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    Intro to Twins Payroll 2025: Twins Will Need to Increase Payroll (or Dump More Core Players)


    John  Bonnes

    Ownership’s reassurance that the Twins won’t further cut payroll in 2025 aren’t at all reassuring. Even with free agents like Max Kepler and Carlos Santana departing, Twins Daily estimates the Twins' payroll will need to increase by as much as $10 million just to keep the core of their team intact.

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    The dominant story of the Twins' 2023-24 offseason (and 2024 season) was ownership’s decision to slash approximately $30 million from the 2023 payroll. Doing so meant trading away Jorge Polanco, shopping for bargain-level relievers, and essentially sitting out the trade deadline. The worst fears of fans and Twins employees about the ramifications of that decrease--roughly 20 percent--came to fruition when a six-week swoon resulted in the Twins missing the postseason by a handful of games.

    But even worse news awaits the team in 2025, as significant built-in raises to several key players will require the team to raise payroll if they want to keep the core of this 82-win team intact. Even with free-agent departures like Max Kepler (who made $10 million in 2024), Carlos Santana ($5.25 million), Kyle Farmer ($6.3 million), Anthony DeSclafani ($4 million, for the Twins; the rest of his eight-figure salary was paid by the Giants and Mariners), and Caleb Thielbar ($3.225 million), the Twins will have even less money to spend than last offseason, unless there is a significant increase in payroll from ownership.

    That’s because the payroll will rise organically, due to built-in raises for players under contract and those who get raises via MLB’s arbitration process. For instance, the Twins have a contract with Pablo López that will start paying him $21.5 million annually in 2025, up from $8 million in 2024. Similarly, since Chris Paddack was still returning from Tommy John surgery, he was only paid $2.5 million this year. But he’s under contract for $7.5 million next year.

    The bigger issue is MLB’s arbitration process, which gives significant raises to players as they get closer to free agency. The Twins have over half a dozen key players who will get significant raises as a result of this process--and still be a bargain at their new salaries. They include third baseman Royce Lewis, catcher Ryan Jeffers, outfielder Trevor Larnach, starting pitchers Joe Ryan and Bailey Ober, and relievers Jhoan Durán and Griffin Jax. None of these players will receive an enormous raise, but increases of even $1-4 million for each mean any savings of departing free agents are quickly consumed.

    Above is a back-of-the-napkin analysis of the 2025 Twins payroll, including reported contract values and estimated arbitration awards. It is a starting point for the offseason; it shows what the Twins roster might look like if the 2025 season started today, absent their outgoing free agents. It shows a 26-man payroll of approximately $132 million, compared to a 26-man payroll of approximately $122 million for 2024. 

    You may cringe a little as you review the names on the list, but remember, this is not meant to be a roster projection. It's a payroll projection. For instance, I don’t think the Twins will be comfortable with Edouard Julien as their designated hitter. But he’s the in-house option right now, and to replace him, they’ll need to pay someone quite a bit more than the roughly $800,000 that Julien would make. 

    Furthermore, subtracting salaries from this payroll projection isn’t necessarily easy. Christian Vázquez may not be worth $10 million as a backup catcher. However, MLB contracts are guaranteed, so the Twins need to find another team to pay him some substantial portion of that to remove his salary from this list. Ditto Paddack and his $7.5 million. You may want to trade Carlos Correa to save $36 million, but Correa has a no-trade clause in his contract. He’s not going anywhere. The same goes for Byron Buxton and his $15 million salary. 

    Looking closer at the list, you'll soon find that any payroll cuts start hurting. Can Ryan or Ober and their approximate $4 million 2025 salaries be traded away, to be replaced with David Festa or Zebby Matthews and the $800,000 or less that they’d make? Sure, and the Twins could get a valuable player or prospect package in return. But will that help or hurt the 2025 team’s chances of making the postseason? Flipping the possibilities, can we really picture the front office trading away a prospect of meaningful value in a bundle with Vázquez or Paddack for a marginal return, just to clear money they might spend elsewhere? They've never shown an appetite for that kind of move before, even under similar pressures.

    So, ownership's reassurance that payroll won’t be cut further should not be viewed as reassuring. A static payroll will still require Derek Falvey and the Twins front office to ask and answer some tough questions this offseason. If payroll doesn’t increase, additional cuts will likely be necessary just to maintain most of the team's core. If the front office wants to improve or add players, they’ll need to be especially creative--or talk the Pohlads into restoring their investment in the team to the modest but acceptable standard they set a few years ago.


    What would you do if you were in Falvey's shoes? How much more money would the Pohlads need to put back into the pot to ease these pressures? Let your voice be heard in the comments.

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    On 10/1/2024 at 3:49 PM, DJL44 said:

    I think they could get an equally effective reliever who makes half as much in return for Paddack. That frees up enough cash to bring back Carlos Santana.

