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Everything posted by Brock Beauchamp
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Words I didn't expect to hear during the 2012 season. JR's "sign every scrub and see what they do in the minors" strategy has paid some unexpected dividends in the short term.
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R Kelly took it back for the black man. [video=youtube;zFosUj6A22c]
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As I mentioned in the locked thread, I view this kind of "creeping racism" as a problem with society as a whole, not any particular person. Bremer certainly meant nothing hurtful by the remark but that doesn't necessarily make it okay or make it right. As a white male, it's not my call to decide which terms are offensive and which are not. Bremer has to talk a lot every night and I'm almost positive that he has used the term to refer to players of every color. But, again, that doesn't mean we should be using the term in 2012 America. As a middle-class white male, stuff happens around me all that time that I never consider "racist" or "hurtful" but that doesn't mean it isn't hurtful to others. Admittedly, I'm oblivious to many such incidents because they don't affect me, my heritage, or my immediate circle of friends/family. Either way, it does not make him a racist. It might make him a little oblivious to things he says (something we're all guilty of doing, no matter your race or creed) but it doesn't make him some kind of White Devil and calling him out as such is over the top and unnecessarily inflammatory.
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That makes sense as property implies ownership, which clubs have over players for six years. I have no real problem with the use of the word, though I can understand how others may feel differently. But whether you agree or disagree with its usage, the term certainly does not make Dick Bremer a racist.
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What you continue to do is lump "lazy" with "needy". It's your insistence on this that muddles the issue. People with disabilities, the elderly, children - these are people we can and should help. That we should provide for. The lazy should be given, to use your words, a "chance" not a "pass". You use a lot of language that masks what you're really saying - I'm all for programs that give people a "chance" but what they do now is offer a "pass" - that's the problem. People on the left, much like you have in this thread, immediately resort to the "don't shoot the poor bunny routine" anytime any reform effort is made. You immediately throw out these absurd "people dying in the streets" nonsense to mask a larger point - The system is rife with fraud. Not because we don't put enough money into it - but because we EXPECT people will continue to fail and need us. And that we're ok giving them a "pass" if it avoids these silly worst-case scenarios you keep bringing up. If we give people a mile's worth of slack to be lazy - it isn't too shocking that they take every damn bit of that mile. Levi, what do you think of "pay to work" programs? I think that's a step in the right direction. Someone on welfare gets a job that pays them roughly the same amount they make on welfare. They continue to receive, say, 50% of their welfare check for six months, at which point it drops to 25% with the expectation that they are making more money at their job. You can slide the timelines around all you like, I'm not really interested in debating that point. I just think it gives people a REAL incentive to go back to work and become a productive member of society instead of leeching from the system forever. It's the type of common sense approach to this problem that neither side seems very interesting in pursuing. Oh, and we really need to hand out as many free contraceptives and birth control programs as possible to welfare recipients. If they want to avoid having children, we need to encourage that, not discourage it. Those two things could go a long way toward making social programs more solvent and funding wasn't even "cut" so much as "moved around".
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I don't think he has options. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. At this point, it might be worth keeping him on the ML squad just in case he figures it out. He has more value than Blackburn, that's for sure.
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Is "Property of Twins" appropriate?
Brock Beauchamp replied to Thrylos's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I like to call stuff like this "creeping racism". Should Bremer have said it? Probably not. Should he be called a racist for saying it? Most definitely not. That term is common usage in the sports world. It's a mildly insulting phrase to use on any player... More so if that player is black, probably. I'm not black and I'm not Delmon Young so that's not my call to make. But calling someone "property" casually is one thing while outright calling someone a racist for it is another thing entirely. If this thread had been presented as opening discourse on why it might not be okay to use a term like that when referring to a player in 2012 America, it could have led to interesting discussion. But that's not what happened. A term like that is probably more of an indictment on society itself, not Bremer, and calling Dick a racist for it is out of line (as is directly insulting the poster who did it). There is a Report Post function on the forum. Instead of insulting the poster, report him or challenge his point civilly instead of resorting to petty insults. That's my take on it, anyway. -
An honest question Bonnes....
