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  1. Dantes929
    He had a really strong case in 2008 also with the Mets. I think three CYA would get him there. He could have very reasonably had 4. The fact he only had two probably keeps him out.
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    In this day and age where athletes have contract provisions that keep them from many activities unrelated to their profession, ie baseball players not allowed to play basketball or hockey, I don't think it unreasonable to have contract provisions concerning weight. I always thought Hrbek's lack of conditioning might have kept him from the HOF. I think an agrees upon condition at various points in the season with monetary incentives or penalties is reasonable. Diet and workout regiment is related to that but as you say, its the weight that is the best indicator with a guy like Sano.
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    Cobb would probably cost a lot less and his ERA was better than Darvish and all in the AL. . Darvish at 3.86 ERA and 10-12 record. Their quality start ratios are roughly the same. Would love to have Darvish but is he really an ace? Santana's ERA is better both of the last two years and no one seems to think he is better than a #2.. Do we value SOs more than run prevention?
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    I read he is super fast also or at least 3.9 to 1st base for a 6'5" guy seems super fast to me and he has been playing outfield so I see no reason not to play him there also if he can hit. Too bad he bats lefty. Anyway with his size and speed I could see him being more likely to be a football player as a two way athlete. I heard he wants to play quarterback and linebacker.
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    Why not Kintzler? I thought he did very well for us and you appear to put him in the impact reliever category. I was prepared not to like him when he came up but all he did was pitch well for us for two years..
  6. Dantes929
    Obvious answer to all the questions but one is Shohei Otani. Top of rotation pitcher. Check DH most day. Check Backup outfielder. Check Bench bat on days he doesn't start. Check Pinch runner on days he doesn't start. Check (3.9 to 1st base?) Backup 1st base. Check 6'5" Only box he doesn't check is right handed bat but we can teach him to switch hit.
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    Definitely an incumbency factor which really diminishes the award for me. Hrbek never winning one always comes to mind. Gordon in the past has played so well in left field that I can hardly believe he shouldn't be on the 60 year team but 2017 he must have been perfect in games I didn't watch because he was far from it in games I did watch. Gibson has had some really good defensive seasons at pitcher but he could be the best ever and not get close to the award if his ERA is north of 4.00. Dozier? meh, he has had some better years based on my eyeball test but as has been pointed out there are probably worse winners every single year.
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    I'm more a guy that likes the brilliance even if short lived. Since their bWARs are so close, to me the extra 1400 innings Morris threw were at 0 WAR. I know it doesn't work that way and while Morris probably did have the better career Guidry was a better pitcher. I think most people think like you do since Morris probably has a much better shot at the Hall.
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    Like I said if Morris gets in I am not going to argue but he was never the pitcher at his best that these guys were. Guidry's 1978 season was insane. 9 complete game shut outs. 5 more complete games of giving up just one run. 30-5 in games he started on a team that needed game 163 to make the WS. Then pitched two games in playoffs of 17 innings and 2 runs. Santana has a similar case and I hate to think that maybe getting jobbed out of a Cy Young might be the difference. I think three of any title should get you strong consideration which is what we hang our hats on for Mauer and Oliva. Three Cy Youngs should be automatic even if you just pitch three seasons.
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    Though a shorter career Ron Guidry was a much better pitcher than Morris. Better bWAR in 180 fewer games and a much better ERA and ERA+. Also had a season like few have had before or since to go along with a WS. I don't care a whole lot but I still go with brighter shorter career over longevity within reason.
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    I'm not entirely with you on the premise. Every successful or impact SP was an unproven prospect at one time that some one promoted to fill a spot in the rotation. World Series contention is what happened when Cleveland relied on Salazar and Kluver to fill spots in their rotation and I could probably come up with dozens of other examples but you get the drift. Of course there are plenty of examples of going the other way. I am still on the Cobb band wagon and think he could have a very big impact on our rotation though don't know if he would fit your definition of impact SP. If he does then I am completely on board with your last sentence. If the Twins came out of the gate with that signing like they did with Castro a year ago I would immediately rate their off season a B+. As far as myths go I agree with Sconnie. If you think myth 2 is not a myth then myth one becomes pointless.
  12. Dantes929
    Get Cobb. Rotation of Santana, Berrios, Gibson, Cobb. Let ST be the competition between Mejia and May with the loser waiting in the wings as a starter in the minors along with Gonsalves. Starting rotation at beginning of the year is rarely the one in June.
  13. Dantes929
    I get that Deleon may end up being a piece that is well worth having but don't understand why anyone would wish we had made the deal. If the front office is really high on him still I am sure he could be acquired now for something far less than Dozier.