    Paddack would be taking a MiLB deal if he was a free agent. Why would any team give up anything of value for him without the Twins eating a ton of salary?

    I think people believe Paddack was good, but he never was. Doesn't strike many guys out, doesn't generally issue a lot of free passes, but gives up a ton of hits. He's like a less talented version of Kyle Gibson, but if Gibson was hurt 1/2 the year or more every year.

    36 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

    Paddack would be taking a MiLB deal if he was a free agent. Why would any team give up anything of value for him without the Twins eating a ton of salary?

    Every year at least a dozen starters worse than Paddack end up with a spot on an opening day roster.

    13 hours ago, DJL44 said:

    Every year at least a dozen starters worse than Paddack end up with a spot on an opening day roster.

    I don't disagree with you there, but mostly they just wind up there because a team got stuck with them or those starters signed MiLB contracts with invites.

    Alex Wood - I suppose a good comp for Paddack to support your position would be Alex Wood (pun recognized while typing, I now claim it was intended), who the Athletics signed to a 1 year $8.5MM deal.
    Cal Quantrill - The Rockies locked down Cal Quantrill for 1 year $6.5MM, but he was excellent in 2021-2022 before his terrible 2023.
    Spencer Turnbull is a pretty fair comp IMHO, signed with the Phillies for $2MM.

    A terrible team who has trouble recruiting / signing pitching might be interested in Paddack (Rockies/Athletics), I suppose, but that's not a lot of market. If Paddack is going to have much market other than the Abyssal Plains, the Twins are going to need to eat contract.

    I don't play with money I do not have nor a real idea who will or how it will be spent or not spent but dumping Lee, Lewis, Martin, Julien and Jeffers will probably result in a better team, as they were supposed to explode on the diamond like a Silver Salute but went off barely as Lady Fingers.

    22 minutes ago, RpR said:

    I don't play with money I have nor real idea who will or how it will be spent or not spent but dumping Lee, Lewis, Martin, Julien and Jeffers will probably result in a better team, as they were supposed to explode on the diamond like a Silver Salute but went off barely as Lady Fingers.

    As a whole, the players listed haven’t taken off, but OTOH all are relatively young and only Jeffers has reached 1000 plate appearances. 
     

    Lewis and Jeffers both had extended periods when they looked like All-Stars and Lewis looked like a Top 20 position player. 
     

    Giving up on players when their value is down is a recipe for disaster for a mid-market team. I expect most of these players will be better in 2025, and if they aren’t, the Twins won’t be relevant. 

    24 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

    As a whole, the players listed haven’t taken off, but OTOH all are relatively young and only Jeffers has reached 1000 plate appearances. 
     

    Lewis and Jeffers both had extended periods when they looked like All-Stars and Lewis looked like a Top 20 position player. 
     

    Giving up on players when their value is down is a recipe for disaster for a mid-market team. I expect most of these players will be better in 2025, and if they aren’t, the Twins won’t be relevant. 

    Lewis and Jeffers had BRIEF periods of success, and LONG periods of, why are they not still in AAA.

    Jeffers, Lee and Lewis fielding numbers in AA/AAA were poor, they still are.

    Kyle Garlic went from GOOD to OK to ARHH; Gordon went from Blech to WOW to BLECH. Both are now GONE, for  their bats and their fielding showed it was probably Never going to get any better.

    Gordon is now in Miami AAA; Garlick was named Player of the Week once this year, but is still in AAA.

    Martin right now looks a lot like Gordon for talent.

    The gents I listed have not shown their future is not in AAA or some where else.

    27 minutes ago, RpR said:

    Lewis and Jeffers had BRIEF periods of success, and LONG periods of, why are they not still in AAA.

    Jeffers, Lee and Lewis fielding numbers in AA/AAA were poor, they still are.

    Kyle Garlic went from GOOD to OK to ARHH; Gordon went from Blech to WOW to BLECH. Both are now GONE, for  their bats and their fielding showed it was probably Never going to get any better.

    Gordon is now in Miami AAA; Garlick was named Player of the Week once this year, but is still in AAA.

    Martin right now looks a lot like Gordon for talent.

    The gents I listed have not shown their future is not in AAA or some where else.

    Disagree totally with your characterization that Jeffers and Lewis had brief periods of success. Jeffers was excellent for the second half of 2023 and even better for the first six weeks or so of 2024, a stretch of about 100 games started. Lewis' first 150-160 games were also excellent. I don't consider that to be a brief period of time. 

    Why you bring up Gordon and Garlick in comparing them to current Twins young players is a mystery to me, particularly Garlick, who was not a young player when acquired and absolutely no one ever saw him as more than a role player for a competitive team. IMHO Gordon was never particularly highly regarded by the current field staff or front office and on balance I think they were right.

    Finally, minor league fielding statistics are pretty close to meaningless. While I concur that none of the players you have singled out were good on defense in 2024, the guys with range and arms can develop into above-average defenders




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