Brock Beauchamp replied to DaveW's topic in Twins Daily Issues & Suggestions
In all fairness to John, I probably would have done the same thing if I saw this thread at 2am. You never know what can happen in the middle of the night when posters get a little tipsy and start ramping a thread toward Extreme Forum Meltdown. I certainly think Thrylos was out of line with that thread but that doesn't give carte blanche to other posters insulting him. All in all, it's an ugly situation. And in a situation like that, sometimes it's better to shut it down if you can't monitor the situation all night long. Nobody was banned for it and it looks like John was just taking preventive measures so he didn't wake up to a chaotic forum with drunken monkeys hanging from the chandeliers. I'm sure we'll have plenty of discussion about it later today. -
At this point, I don't see why they shouldn't give him a shot at second. If he fails, so be it. If he succeeds, he's the new Denny Hocking. While we loved to lambast Hocking back in the day, that type of player has a lot of value to a team.
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Trans-vaginal ultrasounds. If you don't think that's a declaration of war on women and their rights, I guess we'll just have to disagree on that. Equal pay laws are being demolished across the country. Whenever and wherever they can, the GOP is creeping in on contraceptive laws. Places like Georgia are trying to pass bills that make abortion after 20 weeks illegal, even if the child is stillborn. You may not think that's a war on women but it sure comes off that way to me. I also used the term "extend tax cuts for the wealthy", which is 100% true. Bush cut taxes, now we're talking about extending them. The term "job creators" is a re-packaged version of trickle down economics that is being sold to the American public by portions of the GOP (not all, just some). I'm basically calling it out for what it is, that's all. It's an economic theory I think is complete and utter crap. The thing is that I'm not a GOP member. Haven't been for almost 15 years (again, registered Libertarian). But I voted Republican far more often than I voted Democrat. I tolerated the GOP on social issues when I agreed with their fiscal policy. Then came Bush, a President who spent money like a drunken Democrat in Atlantic City. He also brought an exaggerated view on social policies with him. He was essentially a hybrid Democrat/Republican that was the worst of both worlds to me. Thankfully, he's gone... But in his place rose a crop of even more socially radical Republicans, the Tea Party, with great ideas such as "let's teach creationism in a science class, even though it's not science" and they riled up the GOP base so much that they ran several moderate Republicans (and Democrats) out of Congress. Instead of coming toward the middle on social issues and focusing on the economy, the GOP has drifted to the extremes... I still agree with them on some fiscal issues but those things are so overwhelmed by how much I disagree with the party on social issues that I can no longer vote for most Republicans in good conscience. Now, it's Voter ID laws, which are the most blatant attempt to rig the polls that I've ever seen. Voter fraud isn't a problem in this country and the small amount of fraud that happens isn't going to be fixed by these asinine laws. Most of these laws don't even cover absentee balloting, which is the easiest way to commit voter fraud (still not a problem, though). Absentee voting also happens to be a traditionally Republican voting block... It's just sickening. And the public is buying into it. Democracy is supposed to be an inclusive process god damn it, not something that parties are able to use to their own benefit by twisting laws around. In itself, Voter ID laws are almost enough to prevent me from checking a single ® on my ballot this November. That's how much it repulses me. Until the party eschews its crazy, radical side, I don't see how I can vote for a GOP Presidential candidate, even a moderate like Romney (who, in a vacuum, I don't believe would be a bad President, though I really don't like how much he's in bed with the banking industry). He's going to be pressured on all sides to start doing things I really disagree with and if Congress stays under GOP control, it makes it easier for the nutjobs to start railroading insane social bills through Congress and getting them on to Mitt's desk. Thankfully, I believe most of the country agrees with me. I don't see Romney winning this election and given the current state of the GOP, I think that's a good thing.
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When Mitt Romney sits down in front of his computer and registers on Twins Daily, I'll worry about political cheap shots sent across his bow. Until that happens, someone disagreeing with a public figure and stating an opinion isnt your concern and it certainly does not give you license to insult said poster. I've said all there is to say on this. Let it rest and go back to your conversation.
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You were warned. Don't insult people. Keep the conversation above board or leave. It's that simple. By the way, I "joined this conversation" two pages ago and I commented on Pseudo's statement while you were calling him an ass (look at the time stamps). And don't insult my intelligence by claiming you were referencing the party mascot. If I "wanted" to ban you, I would have done it SIX YEARS AGO.
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Twins vs Tigers, 08-13-2012, 7:10pm
Brock Beauchamp replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
I imagine it went something like this: JR: Nishi has been hitting well. We should see what we have for 2013. Call him up. Game 1: Well, he has the jitters. It happens. Game 2: Did he just walk away from that ball? Game 3: Seriously. **** this guy. -
What's to Blame for the Rotation?
Brock Beauchamp replied to YourHouseIsMyHouse's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Shouldn't the Twins be allowed to play two full seasons before we start declaring this two season stretch the worst in history and declaring it as "fact"? Generally, I believe "facts" are reserved for things that have actually happened, not based on future speculation. -
Call someone a name again and you get the ban. I've posted all over these forums about where we draw the line and you just crossed it. If you can't discuss something civilly, find a different place to do it.
