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    Twins Appear to Trend Towards Pool Savings on Day 2


    Jeremy Nygaard

    Before everyone freaks out, it was the right approach.

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    No prep players. No toolsy outfielders. Not a single catcher.

    It may not have been the Day 2 that everyone was hoping for, but it was the Day 2 the team needed after a near-perfect opening night.

    You can check out the Twins Draft Tracker for more information on each of the first ten picks. That

    will continue to be a work-in-progress as we get more information on the players. 

    But as far as the draft today went, it shouldn't have been too surprising. After having Brooks Lee fall into their lap at #8 and then Connor Prielipp tumble all the way to #48, there is no doubt the Twins worked even later into the night to try to figure out exactly how much money it was going to cost to sign those two players. And I'm *guessing* $7 million isn't going to be enough.

     

    Maybe it's $8 million. Maybe it's $9 million. I don't know. But I bet the Twins draft room has a pretty good idea. 

    So this afternoon, it wasn't a question of, "who is the best guy we can get in the fourth round for slot?" but instead a question of, "Who do we like the most that will sign for $100K?" and "Who is the guy we like the most that will sign for $40K?" 

    Now let's not confuse that strategy with punting picks or not taking baseball players. Mitch Garver was one of those players and he was great. Some of these guys were going to be Day 2 picks anyway. Some of these guys were probably favorites of the organization to be early Day 3 picks. 

    And a lot of them have something intriguing about them, whether it's that they've crushed pitching (in a small sample) or have hit for ridiculous averages or throw a knuckleball. 

    Player Round Slot
    Brooks Lee, SS, Cal Poly 1 $5,439,500
    Connor Prielipp, LHP, Alabama 2 $1,621,900
    Tanner Schobel, SS, Virginia Tech CB $1,001,500
    Andrew Morris, RHP, Texas Tech 4 $533,100
    Ben Ross, SS, Notre Dame Coll. 5 $398,200
    Jorel Ortega, SS, Tennessee 6 $301,000
    Kyle Jones, RHP, Toledo 7 $235,400
    Zebby Matthews, RHP, W. Carolina 8 $187,700
    Cory Lewis, RHP, UC-Santa Barbara 9 $164,000
    Dalton Shuffield, SS, Texas State 10 $153,700

    We'll be back tomorrow for 10 more rounds. Expect more college pitching and more guys that can hit.

    And probably a few guys that crouch behind the plate.

    Of course, if it works out that the Twins do have some money saved after today's picks, maybe they draft a guy or two with a little bit higher price tag tomorrow. (That is what the 11th round is for after all.)

    We'll see you in the Day 3 thread tomorrow!

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    6 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

    Who do you think they were calling during that time? Just random agents to confirm that the numbers the agents already told them are still accurate just in case Prielipp fell 20 picks more than they thought he would? That's not how it works. They collect all of that info before the draft. They run scenarios for all kinds of different possibilities of guys falling to different spots and who that means they can take later. 

    I literally just told you Jud Fabian did it last year. I gave you the numbers and everything. He turned down 2 million US dollars because he thought he should've gone higher and wanted 3 million US dollars. He had been picked #40 overall by the Boston Red Sox.

    2 agents,  Lee confirming they had a good number and Prielipps to verify he was still willing to be picked by the Twins and what number would be reasonable.  Calls happen during the draft.  They can't call a hundred players or agents but the can definitely call a handful.   

    21 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

    2 agents,  Lee confirming they had a good number and Prielipps to verify he was still willing to be picked by the Twins and what number would be reasonable.  Calls happen during the draft.  They can't call a hundred players or agents but the can definitely call a handful.   

    At what point do they decide to call Prielipp? After pick 30? 40? How do they decide he's the one they want to call? How do they decide to call him and the "handful" they choose to call, and not the other guys who will be available around pick 48? MLB's 48th ranked player went 20th overall. Every team has a vastly different board from the others. Each has different bonus pool situations. Were they taking into account Texas taking Rocker 3rd and targeting Porter later and not Prielipp? Did the Twins call Porter as well when he was falling? Or did he not make the cut? MLB's 65th ranked guy went 24th. Did they call him after pick 20 to see if he'd still be willing to be taken at 48 and thus wasted one of their handful of calls?

    Do you have inside information that calls happen during the draft or are you guessing because it makes sense to you? Not trying to be rude, honestly asking. If you have inside info I'd be fascinated to hear more.

    Just now, chpettit19 said:

    At what point do they decide to call Prielipp? After pick 30? 40? How do they decide he's the one they want to call? How do they decide to call him and the "handful" they choose to call, and not the other guys who will be available around pick 48? MLB's 48th ranked player went 20th overall. Every team has a vastly different board from the others. Each has different bonus pool situations. Were they taking into account Texas taking Rocker 3rd and targeting Porter later and not Prielipp? Did the Twins call Porter as well when he was falling? Or did he not make the cut? MLB's 65th ranked guy went 24th. Did they call him after pick 20 to see if he'd still be willing to be taken at 48 and thus wasted one of their handful of calls?

    Do you have inside information that calls happen during the draft or are you guessing because it makes sense to you? Not trying to be rude, honestly asking. If you have inside info I'd be fascinated to hear more.

    after pick 8  -  I agree with you I think they were planning to take him 8.  When Lee fell they probably reconfirmed numbers.  This would have first occurred after calling and confirming with Lee's agent.  Then they likely called Schobel agent after they selected Prielipp.  

    11 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

    after pick 8  -  I agree with you I think they were planning to take him 8.  When Lee fell they probably reconfirmed numbers.  This would have first occurred after calling and confirming with Lee's agent.  Then they likely called Schobel agent after they selected Prielipp.  

    Yeah, going to have to agree to disagree. I'm quite certain they didn't call Prielipp after pick 8 and say "hey, if you're still there in 40 picks are you still asking for $X?"

    On 7/19/2022 at 2:21 PM, chpettit19 said:

    Yeah, going to have to agree to disagree. I'm quite certain they didn't call Prielipp after pick 8 and say "hey, if you're still there in 40 picks are you still asking for $X?"

    They don’t say “if you are there 40 picks later, are you asking for this”

    they ask “what number do you need to get to, to get signed?”

    they say “3 million” for example and twins agree.

    then the players agent tells other teams that “$3m is the amount it will take for the player to sign” and if they don’t want to pay that, he falls the extra picks.  
     

    that is how Brock porter fell.  He agreed to a number and the rangers were only one that could get to the number because they saved on rocker up front. 

    3 hours ago, AZTwin said:

    They don’t say “if you are there 40 picks later, are you asking for this”

    they ask “what number do you need to get to, to get signed?”

    they say “3 million” for example and twins agree.

    then the players agent tells other teams that “$3m is the amount it will take for the player to sign” and if they don’t want to pay that, he falls the extra picks.  
     

    that is how Brock porter fell.  He agreed to a number and the rangers were only one that could get to the number because they saved on rocker up front. 

    The debate that was happening there was the timing of gathering those price tags, not that the conversations happened or how they went. My point was that they weren't calling Prielipp during the draft to ask his number, they already had it.




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