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    The Brian Dozier Trade That Almost Was


    Nick Nelson

    Sometimes, the best trades are the ones you don't make.

    That old sports adage certainly seems to apply with regards to the first big test Derek Falvey and Thad Levine faced as heads of the reconstructed Twins front office.

    A look back at their savvy stubbornness, and how it paid off:

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    In our blueprint for last year's Offseason Handbook, we suggested trading Brian Dozier to the Dodgers in exchange for young right-hander Jose De Leon and additional prospects.

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    The Twins, it turned out, were of a similar mind. As soon as the postseason ended, reports quickly arose that they were engaging the Dodgers over Dozier, with De Leon mentioned as a central piece. Based on media coverage, negotiations over the rest of the package turned into an extended saga, with little agreement over what those additional prospects might look like.

    For Levine, it was a high-stakes game of chicken. The longtime right-hand man of Jon Daniels in Texas, Levine was still arranging his office after landing his first gig as a GM, and here he was, going toe-to-toe with one of the game's most heralded execs in Andrew Friedman.

    And the player he was discussing giving up? Only the most popular and valuable one on the roster – one of the few marketable commodities on a club that just reached an all-time low. No pressure or anything.

    It would've been irresponsible not to explore the possibility. Dozier was coming off a likely career year and approaching the end of his contract. The Twins were rebuilding. De Leon was a hot prospect on the rise – the premier strikeout artist in all of the minors, aligning with a drastic need in Minnesota's system.

    But by all accounts, Levine took a hardline stance, refusing to accept anything less than a major haul in addition to De Leon. The thinking, I imagine, was that pitching prospects (especially those with recent injury history and unproven workload thresholds like JDL) are fickle assets, and you can't really afford to place all your chips on a single one.

    Good call. The Dodgers ultimately ran out of patience with the Twins and made a pivot, shipping De Leon to Tampa Bay straight-up in exchange for Logan Forsythe.

    I'm not sure anyone's regretting the deal at this point, but it certainly wasn't a slam dunk for either side.

    Forsythe took a huge step back from his solid 2016 campaign, hitting 14 fewer home runs with a 100-point drop in OPS. The Dodgers still won 104 games and are still heading to the big show but when you're in go-for-it mode, there's only one ultimate goal. I wonder if they'll wish they had the dangerous Dozier instead of Forsythe in the World Series, and next year.

    While the Dodgers didn't receive the major impact they initially sought, they're probably satisfied with the price they ended up paying. De Leon, sure enough, saw his first season in Tampa's organization ravaged by injuries, limiting him to 41 total innings and just one appearance for the Rays. It was more or less a lost year, casting further doubt on durability going forward.

    How would that have looked as the headlining return for Dozier, while he was powering Los Angeles to an incredible season?

    We'll probably never know what the best package Levine turned down was. But there were rumblings that the Twins were pushing for the likes of Cody Bellinger and Walker Buehler. If so, it demonstrates astute evaluative chops from the GM and his staff.

    As we now know, Bellinger went on to have one of the great rookie campaigns in MLB history this year, slugging 39 home runs in 130 games, while Buehler returned from his Tommy John layoff in dominant fashion and even made a late-season debut for the Dodgers.

    Getting one of those prospects would have changed the conversation. But if indeed the offer was never more than De Leon plus scraps, then Minnesota pretty clearly made the right choice. Dozier stuck around and was a driving force in the Twins' reinvigorating turnaround, earning our 2017 team MVP honor.

    Coming off yet another strong campaign, and still a year from free agency, Dozier still carries significant trade value if the Twins choose to go that route, though that seems unlikely with the sudden flip to contention mode.

    For Levine and Falvey, stubbornness paid off. I hope they'll exercise the same keen judgment and high standards as the trade talks heat up once again in the coming weeks.

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    If it results in a WS ring, yes I'm more than ok with it.
    Winning a championship is the ONLY thing that defines success, IMO.
    There isn't much difference between 2nd place and 30th place to me, they both finished the season losers.
    I get many disagree, that's fine.

     

    Is the man/woman who finished second in his/her class at Harvard making five million dollars a year a loser because someone finished higher than him/her or because there are athletes that make 5X that amount.  Sorry, I don’t find the “everyone who did not finish 1st is a loser” to be very enlightened.  How does one look at their own life with this type of outlook and not be disappointed?

     

    The Championship or bust philosophy is one that is certain to bring disappointment nearly every year.  I refuse to approach something that is supposed to be entertaining that way.  I would much prefer to have a very good product to watch most years than to have 20 years of futility followed by one world series win and back to mediocrity or worse.

     

    Everyone is welcome to their own viewpoint.  I just prefer to appreciate great teams or anything else great even if they are not the very best.

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    I guess I'm not as enamored with idea of one more year of Dozier or having to pay significant money to extend him. 

     

    Not more enamored with another year of Dozier than what? Having a perennially injured AAA pitcher? That's more enamoring to you? Because from all of the reports and "insider" accounts we heard, that was the alternative to Dozier. You may wish otherwise, but from what we know, that's what the offer was.

     

    Almost all of their top end pitching prospects have dealt with injury; especially last season. That is part of the deal with pitching. You must be very concerned given the injury history of the youth and the look of the  current group...

     

    Well yeah, I am concerned about a lot of their young bullpen arms. I guess I was trying to point out that your  Chargois' future in the bullpen in comes off as a disingenuous justification of a Dozier-JDL trade that clearly would not have been in the Twins' favor.

     

    Is the man/woman who finished second in his/her class at Harvard making five million dollars a year a loser because someone finished higher than him/her or because there are athletes that make 5X that amount.  Sorry, I don’t find the “everyone who did not finish 1st is a loser” to be very enlightened.  How does one look at their own life with this type of outlook and not be disappointed?

     

    The Championship or bust philosophy is one that is certain to bring disappointment nearly every year.  I refuse to approach something that is supposed to be entertaining that way.  I would much prefer to have a very good product to watch most years than to have 20 years of futility followed by one world series win and back to mediocrity or worse.

     

    Everyone is welcome to their own viewpoint.  I just prefer to appreciate great teams or anything else great even if they are not the very best.

    Unfortunately, the nature of sports where the ultimate goal is to win a championship brings disappointment more often than not. I love those '00s teams, but it's not too much of a stretch to call those seasons failures after only winning one playoff series. Sure, we had great moments and memories that we still appreciate, but they failed to accomplish their one main task.

     

    Mod note: seeing that not much new is being posted by this point in time, regarding the pros and cons of the original thread topic, I am closing it. The exchanges were getting overly personal and testy.

     

    Anyone feeling shortchanged on the lack of additional opportunity for discussion, feel free to PM me for additional insights. :)




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