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Gotta love the classless left. You people don't know how to hide your true colors. Pseudo stated it pretty plainly. The Mormon Church is a better run business than most actual businesses. Their net worth is outrageous. If anything, that's a compliment, not an insult. But go ahead and feign outrage if it makes you feel better about it.
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Twins vs Tigers, 08-13-2012, 7:10pm
Brock Beauchamp replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
Twins: Ben Revere CF Darin Mastroianni RF Joe Mauer 1B Josh Willingham LF Justin Morneau DH Ryan Doumit C Trevor Plouffe 3B Jamey Carroll SS Alexi Casilla 2B (Sam Deduno P) Tigers: Austin Jackson CF Andy Dirks LF Miguel Cabrera 3B Prince Fielder 1B Alex Avila C Delmon Young DH Brennan Boesch RF Jhonny Peralta SS Omar Infante 2B (Anibal Sanchez P) -
You sound like an impartial independent voter with all the forgoing. >> I hope no on carelessly drops an ember on this field of straw men. Don't bother asking me to point all them out either in order to begin an argument. Just read it over carefully and reflectively. Be proud to call yourself progressive/liberal and move on.org. Funny. You know me so well. I've voted for about twice as many Republicans as I have Democrats over the past 15 years. I've never voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate (would have voted for Obama but my absentee ballot was screwed up and I never received it). The problem, as I said earlier, is that the Republican Party stopped representing the bulk of my viewpoints (I've been a registered Libertarian for 13 years). Where I used to hold my nose over social issues and stamp that GOP candidate on my ballot because of economic issues, I can no longer do so in good conscience. The GOP has taken the last ten years and completely disenfranchised me as a voter. They started a completely unnecessary war. They continue to launch ridiculous campaigns against women's rights. They have let the religious nutjobs take over the party and destroy any goodwill I had for the party as a whole. They stopped even pretending to be fiscally responsible. I take it you missed the part where I advocated "tearing apart the education system"... Yeah, that's a really "liberal" idea, what with the teacher's union being a staunch Democratic support network for the past 30 years and all. Once upon a time, I was able to laugh at Democrats as being naive, doey-eyed hippies whose feet were floating in the clouds while the GOP was full of grounded pragmatists. Slowly, the Democrats have become the pragmatists (somewhat, anyway) while the GOP has launched into the stratosphere promoting non-sensical arguments that cannot be settled with one another. On the one hand, you have a GOP that wants "personal responsibility" and for people to get off the government dole. On the other hand, you have a GOP that is trying to prevent women from getting free/cheap birth control and/or have abortions to prevent unwanted children. Hell, I think the government should give away birth control. Why? Because it's the cheap thing to do. You could feed an entire county of women birth control for five years for the cost of raising one kid on the government dole. You can't force poor people to stop having children but you can gain some of the effect by giving them a bounty of options on how not to breed. Problem marginalized with a few truckloads of pills... That's pragmatism at its finest. But that will never happen because the influx of religious zealotry has completely destroyed the pragmatic GOP that I once supported. So, go ahead and call me a Liberal. I don't really care because I know it's not true (not that it's an insult anyway). I've remained mostly the same. It's the GOP that moved away from me, not the other way around. I'm still looking for rational, well-balanced solutions to problems. I'd love to vote for a GOP candidate (Huntsman, anyone?) but the GOP stopped nominating people I could stomach quite some time ago and when they do nominate someone I can stand (I don't actually think Romney is that bad), that candidate has to backtrack on any "liberal" ideas they have so heavily and strongly support ridiculous religious rhetoric in its place that you have no idea who you're voting for anymore.