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    As I pointed out earlier that top of the rotation pitcher you refer to was 36 and had a prior two year record of 21-32 with an ERA north of 4.5. If you had been the GM at the time you would have said what is the point of signing a washed up veteran if he is not going to win a WS for us and held out for and not gotten Welsh Clemens or Stewart. Just two years ago KC won it all without even a sniff of a top of the rotation guy. We have just seen in these playoffs aces getting shelled and best bullpens in baseball getting rocked. Yeah, I'll take my chances in the playoffs but without giving up on them just because of your notions on what it takes to advance. All #2 and 3 type pitchers are capable of throwing like aces for periods of time and I would be happy to get as many as possible and would not feel like it was throwing in the towel and resigning the team to mediocrity if we didn't have any of what you considered to be an ace.
  15. Dantes929
    Well,.. we haven't exactly signed him yet.
  16. Dantes929
    Cobb's not old. He has a good career resume and he has a good year since his surgery under his belt. His numbers are also AL which is great for me since when any NL pitcher's name surfaces I add .5 to their ERA just as a matter of course. Cobb's 2017 season ranks him ahead of Berrios and behind only Santana. His career ERA against every AL East team is under 3.5 and it is under 3 against the Yankees. Lynn and Chatwood do not excite me but Cobb does and I am not sure why he doesn't excite everyone. As far as I can see he would be the best free agent pitcher the Twins have ever signed without the benefit of hindsight. (Morris was 36 coming off two seasons over 4.5 ERA). If the ONLY thing the Twins did this off season was sign Cobb I would be happy. Someone talk me down here.
  17. Dantes929
    I guess Hrbek never getting one should have taught us that lesson.
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    I'm fine with that. If the award is to mean anything both things should be ripped.... and shredded. Seriously, I don't know how Mauer did with runs above replacement but considering every time he sat it seemed like errors and mistakes were made over there so runs above OUR replacements was probably better than Buxton's. Buxton should have run away with it and from what I actually witnessed among other first basemen when we played them, Mauer should have been comfortably ahead there also. Yeah, Dozier being a finalist feels a little like Melanie Griffith getting a nomination for an Oscar. OK maybe that dates me and is a little extreme but still.
  19. Dantes929
    Debating at a little cross purposes here. I agree with you especially with paragraph 1, 3 and 4. Especially 3! In theory. Its math, which doesn't lie. But then you add in human nature. You can give a guy 30 mil up front and 5 mil a year for 6 years which is much better than 10 mil a year for 6 years but if the player is going great he is going to downplay the upfront money after a few years and say "I am worth way more than 5 mil a year" and his agent who explained the front loading concept 3 years ago and pocketed the huge commission up front is going to say "I agree. Lets go renegotiate for a 2 year extension that will pay you the 10 mil a year for the remainder of your contract and fair market value for the extra two years"
  20. Dantes929
    Potential superstar position player presumably has pretty good trade value. If I look at him as a risk of not reaching that potential in terms of giving a long term deal what kind of value could he get back in a trade? I just threw very good SP out there. If you say no way, then what would you say "hey that's reasonable" to? I like Sano but he had a good year and his OPS was just a little higher than Rosario and there were posts saying it would take Rosario, Gonsalves and Gordon to get Archer alone. What is the equivalent of Sano? I like your algebra.
  21. Dantes929
    "The player thing is just stupid. That's what agents are for, to explain what it's stupid. I'm not saying you're wrong about the players' attitudes regarding pay, I'm just saying it's really stupid (and you know why it's stupid)." Not quite getting this especially since you said he might not be wrong. It might be stupid but its also real. Agents can explain all they want in the 3rd year of a 6 year contract that the player already received a bunch of money up front but that will be considered ancient history to the player and more likely, from what I know of agents, they would be backing the player on a renegotiation with a one or two year extension. This of course negates the value of the up front money. I do like the idea of front loading because as Mikesixel said I don't think the Twins are looking at the money they have spent under the 52% the last 6 years as money they can now spend in addition to 52% of current revenue. Front loading is a great theory I am just guessing there is more reason for not doing it than time value of money.
  22. Dantes929
    Mostly on board with this but there are options. Back when Sano was the #2 prospect I threw out the idea of trading him for Lindor or Correia who were also top 10 at the time but below Sano. Now I wonder what kind of package we can get for him in a trade. On another thread people were talking about the high price tag of Chris Archer. Would Sano do it alone or more? Would a guy like Archer plus maybe a reliever be worth the 100+ drop in OPS between Sano and Escobar?
  23. Dantes929
    If you look at their pitching staff and their individual and collective stats and the fact that they were outscored by 20 runs during the regular season. You see that Viola and Berenguer were the only two pitchers with ERAs below 4, their team ERA of 4.63 was 11th in the AL and the offense actually scored below the league average it will be hard to come up with a worse WS winner. However, do you know what they call the worst team to win a World Series? Answer. World Series Champion
  24. Dantes929
    Curtiss? Busenitz? Would like to see Kintzler back but not for 3 years and preferably not for 2. Pay him big for one year. He's earned it for us at least.
  25. Dantes929
    spelling is a bit of a problem. On the plus side, I entered Rosario and hit twice.
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