Former Twins Cooperstown Case: David Ortiz

[Nine of twelve]

I want to comment on a matter that has been alluded to in only one post so far but will certainly be part of the decision for many HOF voters. Some think that DH's do not belong in the HOF because they are not "complete" players. Keep in mind the four parts of baseball are pitching, batting, fielding, and baserunning. If the HOF is only for players who were elite complete players there would only be one member: Babe Ruth.

[Nine of twelve]

On 11/23/2021 at 8:39 PM, sorney said:

Between steroids, greenies, spit balls, scuffing the ball, corked bats, etc....they are all forms of "cheating".  There are a plenty of players in the Hall for all of those but steroids.  I think the steroids crew absolutely deserves to be in the Hall....unless we are going to kick out all the HOF'ers who did other forms of "cheating"

I think this is a valid point on the surface, but pretty much every player in the history of the major leagues has broken a rule at some point in his career. Where should the line should be drawn?

[sorney]

1 hour ago, Nine of twelve said:

I think this is a valid point on the surface, but pretty much every player in the history of the major leagues has broken a rule at some point in his career. Where should the line should be drawn?

Oh, I guess I should have stated, yeah, I think they all should be in.....because of the very reason you stated.