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The Twins suffered another home sweep over the weekend, falling to the Tampa Bay Rays three in three consecutive games. Hoping to play the role of spoiler against a division rival, the Twins settle in for a three game set against the Detroit Tigers. Going for the Tigers in the first game is newly-acquired righty Anibal Sanchez, who has struggled with the Tigers in three starts since being traded before the non-waiver deadline last month. Against Sanchez goes enigmatic Sam Deduno, hoping to get his pitches under control in a bid to stick with the Twins (or anywhere, really) in 2013. What do you expect in this series? The Twins continue to struggle at home and it's hard to predict what we'll see with Deduno on the mound. On the upside, at least Justin Morneau continues to mash the ball... Game 1: Sam Deduno [TABLE=class: stats_table, width: 600] [TH=class: dg-season, align: center] [/TH] [TH=class: dg-w, align: center]W[/TH] [TH=class: dg-l, align: center]L[/TH] [TH=class: dg-era, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-gs, align: center]GS[/TH] [TH=class: dg-cg, align: center]CG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-sho, align: center]SHO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-er, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hr, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hb, align: center]HB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-bb, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ibb, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-so, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-avg, align: center]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-whip, align: center]WHIP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]GO/AO[/TH] [TD=class: dg-season]SEASON[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]3.27[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]33.0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]27[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]13[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]12[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]25[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]22[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].231[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.58[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.92[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-season]MLB Totals[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]3.26[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]12[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]38.2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]35[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]15[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]14[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]5[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]29[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]29[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].246[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.66[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.96[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Anibal Sanchez [TABLE=class: stats_table, width: 600] [TH=class: dg-season, align: center] [/TH] [TH=class: dg-w, align: center]W[/TH] [TH=class: dg-l, align: center]L[/TH] [TH=class: dg-era, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-gs, align: center]GS[/TH] [TH=class: dg-cg, align: center]CG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-sho, align: center]SHO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-er, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hr, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hb, align: center]HB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-bb, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ibb, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-so, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-avg, align: center]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-whip, align: center]WHIP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]GO/AO[/TH] [TD=class: dg-season]SEASON[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]9[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]4.37[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]22[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]22[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]136.0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]142[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]73[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]66[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]16[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]40[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]120[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].270[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.34[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.16[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-season]MLB Totals[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]45[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]47[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]3.83[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]136[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]135[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]809.1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]792[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]377[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]344[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]75[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]29[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]312[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]24[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]686[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].256[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.36[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.06[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Game 2: Brian Duensing [TABLE=class: stats_table, width: 600] [TH=class: dg-season, align: center] [/TH] [TH=class: dg-w, align: center]W[/TH] [TH=class: dg-l, align: center]L[/TH] [TH=class: dg-era, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-gs, align: center]GS[/TH] [TH=class: dg-cg, align: center]CG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-sho, align: center]SHO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-er, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hr, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hb, align: center]HB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-bb, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ibb, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-so, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-avg, align: center]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-whip, align: center]WHIP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]GO/AO[/TH] [TD=class: dg-season]SEASON[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]7[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]4.46[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]40[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]7[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]72.2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]84[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]42[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]36[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]7[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]17[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]39[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].291[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.39[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]0.98[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-season]MLB