1. And I said it only goes to show how out of touch the democrats are. They are playing a stupid game of chicken with each other right now and Biden has fallen prey to it. Who can go the furthest left? Biden doesn't want to appear to be too moderate. Once again, as it has been discussed for months in this forum now, the democrats won't win this way. They need a more moderate candidate. You don't have to believe that if you don't want to, but when reparations and stuff like the Hyde Amendment become front and center it's a whole lot of white noise. 2. Traditional moral values would not include embrace the federal government paying for abortions that aren't the result of rape. Seems to me as though sex and sexual proclivities should be free, open, unrestricted and even celebrated by the far left. That has nothing to do with any kind of traditional morality I ain't even mad at you, Ben. It's just 9 times out of 10 your opinions in this forum don't make any sense to me.