who signed one-year deals with other teams: "We've had a rich history here, certainly during Terry's tenure, of trying to make good baseball decisions. And we certainly have a belief in what a guy's worth. I have to trust, with all due respect, I have to trust our evaluators. I think they've done a great job. We're trying to get better. And ultimately your assessment of a player, there might be a reason why a guy got a one-year deal versus a multi-year deal that perhaps we're more privy to than maybe the public is. Whether it's health, whether it's makeup, whether a player specifically wanted to play in a certain market or a certain ballpark or with a certain manager or a certain teammate."

One thing you learn in business, ANY situation can be effectively marketed, even this 2-year train wreck.

I am, I am, I was away doing more research with that google fallacy device.

Following the modicum as directed by the mod, may I gently suggest and guide you- there's this new invention that just came out called Google, feel free to type it in with the appropriate subject matter, or not. You can also just attach "Twins Daily" to the inquiry, there were pages of discussion on this just a few months ago, my statement is most certainly not retracted, you can consider it however you wish- as the "onus" moves you.

It's the Twins FO's job to make that "common sense" a lot less de rigueur. My point being, you have to develop a sell-able and all-encompassing comprehensive plan to present to prospective FAs and their agents, convincing them why a MN Twins offer is one they need to strongly consider. Particularly if they are now arguing that money and years isn't always the final determinant in where players sign.

Please read the previous comment and then feel free to choose to do your own homework, or not. If you are informed on this topic as you were on John Lannan, I understand your confusion.

Your confusion apparently extends to not following the Twins closely in the offseason, or even reading the multiple threads on TD that discussed Ryan's, St Peter's and Pohlad's public comments on their approach to Free Agency and their speculations and ruminations on why, and why not, players did, or did not, consider signing with the Twins.

Difficult to dodge something that doesn't exist....

1) " I may very well be wrong..." Yes 2) "I can recall anything that resembled 'whining to the media" Me too.

How about everything else that transpired in the offseason?

Can I get some of that action, too?

This was blatant misrepresentation of my post, which you are good at. I didn't say the interview was pathetic or sad, I said the way the Twins as an organization whined to the media after the fact was pathetic AND sad. FYI, Antony directly refuted St Peter's claims that getting FAs is only about dollars and years, perhaps he needs to brush up on his obscurity lessons, if that will keep you happier.

Thinking and/or researching before you post also comes in handy. It helps especially if you claim to "like the idea of keeping track of these guys." Lannan in 2013: [TABLE=class: tablehead mod-player-stats] [TR=class: colhead] DATE OPPONENT RESULT[TD=class: textright]IP[/TD] [TD=class: textright]H[/TD] [TD=class: textright]R[/TD] [TD=class: textright]ER[/TD] [TD=class: textright]HR[/TD] [TD=class: textright]BB[/TD] [TD=class: textright]SO[/TD] [TD=class: textright]GB[/TD] [TD=class: textright]FB[/TD] [TD=class: textright]TBF[/TD] [TD=class: textright]Pit[/TD] [TD=class: textright]Dec.[/TD] [TD=class: textright]Rel.[/TD] [TD=class: textright]ERA[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow] 04/17 @ CIN L 2-11[TD=class: textright]1.2[/TD] [TD=class: textright]8[/TD] [TD=class: textright]6[/TD] [TD=class: textright]6[/TD] [TD=class: textright]1[/TD] [TD=class: textright]1[/TD] [TD=class: textright]0[/TD] [TD=class: textright]3[/TD] [TD=class: textright]9[/TD] [TD=class: textright]14[/TD] [TD=class: textright]66[/TD] [TD=class: textright]L(0-1)[/TD] [TD=class: textright]--[/TD] [TD=class: textright]6.14[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow] 04/12 @ MIA W 3-1[TD=class: textright]6.0[/TD] [TD=class: textright]3[/TD] [TD=class: textright]1[/TD] [TD=class: textright]1[/TD] [TD=class: textright]0[/TD] [TD=class: textright]1[/TD] [TD=class: textright]2[/TD] [TD=class: textright]11[/TD] [TD=class: textright]7[/TD] [TD=class: textright]22[/TD] [TD=class: textright]92[/TD] [TD=class: textright]--[/TD] [TD=class: textright]--[/TD] [TD=class: textright]2.77[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow] 04/06 vs KC W 4-3[TD=class: textright]7.0[/TD] [TD=class: textright]5[/TD] [TD=class: textright]3[/TD] [TD=class: textright]3[/TD] [TD=class: textright]0[/TD] [TD=class: textright]0[/TD] [TD=class: textright]5[/TD] [TD=class: textright]18[/TD] [TD=class: textright]3[/TD] [TD=class: textright]27[/TD] [TD=class: textright]92[/TD] [TD=class: textright]--[/TD] [TD=class: textright]--[/TD] [TD=class: textright]3.86[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Hmm, one bad start in 3, directly attributable to the knee injury that he complained was causing him trouble throughout his appearance, he's seeing a specialist today. [TABLE=class: tablehead mod-player-stats] [TR=class: oddrow] [/TD][TD=class: textright] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: evenrow] [/TD] [TD=class: textright] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: oddrow] [/TD] [TD=class: textright] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [TD=class: textright][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

Hey, you can't have an online forum without judgement passing. Knee-jerk reactions are better than no reaction at all.

Please apply for a job as a scout for prospective FAs! Something along the lines of what you have proposed is exactly the way the Twins should have sold their opportunity, especially if there is any truth to the fact that it wasn't just "dollars and years". This "feeling sorry for ourselves", "nobody wants to come here", whining in the media by the braintrust was pathetic and sad.

Don't forget about Antony beclowning himself on the spring Rafael Perez signing: "We've signed him to be a starter..... and he's fully healthy!!!"

Gotta give credit where it's due, Dougie Fresh was the right hire for this group of up-and-comers. Stickler for fundamentals and grew up playing ball with A-Rod, he gives the high-ceiling prospects a good perspective on the game before heading to the next level.

Wait. What? The little Leprechaun is actually a closet Mexican? Or are you outing Carroll's hitherto unknown bilingual skills?

I don't know for sure if Bourbon is better than Boggs, but bourbon is definitely better than Borbon, or Tequila, for that matter. The fact about which GMs are all over the waiver wire says A LOT more about not being satisfied with the current status quo- confirmed Schumpeterian theories of continual re-invention of the enterprise and creative destruction

Yes!

Yes, and, yes.

No, I got it. Just pre-emptorily stemming the tide for the impending Free Dean! steamroller from those who didn't get your timely joke---- As much as he's an old fashioned Twins Way rag-armer, he's definitely not a major league potential starter

Otherwise known as the "Nolan Ryan Rule"...

These guys beg to differ with your conclusion: Alex Anthopoulos, Blue Jays: 22 claims Brian Cashman, Yankees: 14 claims Jed Hoyer, Cubs: 10 claims Dan Duquette, Orioles: 8 claims Billy Beane, Athletics: 8 claims Chris Antonetti, Indians: 8 claims

Heavens, no.