Totals[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]26[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]26[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]4.05[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]149[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]57[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]449.0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]483[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]223[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]202[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]46[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]9[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]135[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]11[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]285[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].276[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.38[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.19[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Doug Fister [TABLE=class: stats_table, width: 600] [TH=class: dg-season, align: center] [/TH] [TH=class: dg-w, align: center]W[/TH] [TH=class: dg-l, align: center]L[/TH] [TH=class: dg-era, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-gs, align: center]GS[/TH] [TH=class: dg-cg, align: center]CG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-sho, align: center]SHO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-er, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hr, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hb, align: center]HB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-bb, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ibb, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-so, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-avg, align: center]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-whip, align: center]WHIP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]GO/AO[/TH] [TD=class: dg-season]SEASON[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]7[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]3.48[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]17[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]17[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]106.0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]106[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]45[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]41[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]9[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]21[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]89[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].258[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.20[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.55[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-season]MLB Totals[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]26[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]38[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]3.49[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]88[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]86[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]554.1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]549[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]235[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]215[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]44[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]22[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]105[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]5[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]364[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].257[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.18[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.20[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Game 3: Cole De Vries [TABLE=class: stats_table, width: 600] [TH=class: dg-season, align: center] [/TH] [TH=class: dg-w, align: center]W[/TH] [TH=class: dg-l, align: center]L[/TH] [TH=class: dg-era, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-gs, align: center]GS[/TH] [TH=class: dg-cg, align: center]CG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-sho, align: center]SHO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-er, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hr, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hb, align: center]HB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-bb, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ibb, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-so, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-avg, align: center]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-whip, align: center]WHIP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]GO/AO[/TH] [TD=class: dg-season]SEASON[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]4.77[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]12[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]11[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]60.1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]61[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]39[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]32[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]14[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]12[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]42[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].253[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.21[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]0.55[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-season]MLB Totals[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]4.77[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]12[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]11[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]60.1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]61[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]39[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]32[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]14[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]12[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]42[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].253[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.21[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]0.55[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Max Scherzer [TABLE=class: stats_table, width: 600] [TH=class: dg-season, align: center] [/TH] [TH=class: dg-w, align: center]W[/TH] [TH=class: dg-l, align: center]L[/TH] [TH=class: dg-era, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-gs, align: center]GS[/TH] [TH=class: dg-cg, align: center]CG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-sho, align: center]SHO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-er, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hr, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hb, align: center]HB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-bb, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ibb, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-so, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-avg, align: center]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-whip, align: center]WHIP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]GO/AO[/TH] [TD=class: dg-season]SEASON[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]11[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]4.65[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]23[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]23[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]133.2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]142[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]73[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]69[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]21[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]5[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]48[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]168[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].273[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.42[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]0.72[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-season]MLB