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So you're saying it IS easy to find relievers!

I'm not looking for rookies to get extra leash, just the same leash. There is something to be learned by both player and manager from allowing a guy to work through situations. I wish that Molitor would allow that process to happen more often. I'll reiterate that the leash on Enns was too short for my preference, but I understand the why so I'm not making a big deal of it. I'm not questioning that at all.

I agree, but with what he did to Meyer there is only one direction to go at that point.

I don't disagree with any of this. I was simply asking how a determination on his viability as a MLB pitcher could be made so quickly. That is all. Nothing more, nothing less. I didn't even question the hook in my initial post, nor am I questioning it now. I'm far from convinced he'll be any good, but I can't make that determination after 50 pitches. My question didn't even really have anything to do with the game. How we got to this line of thinking, I have no idea. I would have preferred to see what the kid had in that jam, but I understand why he was pulled and I'm not grumbling at all about it. Strategy-wise, it was probably the right move in order to win the game.

Please reread my initial post and the post I was quoting. I never said anything about Molitor. Another poster said "Enns isn't good". That's what I'm questioning. Not Molitor.

Where did I insinuate that? I simply asked how another poster could conclude that "Enns isn't good" after only 50 pitches. I didn't agree with the quick hook, but I at least understand the logic. I just don't see how anyone can determine the viability of a player after such a small sample. That is what I was questioning.

How do we know this after 50 pitches? I don't care if he threw 50 perfectly placed strikes and struck out everyone he faced in 50 pitches, you can't tell anything from that small of a sample. That's not fair or reasonable. You may be right in the end, but one outing is hardly a way to determine the viability of an MLB starter.

You're right. I'm sure there's not any added nerves in his Major league debut. That's not fair or reasonable. You can't determine much from this outing alone, just as you couldn't if it were Sledgers or hurlbut. Just as you couldn't if he tossed a perfect game. You may be right in the end, but it's still too early to determine anything.

So 50 pitches is enough to determine the viability of a MLB pitcher now?

Gotta let these guys work through things and figure it out. If they're worth anything, they'll figure it out.

First MLB hit before he gets his first MLB strikeout.

It's amazing how good this lineup can be when the bottom of the order is producing.

Polanco again!

Heyyyyyyyyy! Sorry, that's my best Fonz impression.

Polanco has busted out of his slump in fantastic fashion.

This is my experience as well. NFL diehards take the fun out of trash talking. It goes past the point of friendly, good natured smack talk to just flat out mean and obnoxious. It takes the fun right out of it.

Good point. By no means are my comments intended to be a statement on race. An abuser is an abuser, a rapist a rapist, etc. Race has nothing to do with that.

Exactly. I dislike all of the showmanship, the dancing and celebrations that occur after basically every play but guys like AP and the like just disgust me. I realize that there are good guys in the league, but the bad ones stand out. When a league decides that a deflated football warrants a harsher punishment than assault, then I have no interest in supporting such an organization.

That's another reason I can't keep watching. I can't support those types of people - the abusers, rapists, etc. I haven't watched an NBA game since Jordan retired from the Bulls for the last time. Hockey players, for all of their mullets and missing teeth, are generally some pretty upstanding guys. I've been watching more hockey.

I was actually at that game with my dad and brother. I went because I knew that my dad really wanted to go to a cold outdoor football game and he would love nothing more than to do it with his two boys. It was actually pretty fun until the last play. As Walsh was lining up the kick, a guy a couple of rows behind us said to someone next to him, "If we can't make this kick then we don't deserve to be in the playoffs anyway." At that instant, I pretty much knew it was going to be missed. There were days were I would have been smashing things after something like that. This time I just sat down silently and waited for the crowds to clear out and then headed to the car. We got back to my house and I went on with my day.

Exactly. Something that happens nearly 100 times a game isn't even obvious. That isn't the way to operate a competition.

I used to be a massive football fan. Sunday's were reserved for one thing and one thing only. I had Sunday Ticket for a decade. I literally planned my week around my ability to watch football even when I was in college. I was in multiple fantasy football leagues and obsessed about it. I can't really say when the beginning of the end started. I started to notice that I was so competitive in fantasy football that I found myself rooting against myself based on how my teams were doing. I eventually quit all of my leagues except one but picked up a pick 'em league. By that point though, I had completely burned myself out of fantasy football. I no longer had the time that I used to to really dig into it like I used to and I simply didn't enjoy it anymore. My teams started to suck, which only made things worse. I decided that I wasn't going to quit entirely unless I had a good team and still didn't enjoy it. That happened a few years ago. I won the league and hated every second of it. I took my John Elway moment and rode off into the sunset. That burnout is the reason that I will never join fantasy baseball. I don't want it to consume me and ruin the game for me. Since then, Directv quit giving me enough deals to make Sunday Ticket worthwhile. With so many games on other days plus the fact that most games are on at noon and so are the Vikings in most cases, it make no sense at all to keep it. The only reason that I did for so long is because I was either paying little to nothing for it. The constant commercials and long drawn out games started to bore me to death. The quality of play was decreasing and with rules changes started making the game unrecognizable to me. I applaud the efforts to make the game safer, but that's also part of the erosion of the game I enjoyed. These days, I MIGHT sit down and watch a Vikings game. I more inclined to watch college football but do it mainly if I have nothing else to do. I do and always have followed my alma mater, NDSU, pretty closely but other than that I really couldn't care less about football. I debated about whether to watch the Super Bowl last year. I did and am very glad that I did, but that had to do with the history that was made more than anything. I have no interest at all in it anymore.

Dietrich "where the offense" enns.

It's still a whiskey! I'm more of a rye guy myself, but I do enjoy me some bourbon.

Perhaps. That's why I try to avoid the confusion by drinking whiskey normally.