righty8383 Verified Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 If that happens, or people even thought it was possible, he'd be a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. But it's just not going to. I would agree with most of what MNfan predicted except for the HR's. Part of the reason Rosario hit a bunch of HR's at Etown was because of the short RF. Down the line it is just 320 ft with an 8 ft wall. From what I've heard, a lot of his HR's were line drives that barely cleared the wall. In other words they would have been doubles or outs at other parks like Hammond stadium or New Britain stadium.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Rosario can run, stirkes out less. Arcia is a slower runner, strikes out more. Power numbers are similar. On-base numbers are similar. Both went nuts at ELZ, both will probably be above-average major league hitters. But Rosario has more upside with his speed and contact. All true, but you're comparing a guy who has mashed AA hitting to a guy who hasn't made it out of low A and they're virtually the same age. There's a good chance we see Rosario's K total start rising as he faces good breaking pitches for the first time. And you don't need speed when you hit the ball harder and farther. Arcia does that.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Thank you everyone...Some very interesting perspectives above. I can see how Sano's larger body size means more HR's in most peoples minds. And it sure showed by Sano hitting all those HR's last season while Rosario hit a bunch of doubles. Rosario could have come close to 20 HR's last year and surely would have totaled over 40 doubles, IF he had not been struck in the face with a baseball. So, I guess we can expect Rosario to be a doubles hitter moving forward. How bout a 3-hole hitter in Minnesota? Or would Arcia fit better in the 3, and Rosario hit 2nd? Sano is the 4-batter, right?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 So, I guess we can expect Rosario to be a doubles hitter moving forward. How bout a 3-hole hitter in Minnesota? Or would Arcia fit better in the 3, and Rosario hit 2nd? Sano is the 4-batter, right? In a perfect world, we'd see a lineup of Hicks/Rosario/Arcia/Sano. Of course, the team will still have Joe Mauer at that point.
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 In a perfect world, we'd see a lineup of Hicks/Rosario/Arcia/Sano. Of course, the team will still have Joe Mauer at that point. yeah, and isn't THAT horrible... :-)
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 In a perfect world, we'd see a lineup of Hicks/Rosario/Arcia/Sano. Of course, the team will still have Joe Mauer at that point. Dang, thats a pretty projectable group. All in MN by 2015? Mauer hits 5 with these guys? or Arcia?
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 yeah, and isn't THAT horrible... :-) the best problem they'll have had in years
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Dang, thats a pretty projectable group. All in MN by 2015? Mauer hits 5 with these guys? or Arcia? Probably just bump Arcia to 4th and Sano to 5th
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Probably just bump Arcia to 4th and Sano to 5th How bout Mauer 3, Sano 4, Arcia 5
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 How bout Mauer 3, Sano 4, Arcia 5 For me, I'd go Mauer, Arcia, Sano. I think Arcia is a better OVERALL hitter (combination of Power, OBP and BA) than Sano, whereas Sano is more of a power guy. I like mostly power guys in the 5 spot. It's just a matter of preference...don't think Gardy could go wrong either way.
Steve Lein Twins Daily Contributor Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 So, I guess we can expect Rosario to be a doubles hitter moving forward. How bout a 3-hole hitter in Minnesota? Or would Arcia fit better in the 3, and Rosario hit 2nd? Sano is the 4-batter, right? Not sure he's quite a "3-hole" hitter either, at least not a typical one. He probably projects to have a good batting average, OK on-base percentage relative to his average (he hasn't shown much discipline yet), and a lot of doubles. I'd probably peg him in the 2-hole with his speed. I'd love to see a 2015 lineup of with the first six being: Hicks, Rosario, Mauer, Sano, Morneau, Arcia.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 That would be a very well protected front 6....Arcia is going to be awesome in Minnesota. Just need the opportunity.
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I didn't include Morny, cause I think he'll be well gone by 2015...
Steve Lein Twins Daily Contributor Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Don't disagree, but I'm a big Morneau hopeful... Before the injuries, he was the most important hitter in the Twins lineup, and they've been suffering ever since he hasn't been able to perform at those same levels. I would much prefer to see him rebound to .300/.380/.520-ish levels and earn another contract with the Twins instead of him being gone (if he's gone, it likely means he doesn't). And I think the way the Twins have handled him, that they're thinking the same way (e.g.: haven't traded him yet).
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I didn't include Morny, cause I think he'll be well gone by 2015... I agree. There are too many 1B prospects in this ORG. Parmalee, Colabello, Vargas, maybe even Sano and Harrison end up at 1B. As much as I root for Morneau, I can't see him sticking around past the trade deadline. I think Terry Ryan is planning this, and he is praying that Morneau increases his own trade value before the deadline. There are just too many guys that can play 1B if Morneau gets dealt, that it mirrors the embarrassment of CF's we had before the trading of Span/Revere. Stupid to pay him so much if a cheaper replacement can produce similar numbers.
mnfanforlife Provisional Member Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 And Arcia will be the long-term solution in RF....NOT Parmelee....just saying....Morneau or Parmelee does not fit into this equation. I didn't even mention the possibility of Joe Mauer becoming a full-time 1B with the Twins. That might happen sooner than later.
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