Totals[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]47[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]41[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]4.05[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]133[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]124[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]750.2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]737[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]376[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]338[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]95[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]34[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]258[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]766[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].258[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.33[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]0.92[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Twins Offense [TABLE=width: 600] [TD=class: dg-rank]RK[/TD] [TD=class: dg-name_display_last_init]Player[/TD] [TD=class: dg-team_abbrev]Team[/TD] [TD=class: dg-pos]Pos[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g sortable, align: right]G[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ab sortable, align: right]AB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r sortable, align: right]R[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h sortable, align: right]H[/TD] [TD=class: dg-d sortable, align: right]2B[/TD] [TD=class: dg-t sortable, align: right]3B[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr sortable, align: right]HR[/TD] [TD=class: dg-rbi sortable, align: right]RBI[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb sortable, align: right]BB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so sortable, align: right]SO[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sb sortable, align: right]SB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cs sortable, align: right]CS[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg sortable active, bgcolor: #DCDCDC, align: right]AVG▼[/TD] [TD=class: dg-obp sortable, align: right]OBP[/TD] [TD=class: dg-slg sortable, align: right]SLG[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ops sortable, align: right]OPS[/TD] 1 Mauer, J MIN C[TD=align: right]105[/TD] [TD=align: right]389[/TD] [TD=align: right]64[/TD] [TD=align: right]123[/TD] [TD=align: right]24[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]58[/TD] [TD=align: right]64[/TD] [TD=align: right]61[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].316[/TD] [TD=align: right].412[/TD] [TD=align: right].437[/TD] [TD=align: right].849[/TD] 2 Revere, B MIN RF[TD=align: right]79[/TD] [TD=align: right]331[/TD] [TD=align: right]43[/TD] [TD=align: right]104[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]25[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]28[/TD] [TD=align: right]28[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].314[/TD] [TD=align: right].345[/TD] [TD=align: right].369[/TD] [TD=align: right].713[/TD] 3 Doumit, R MIN C[TD=align: right]95[/TD] [TD=align: right]336[/TD] [TD=align: right]38[/TD] [TD=align: right]98[/TD] [TD=align: right]24[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]56[/TD] [TD=align: right]23[/TD] [TD=align: right]66[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].292[/TD] [TD=align: right].339[/TD] [TD=align: right].485[/TD] [TD=align: right].824[/TD] 4 Span, D MIN CF[TD=align: right]104[/TD] [TD=align: right]421[/TD] [TD=align: right]58[/TD] [TD=align: right]121[/TD] [TD=align: right]31[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]34[/TD] [TD=align: right]42[/TD] [TD=align: right]53[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].287[/TD] [TD=align: right].351[/TD] [TD=align: right].397[/TD] [TD=align: right].748[/TD] 5 Mastroianni, D MIN LF[TD=align: right]50[/TD] [TD=align: right]103[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]29[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]21[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].282[/TD] [TD=align: right].351[/TD] [TD=align: right].408[/TD] [TD=align: right].759[/TD] 6 Morneau, J MIN 1B[TD=align: right]91[/TD] [TD=align: right]354[/TD] [TD=align: right]47[/TD] [TD=align: right]98[/TD] [TD=align: right]22[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD=align: right]57[/TD] [TD=align: right]31[/TD] [TD=align: right]65[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].277[/TD] [TD=align: right].339[/TD] [TD=align: right].480[/TD] [TD=align: right].820[/TD] 7 Willingham, J MIN LF[TD=align: right]110[/TD] [TD=align: right]395[/TD] [TD=align: right]68[/TD] [TD=align: right]103[/TD] [TD=align: right]23[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]29[/TD] [TD=align: right]84[/TD] [TD=align: right]61[/TD] [TD=align: right]107[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].261[/TD] [TD=align: right].374[/TD] [TD=align: right].544[/TD] [TD=align: right].919[/TD] 8 Plouffe, T MIN RF[TD=align: right]74[/TD] [TD=align: right]259[/TD] [TD=align: right]44[/TD] [TD=align: right]67[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] [TD=align: right]38[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]57[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].259[/TD] [TD=align: right].330[/TD] [TD=align: right].525[/TD] [TD=align: right].855[/TD] 9 Carroll, J MIN SS[TD=align: right]103[/TD] [TD=align: right]352[/TD] [TD=align: right]43[/TD] [TD=align: right]86[/TD] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right]45[/TD] [TD=align: right]50[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].244[/TD] [TD=align: right].333[/TD] [TD=align: right].290[/TD] [TD=align: right].623[/TD] 10 Dozier, B MIN SS[TD=align: right]84[/TD] [TD=align: right]316[/TD] [TD=align: right]33[/TD] [TD=align: right]74[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]33[/TD] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD=align: right]58[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].234[/TD] [TD=align: right].271[/TD] [TD=align: right].332[/TD] [TD=align: right].603[/TD] 11 Casilla, A MIN 2B[TD=align: right]80[/TD] [TD=align: right]236[/TD] [TD=align: right]24[/TD] [TD=align: right]52[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]23[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]44[/TD] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].220[/TD] [TD=align: right].259[/TD] [TD=align: right].301[/TD] [TD=align: right].560[/TD] 12 Butera, D MIN C[TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right]82[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]18[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]18[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].220[/TD] [TD=align: right].273[/TD] [TD=align: right].317[/TD] [TD=align: right].590[/TD] 13 Komatsu, E MIN RF[TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].219[/TD] [TD=align: right].297[/TD] [TD=align: right].219[/TD] [TD=align: right].516[/TD] 14 Parmelee, C MIN 1B[TD=align: right]40[/TD] [TD=align: right]108[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]22[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]28[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].204[/TD] [TD=align: right].283[/TD] [TD=align: right].324[/TD] [TD=align: right].607[/TD] 15 Hughes, L MIN 2B[TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].200[/TD] [TD=align: right].182[/TD] [TD=align: right].200[/TD] [TD=align: right].382[/TD] 16 Valencia, D MIN 3B[TD=align: right]34[/TD] [TD=align: right]126[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]25[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]32[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].198[/TD] [TD=align: right].212[/TD] [TD=align: right].310[/TD] [TD=align: right].522[/TD] 17 Diamond, S MIN P[TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].143[/TD] [TD=align: