Riverbrian

Can you please fact check. That's Brett Somers in a photo taken mere seconds before she passed out because she didn't think of Tiny Tom Tinkle! She is famous because she was the ex-wife of Oscar Madison. I don't know who the guy with the Pipe is but he seems to have the same color fashion sense that I have. His name is clearly Charles and his Green and Red lights seem to be not working.

It's not irrelevant to the point I'm making! I thought you were smart enough to know that. Do you not understand the point that I'm making? Forget the money reference if it's confusing the point I'm making. Them Tigers seemed to get hot after the Vets were traded, released, hurt or placed on the inactive list. Them Tigers are awfully young and winning baseball games and I am therefore cheering for them. Is that better? Is it your intention to focus the conversation to the 98.5 Million and where the players making the BULK of that money are since the Tigers took off like a rocket without them? If you require me to take that approach... I'll gladly do it and we will just to end up at the same location. Which is of course. Them Tigers seemed to get hot after the vets were traded, released, hurt or placed on the inactive list. Them Tigers are awfully young and winning baseball games and I am therefore cheering for them. As for your Correa, Buxton, Kepler and Ryan argument. I'll give you Baez and his 25 million so you can place him in your group. I'll even give you Trey Sweeney since he was acquired in the Flaherty deal. Not sure if Baez and Sweeney are going to be helpful to ya... Because Them Tigers seemed to get hot after the vets were traded, released, hurt or placed on the inactive list and I am therefore cheering for them. Even though I really hate cheering for the Tigers.

Oscar Madison!!! He's the one with the quote, he had a lot of witty sayings as a sportswriter for the New York Herald. He was a reported slob. Which is just another social media rumor spread by people who are cruel, judgmental and quick to label others. I'm not sure where I came up with that Gene Wilder stuff.

I don't remember who but someone much smarter than me once said. "When the God's wish to punish us... they answer our prayers". I think it was Olivia Wilde or Gene Wilder who said it. Charles Nelson Reilly who we all know as the actor who play Gary Burghoff on the Series M.A.S.H once said. "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know". Charles Nelson Reilly has the ability to know a helicopter is coming before it even takes off and he is from Iowa so I would certainly listen to him.

In my opinion... 1. All teams are using analytics. How each individual team weights individual data is most likely the differences from organizations in terms of application of the data. 2. The data is important but it is yesterday's news. I'm sure that there are moments when it can be predictive but a pitcher can render previous data useless by learning and perfecting a new pitch or a batter adjusting his swing for better timing. All teams use data but all teams also employ a boat load of coaches that are employed for the purpose of making players better and confounding that previous data rendering it useless at least temporarily. Data and coaching must be married together.... it's goofy to ignore one or the other. 3. When people say Rocco only cares about the spreadsheet in an attempt to vilify him. The first thing that pops into my head... how do they know what is on the spreadsheet. How can they be sure that Rocco didn't ignore the spreadsheet instead of faithfully follow it?

No doubt... It's going to take some time to repair. We have to get a lost generation back but they can be brought back. New people are born every day. Marketing can and does change opinions. Old Spice was on the brink of collapse. They took a new approach out of desperation, did some clever marketing and today in 2024... I have Old Spice under my armpits as I type this.

o·ver·due /ˌōvərˈdo͞o/ adjective 1.1 having been needed for some time. "major league baseball accessibility reform is way past overdue"

I believe so

I'm having a hard time routing for Detroit because they are Detroit... But Yeah... I am cheering for them... for the exact reason that you state. I want to see a 20 million dollar club win it all and then watch everybody forget that it happened when everybody loses their minds over the Twins not spending money next year. I want to see a 20 million dollar club win it all and then watch everybody forget that it happened when they dismiss young players next year.

Lots of complication with this but... Ultimately... First and Foremost... You have to increase interest in Baseball. Nothing is solved or sustainable without increasing interest in baseball. Even if you haven't figured out how to monetize that interest. You still have to increase interest in baseball. Selling exclusivity is a self imposed handicap to increasing interest in the game of baseball. Selling exclusivity is the exact opposite of what baseball needs because it limits accessibility. No RSN is going to be able to sell advertising at a decent rate without significant audience to charge those prices and their audience sized will be lowered significantly if consumers can watch the product elsewhere. Exclusivity is part of the deal if you want that short term money meanwhile that exclusivity that you sold sets forth an inevitable downward spiral of waning interest because exclusivity limits accessibility. It is simply way past time to cut out the middle man and take control of your product. The regional sports networks have account managers who sell advertising. The Twins can also employ account managers who sell advertising and keep the profits that RSN's made for themselves which hopefully more than they paid for the rights. No middle man necessary. By handling it in-house... the Twins will be able to sell advertising across all platforms which is something the RSN's can't do. By combining your platforms, blackouts are no longer necessary, accessibility is a reality, the middle man profits are now yours, interest is increased and maybe you sell a few more Royce Lewis jerseys in Vermont. Yes... the downfall of the RSN is going to be a tough adjustment in the short term but it's fantastic news long term. This isn't as simple as we got 45 million dollars from the RSN, let them take the risk and do all the work. It isn't as simple as the Padres have 40,000 subscribers and as result made X amount from those subscribers. How quickly can the Twins can put this together. Let's find out. They failed in their swiftness last year.

It was sure nice of Michael Massey to say what he said. Not sure it's accurate. But it was nice of him to say it.

That is just a little bit more than I spent remodeling my bathroom. In hindsight... My wife probably didn't need that walk in shower with room for 20 people.

If the Twins win a playoff series next year. Then people will say that the Twins have only done it twice since 2002. The incredible losing playoff streak was yesterday. It no longer matters. Knocking off the Jays was Yesterday... It also no longer matters. Late March 2025... A new season will begin. What happened in 2002 won't matter.

