3 Pitching Prospects Who Can Impact the 2025 Twins

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On 10/27/2024 at 11:47 AM, terrydactyls said:

A couple minutes of research and I found the following pitchers that didn't pitch in AA or AAA ball (or even A ball for some):  Jim Abbott, Catfish Hunter, Mike Morgan, Garrett Crochet, Burt Hooten, and Mike Leake.  I could have added Eddie Bane but choose not to.  And if you want to add position players, how about Dave Winfield, Pete Incavglia, Bob Horner, and John Olerud?  I'm thinking that your statement might be incorrect.

I get that you were responding to bean's comment below. That said, your examples are guys who made a direct jump to the Majors because they were signed or drafted as potential future stars. And at least in some cases, a direct jump was a factor in getting the player signed. And with pitchers, rushed promation quite often resulted in regression or arm surgery, if not a bust.

I wish I could find a list on pitchers that made the jump from High A to the majors. My worry about Prielipp would be his TJ history and only 30 innings pitched over two seasons.

Crochet and Leake are the only two pitchers this century on the list. Leake did well. Crochet pitched six scoreless innings in September of '20 and followed it up with a solid ´21. But he had TJ surgery and missed the ´22 season and due to stints on the DL, just 12 innings in ´23. He was an All-Star this past season, 32 starts, 146 innings. Best guess is that he will succeed with longer starts next season, but TJ is an issue. Xavier Nady was the only position player to make the list. He registered one at batthen spent the next two seasons in the minors. Two TJ surgeries in Nady´s history.

Ariel Prieto "Prieto never managed to maintain any sustained success during his Oakland tenure because of injuries and ineffectiveness, thus becoming arguably the A’s biggest Draft regret."

 Darren Dreifort "The following spring, Dreifort made the Dodgers as a reliever at 21 years old, though he did not perform well with a 6.21 ERA over 27 games (29 innings). Injuries cost him all of the ’95 season and would plague the hard-throwing righty throughout his career."

Jim Abbott - ROY and no major injuries

Mike Morgan - Three starts and to the minors. "Turns out, rushing Morgan to the Majors didn’t work well. After a disappointing 1980 season spent entirely at Triple-A, the A’s shipped him to the Yankees, beginning a chain of trades and signings that turned Morgan into one of baseball’s most famous journeymen."

Tim Conroy - "The A’s advanced Conroy and Morgan straight to the Majors partly because after winning three straight titles from 1972-74, the team was on a downturn in the late ’70s and Finley wanted to drum up interest in short order.

It backfired in Conroy’s case, too, as the Pennsylvania prepster made two shaky starts in June 1978 but then didn’t make it back to Oakland again until ’82."

Brian Milner, C - "Despite going 4-for-9 in two games that June, Milner was sent down to the Rookie League level for the remainder of ’78. Alas, he never returned to The Show -- or even made it above Double-A again -- because of injuries and a lack of production."

 Denny Walling, INF/OF - "He played in just six games that September (one start) and collected his first big-league knock...Walling spent almost all of '76 at Double-A Chattanooga before Oakland called him up for only three games at the very end of the season." 43 MLB PAs in his first three seasons.

Dick Ruthven - Very solid career. He missed all but the final two months of his third season but made the All-Star team the following year.

David Clyde - "The rest of Clyde’s career became a cautionary tale of pushing a young sensation too fast. Rather than let Clyde develop in the Minors in ’74, the Rangers once again stuck with him, and after a brief hot start, he failed to earn a single win after mid-May. He hurt his shoulder in ’75 and spent the year in Double-A, other than one September start with the Rangers. Clyde’s following season was wrecked by shoulder surgery, and he continued to battle shoulder problems through the end of his career in 1981 -- at age 26."

Eddie Bane - "Bane was solid in three of his first four starts that summer, before he transitioned to a relief role and struggled the rest of the way. He then spent all of ’74 at Triple-A before making it back to Minnesota at the tail end of the ensuing season. Arm trouble ultimately hampered Bane, who retired at 28 in ’80 after spending his final years in the Minors and finished his MLB career with only seven wins in 44 career games."  I witnessed his first start. July 4th vs KC. The Twins were just a game out of first place. Attendence 45,890. 7 innings, 3 hits, 1 run. Twins scored three in the 8th. Ray Corbin blew the save, giving up four runs in the ninth.

Pete Broberg  - 125 and 176 innings, respectively, in his first two seasons. A negative career WAR.    "While Broberg did throw a career-high 220 1/3 innings in his first year in Milwaukee, his stuff and strikeout rate (4.1 K/9) declined, and his last big league action came in ’78 at 28 years old. He finished with a 41-71 mark and a 4.56 ERA over 963 frames."

Burt Hooton- An outstanding career but not without early yips. ""The Cubs pushed the right-hander to The Show at 21, inside of two weeks after he was drafted June 8. After a shaky debut, Hooton was sent to Triple-A, where he excelled and earned a late-season callup..."

 Rob Ellis, 3B/OF - "Hegot a hit in his first at-bat and went 9-for-29 (.310) in his first 10 games with Milwaukee, but it quickly went south. Ellis ended his initial taste of the Majors with a .198/.278/.216 line in 36 games (129 plate appearances). Turns out, the 36 games he played that first year would wind up being more than half of his career total (64) in MLB, as Ellis didn’t make it back to the Brewers until a 22-game stint in ’74 and another six games in ’75. While his baseball career continued with a number of seasons in Triple-A and finished in ’82 with a turn in the Mexican League, Ellis never again reached The Show, with his final game at the highest level coming at the age of 24."

Steve Dunning - "As a 21-year-old, he won his first start with five innings of two-run ball. Dunning continued to pitch fairly well through his first eight starts, with a 4.25 ERA in 48 2/3 innings, but his performance dipped down the stretch (5.72 ERA in his final 11 outings).... His last big league game came in ’77 at age 28, and he retired with a 23-41 record and a 4.56 ERA in barely more than 600 career big league innings."

 Mike Adamson - "Adamson was still 19 years old when he shot straight to The Show, with his first appearance coming in a two-inning relief stint. After a pair of starts in his next two outings that July, Adamson went to Triple-A, where he notched a 1.95 ERA in 60 innings (nine starts). He began ’68 at Triple-A before earning a midseason callup, a two-start cameo that did not go well. While Adamson began the next year with the O’s, he only managed six relief appearances before going back down to Rochester for the rest of the year. Those outings in ’69 would turn out to be Adamson’s last time in the big leagues, and his MLB career was over by age 21 with a 7.46 ERA in 11 games -- and zero wins."

 

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On September 18, 2020, Crochet became the first player from the 2020 MLB Draft class to be promoted to the major leagues. He is the 22nd player to go straight from the draft to the majors without playing in the minor leagues, and the first since Mike Leake in 2010 and was the first player to be promoted in their draft year since Brandon Finnegan in 2014.

On 10/26/2024 at 3:44 PM, bean5302 said:

"I don't know why the writers of this site create fringe narratives, and then push those narratives until they become accepted as fact or likely to happen scenarios.

Guys don't go from A+ to MLB directly."

 

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Oh, lordy, Raya isn't close to Cory Lewis in terms proximity to the Twins or simply in terms of just being good.  What is it about Raya that has anybody excited?  Yeah, he's on the 40 now, but it's been this way for a while.  If you put Morris ahead of him, you have to put Lewis ahead of him...neither is on the 40.  Both are much further along and deserving of top 5 or 6 Twins prospect rankings.  Raya may have moved up a couple of spots from around 20 with his last couple of outings, but he's not close.  smh