right].143[/TD] [TD=align: right].143[/TD] [TD=align: right].286[/TD] 17 Thomas, C MIN RF[TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]28[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].143[/TD] [TD=align: 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[TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].000[/TD] [TD=align: right].000[/TD] [TD=align: right].000[/TD] [TD=align: right].000[/TD] 20 Nishioka, T MIN 2B[TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].000[/TD] [TD=align: right].071[/TD] [TD=align: right].000[/TD] [TD=align: right].071[/TD] [/TABLE] Tigers Offense [TABLE=width: 600] [TD=class: dg-rank]RK[/TD] [TD=class: dg-name_display_last_init]Player[/TD] [TD=class: dg-team_abbrev]Team[/TD] [TD=class: dg-pos]Pos[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g sortable, align: right]G[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ab sortable, align: right]AB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r sortable, align: right]R[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h sortable, align: right]H[/TD] [TD=class: dg-d sortable, align: right]2B[/TD] [TD=class: dg-t sortable, align: right]3B[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr sortable, align: right]HR[/TD] [TD=class: dg-rbi sortable, align: right]RBI[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb sortable, align: right]BB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so sortable, align: right]SO[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sb sortable, align: right]SB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cs sortable, align: right]CS[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg sortable active, bgcolor: #DCDCDC, align: right]AVG▼[/TD] [TD=class: dg-obp sortable, align: right]OBP[/TD] [TD=class: dg-slg sortable, align: right]SLG[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ops sortable, align: right]OPS[/TD] 1 Perez, H DET 2B[TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].500[/TD] [TD=align: right].500[/TD] [TD=align: right].500[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.000[/TD] 2 Dirks, A DET LF[TD=align: right]46[/TD] [TD=align: right]164[/TD] [TD=align: right]29[/TD] [TD=align: right]55[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]22[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]24[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].335[/TD] [TD=align: right].385[/TD] [TD=align: right].506[/TD] [TD=align: right].892[/TD] 3 Cabrera, M DET 3B[TD=align: right]115[/TD] [TD=align: right]454[/TD] [TD=align: right]75[/TD] [TD=align: right]147[/TD] [TD=align: right]30[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]29[/TD] [TD=align: right]98[/TD] [TD=align: right]47[/TD] [TD=align: right]64[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].324[/TD] [TD=align: right].387[/TD] [TD=align: right].581[/TD] [TD=align: right].969[/TD] 4 Jackson, A DET CF[TD=align: right]93[/TD] [TD=align: right]366[/TD] [TD=align: right]73[/TD] [TD=align: right]115[/TD] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]52[/TD] [TD=align: right]49[/TD] [TD=align: right]96[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].314[/TD] [TD=align: right].397[/TD] [TD=align: right].516[/TD] [TD=align: right].914[/TD] 5 Fielder, P DET 1B[TD=align: right]115[/TD] [TD=align: right]420[/TD] [TD=align: right]63[/TD] [TD=align: right]130[/TD] [TD=align: right]23[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]84[/TD] [TD=align: right]57[/TD] [TD=align: right]55[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].310[/TD] [TD=align: right].400[/TD] [TD=align: right].512[/TD] [TD=align: right].912[/TD] 6 Infante, O DET 2B[TD=align: right]18[/TD] [TD=align: right]65[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].308[/TD] [TD=align: right].319[/TD] [TD=align: right].492[/TD] [TD=align: right].811[/TD] 7 Holaday, B DET C[TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].300[/TD] [TD=align: right].300[/TD] [TD=align: right].400[/TD] [TD=align: right].700[/TD] 8 Laird, G DET C[TD=align: right]44[/TD] [TD=align: right]117[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]34[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].291[/TD] [TD=align: right].349[/TD] [TD=align: right].393[/TD] [TD=align: right].742[/TD] 9 Baker, J DET 1B[TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].286[/TD] [TD=align: right].286[/TD] [TD=align: right].429[/TD] [TD=align: right].714[/TD] 10 Berry, Q DET CF[TD=align: right]65[/TD] [TD=align: right]226[/TD] [TD=align: right]36[/TD] [TD=align: right]62[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]24[/TD] [TD=align: right]22[/TD] [TD=align: right]64[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].274[/TD] [TD=align: right].354[/TD] [TD=align: right].376[/TD] [TD=align: right].730[/TD] 11 Avila, A DET C[TD=align: right]83[/TD] [TD=align: right]268[/TD] [TD=align: right]35[/TD] [TD=align: right]71[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]35[/TD] [TD=align: right]45[/TD] [TD=align: right]72[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].265[/TD] [TD=align: right].368[/TD] [TD=align: right].414[/TD] [TD=align: right].782[/TD] 12 Young, D DET LF[TD=align: right]104[/TD] [TD=align: right]399[/TD] [TD=align: right]39[/TD] [TD=align: right]105[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]45[/TD] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD=align: right]73[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].263[/TD] [TD=align: right].295[/TD] [TD=align: right].396[/TD] [TD=align: right].691[/TD] 13 Peralta, J DET SS[TD=align: right]104[/TD] [TD=align: right]365[/TD] [TD=align: right]44[/TD] [TD=align: right]95[/TD] [TD=align: right]25[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]41[/TD] [TD=align: right]34[/TD] [TD=align: right]69[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].260[/TD] [TD=align: right].325[/TD] [TD=align: right].411[/TD] [TD=align: right].736[/TD] 14 Boesch, B DET LF[TD=align: right]108[/TD] [TD=align: right]400[/TD] [TD=align: right]47[/TD] [TD=align: right]100[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]48[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]80[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].250[/TD] [TD=align: right].286[/TD] [TD=align: right].388[/TD] [TD=align: right].674[/TD] 15 Santiago, R DET 2B[TD=align: right]83[/TD] [TD=align: right]211[/TD] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] [TD=align: right]45[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]37[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].213[/TD] [TD=align: right].295[/TD] [TD=align: right].284[/TD] [TD=align: right].580[/TD] 16 Worth, D DET 2B[TD=align: right]36[/TD] [TD=align: right]68[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]22[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].206[/TD] [TD=align: right].321[/TD] [TD=align: right].250[/TD] [TD=align: right].571[/TD] 17 Eldred, B DET DH[TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].188[/TD] [TD=align: right].235[/TD] [TD=align: right].375[/TD] [TD=align: right].610[/TD] 18 Kelly, D DET LF[TD=align: right]64[/TD] [TD=align: right]103[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]18[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]7[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].175[/TD] [TD=align: right].267[/TD] [TD=align: right].243[/TD] [TD=align: right].510[/TD] 19 Raburn, R DET 2B[TD=align: right]63[/TD] [TD=align: right]198[/TD] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD=align: right]34[/TD] [TD=align: right]14[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]52[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].172[/TD] [TD=align: right].225[/TD] [TD=align: right].258[/TD] [TD=align: right].483[/TD] 20 Santos, O DET C[TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].125[/TD] [TD=align: right].111[/TD] [TD=align: right].125[/TD] [TD=align: right].236[/TD] [/TABLE]
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What's to Blame for the Rotation?