The Tigers can't say that. They got rid of every single veteran. Only 3 players on the roster have reached arbitration. Casey Mize is the most seasoned guy with 3.111 years. Javier Baez making 23 million and Kenta Maeda making 14 million. Both of them are not on the playoff roster. After that 37 million... the rest of the team is probably around 10 million dollars. I don't know... I didn't do the math.

I knew what you meant. Chief knew what you meant. Chief knew what I meant by a million miles an hour. On August 17th... The Twins were 72-53. Just 2 games behind Cleveland. 2.5 games behind the Yankees. I believe you are right. It's not just about winning.

I suppose you also tell me that Wallner exit velo's are nowhere near a million miles an hour.

Exactly, Winning team for most of the year. Attendance didn't seem to reflect that. If your marketing team isn't pumping the second best record in July. People won't know that they had the 2nd best record in July. They won't know that something is happening in July. If it's not selling the Jose Miranda hit streak as it happens, you don't sell seats you could have sold on July 6th. If it's not selling the Royce Lewis Grand Slams after one occurs, the arrival of Brooks Lee and David Festa, Matt Wallner exit velocities over 1 million miles an hour. Your Marketing team isn't pumping out positives. If you don't pump out positives what is going to fill the void? Negatives will fill the void. The Pohlads are cheap, the Twins don't care about winning, Rocco Baldelli is a terrible manager becomes the narrative. If you don't market your team, sell your team... others will do it for you and the others... you clearly don't want them marketing your team. Because it'll start looking like a Twinsdaily game thread.

I listened to those ads and was thinking the same thing as you. They can't update their advertising package to fit the context of the day? Voiceover talent should be on the ready and production should be on retainer, distribution should be already in place so that new ad produced Friday Night after the July 5 game can be all over the ****ing place on Saturday Morning. The Ad should go something like this. It's rare to see something that only comes around every 70 years. Something that only comes around every 70 years is special. Today you can tell everybody that you were there to see it. Jose Miranda has 10 straight hits. That's hard to do. The All-Time baseball record of 12 was set back in 1952. Can Jose do it two more times... can he do it three more times... when will the Jose Miranda hit streak come to stop. Come see for yourself. Come to Target Field today at 1:10 and watch Jose Miranda go for history. Can't do that because they set it and forget it with ads produced back in March.

You are correct. All anyone has to do is look at the demographics of those still with cable. Mostly older folks. Cable isn't reaching younger demographics because they have already cut the cord... and surprise surprise... as a result... baseball demographics look a lot the cable audiences. Mostly older folks. Makes perfect sense that both demo's are similar since cable is the sole vehicle utilized to deliver their product to the masses. Hey lookie here... Cable and Baseball have the same demo's... how did that happen? Those who have a young family to bring to the game RIGHT NOW they have no idea what channel 623 is. Baseball marketing shouldn't be targeting the same folks the marketing teams for medication, hearing aids and bathroom grab bars are trying to reach if they want to have a decent sized audience in 15 years.

Margot 0 for 30 as a pinch hitter kinda shoots a hole in the value of the data alone approach.

Agreed. I don't have answers on how but I do I believe that... for the sake of overall interest in the sport, for the demographic health of the game and therefore the future of the game. In the end... sooner rather than later (It's already Later). The Twins need to be accessible beyond the regional demographics of cable. They need to be everywhere everybody is and then they need to figure out how to monetize it. Even if they have to figure out the money part afterwards. However... It's hard to point directly at something like the Padres model without knowing what kind of revenue it is currently producing or could produce going forward. With that said... Hindsight clearly says that the going back to Diamond/Bally was a big mistake because selling exclusive rights to a company that can't provide the product to YOUR consumers is BAD.

This one year deal with Diamond/Bally that they signed. There has been speculation that the number agreed to was in the upper 40 millions. To my knowledge the number was undisclosed. Absent that information I still have a question that I don't know the answer to. Did Diamond/Bally bid against themselves? What drove the price up to 48 million or whatever it was. If nobody is willing to give the Twins 35 Million for broadcast rights for example. Why would Diamond Pay 48 million or (insert correct number here)? In order for money to get to where it got. Something had to compete for it? I ask this question because ultimately... I am still pissed that I couldn't watch the Twins for a good chunk of the summer and didn't like being told that it couldn't be helped. And... on the subject of not being able to watch the Twins. I went for walks. I watched Netflix instead. I was a little less of a Twins fan as a result. I can see this having an effect on attendance. It's entertainment... if you force people to find other entertainment... they will. I was forced to.

Sounds like they have already appointed Buster Posey. Pulled Buster out of a board of directors chair... which is interesting because the board of directors are 6 individuals who have most likely made Farhan Zaidi squirm for the past 6 years. Now Posey can feel the heat he once provided. I'm going to guess that the Giants will go a completely different direction under Posey since the other direction required a change. If the job was still open and the search on going. Lavine replacing Zaidi would be like Mary Kate Olsen replacing Ashley. The Twins and Giants have been very similar in approach. The Giants having much more money available being the primary difference. Lavine would have to convince the Giants in the interview that it's a good thing that he did the same thing in Minnesota because it didn't work here either.

Which owners are part of the community? Which owners are bucking the trend?

I'm not going to spend any time worrying about this sort of thing. The team collapsed and now we have players in their 20's trying to explain, process, deal with it in the public eye. Some fingers got pointed which isn't surprising since both Correa and Lewis tend to speak a little more free than they probably should and the collapse was... well... enormous. Could you imagine being asked to explain what happened to the press... a collapse that was off the charts in size while the press is going to reduce whatever you say to a soundbite. I don't know for answer to the question won't suffice and a soundbite isn't going to cover it.