Brock Beauchamp replied to YourHouseIsMyHouse's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
It's a combination of bad drafting, bad luck, and poor use of the FA market. You can't pin all the failures on one aspect of the organization. It took almost everybody to make this mess. -
And we've all seen how well the lack of groundballs and lack of K's has worked for old Blackie. If you can slot them into the rotation as a 4/5 and get 2-3 good/decent seasons out of them, that's great. The problem with Blackburn is that the team locked him up long-term when he should have been year-to-year with those peripherals. If the Twins used Nick in 2008/9 and then cast him off in 2010 or even 2011 after he collapsed, he would have been a great back-of-the-rotation guy for the team. I have no problems with a Hermsen-type on the team (though I expect nothing of him) if the organization isn't relying on them to be long-term solutions for the middle of the rotation. Those types of guys are great for back-end filler for a season or two and then you kick them to the curb after they (almost) inevitably collapse.
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Paul Ryan has some good ideas and he has some crazy, fringe ideas that go too far IMO. The thing is that with Mitt running the show, I don't see his influence making a lick of difference. Real change needs to happen in this country but it has to come from both sides. Defense spending is ridiculous. Our fingers are in too many foreign pies, supporting corrupt regimes. Our welfare system needs a real, smart overhaul that consists of more than "cut funding". Pay people to go back to work. Encourage productivity by giving productive people more money and then wean them off the system as they make more in future years. Tear apart the education system and teach REAL SCIENCE to kids. Subsidize certain areas of schooling and encourage more students to study math, science, and technology. On the other hand, extending tax cuts for the wealthy needs to stop and the term "job creators" needs to be called out for what it is (trickle down economics). The fact that Mitt is paying ~15% is unacceptable. Close the loopholes and simplify the code with a focus on strengthening the middle class. Both sides have their heads up their asses, as usual. We're embroiled in arguments about gay marriage and voter ID fraud that doesn't exist instead of talking about real problems with the country. But right now, most of that "real issue" deflection is coming from the right and the blatant poll-rigging they're trying to pull with Voter ID laws is so nauseating that I'm going to have to think long and hard before checking any boxes with an ® next to them this November. I used to slant pretty hard to the right and now I can't even stomach what most of them are saying... The problem isn't me shifting left, the problem is that the core of the GOP continues to slant right way beyond what should be considered normal or rational.
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Which doesn't have much to do with television markets. I was looking at this. http://www.deepintosports.com/2009/07/21/mlb-baseball-television-market-shars-tv-households-nielsen-dma-payroll/ And again while the Rangers certainly have a larger market, it's not like they have a market that's almost 3 times the size of the Twins' market. Given the deal FSNorth got, that's apparently how the Twins evaluated the situation. I'm not arguing that the Twins shouldn't have received more money in their television deal. I'm only arguing your point that Dallas is comparable to the Twin Cities, which it most certainly is not. In that list you provided, Dallas is just a few thousand households behind Boston, which has the most households once you factor out the multi-team markets of NY, LA, SF, and Chi. My statement still stands.
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I think that they need to pick 2 starters better than Diamond to be competitive. Doesn't have to be through Free Agency. They can pick them in a trade. Speaking about a certain potential free agent starting pitcher, do you remember our discussion about how Hannibal ante portas Sanchez was going to do in the AL? He is doing even worse that I thought... He is pitching tonight against the Twins btw, so we will see if that K/9 moves to De Vries territory Way too SSS to matter at this point. What has he made, three starts? The Twins probably aren't going to pick up two starters via trade... Not ones that help in 2013, anyway. If they spring for a Jackson-type in the offseason, trade Span for a pitcher, and hope Hendriks/Gibson are ready sooner rather than later, they have a shot at competing in 2013. Throw junk money at another question mark and the Twins are probably looking at another 2012 again. Talking about Sanchez... Wow, he's been a pretty lousy pitcher for awhile now. His June was brutal, his July pretty bad, and his starts with Detroit in August have been equally brutal. I wonder if there's something wrong with him.

