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Wouldn’t a product like big league chew, even though it’s obviously gum, do more to influence kids than a player actually doing it in a game? That’s probably the only reason I even knew what chew was at an early age and I’ve always been a huge baseball fan. Also, dugouts are still disgusting, but mostly because the players just throw their trash wherever the want to, except of course for the garbage can. Take a look at a dugout floor next time you watch a game. Some role models! -
That’s a really bizarre way of looking at it. You don’t care about another person’s personal liberties until they sit next to you.
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From a fan’s perspective, do you want to go to a game with your kids or with whoever and sit next to a guy who’s taking full advantage of the 2 cup per visit rule? Somebody who’s been tailgating since 3 hours before first pitch and downing as much as he can before they shut off sales? We’ve all been stuck sitting next to an obnoxious drunk oaf who thinks he’s hilarious hurling insults at the opposing team. And then when you finally leave the park, you just hope he’s not near you when he hops in his car to go home. Sounds a lot worse than Byron throwing a dip in before he heads out to center
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Hey, I’m not saying it’s healthy, good for you or safe in any way, shape or form. Nor am I saying that mlb doesn’t have every right in the world to ban it. But it affects the individual user only. I’ve never heard of a player having one too many dips and running over someone as he’s leaving the park, or a player who put too much chew in and went home and beat his wife. Let alone the behavior of fans who’ve had too much to drink. Those things, and many other bad things, happen when players are allowed to drink in the clubhouse. I worked in baseball, I saw it, and while some teams have implemented their own ban, the league has yet to do so because there’s more money involved in beer than there is in tobacco. It’s simple hypocrisy, that’s all.
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Can you prove this statement that chewing tobacco, not smoking, affects insurance costs more than alcohol? Yes, many clubs do have restrictions, many but not all.
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Fairness, uniformity, anti hypocrisy. Not that any of us are pro ball players, but I can sympathize. My workplace (a college) recently banned all forms of tobacco and while I disagree, I understand why. Same reason I understand why the powers that be banned the keg parties the old timers tell me they used to have many years ago for employees every other Friday after work. While it would be awesome to still have those, the horrible things that can happen when a few dozen people drive home after hours of drinking were understandably enough to cancel that. And I’m as pro beer as it comes, I’m a home brewer!
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That was obviously hyperbole, but you knew that. The same arguments you make for banning tobacco can be made for banning booze. Immediate impact, long term health concerns, fan interaction. Or is that not correct?
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I don’t buy your last point. Maybe from a fan standpoint, yes. But there’s zero reason it should be in any clubhouse if other things aren’t. Beer is no more ingrained to the players than tobacco. It’s not that it’s easier, it just costs less to ban it.
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I feel the same way when I sit next to a fat guy eating nachos. To each his own I guess.
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Lol wasn’t trying to put your in your place, you said you didn’t understand my point. I thought I’d help out.
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Who said they couldn’t? Did I say that? I just called them hypocrites, which you cannot possibly argue against.
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The organization that says you can’t dip in the dugout allows you to drink in the clubhouse. How is this so hard to understand.
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Oh stop don’t be ridiculous. I worked in baseball for several years at a place that had josh hancock’s Jersey hanging in the clubhouse right next to trash cans full of empty beer cans
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Yeah, but I highly doubt you’ll find too many places that won’t let you take a smoke break but will allow you to down a 6 pack on lunch.
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Like they say “impairment starts with the first drink” Maybe a small percentage of people who drink are addicted, but something like 13% of the adult population is considering to be alcoholics. So if tobacco use is around 6%..
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That it’s far more dangerous than dipping tobacco and mlb allows their employees to use it in their clubhouses and their fans to use it in their stadiums, and also profits from it. Sheesh I didn’t know this would be that difficult to comprehend.
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There are plenty of laws already concerning use of cars. What point exactly where you trying to make here? It’s always interesting to see how hard some people fight to make sure other people can’t enjoy things that have nothing to do with them.
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Believe me, I love my beer drinking as well (I have all the bad habits) so I’m not put off by any of the advertising. I just have a problem with the selectivity of it all. Sure, baseball and tobacco will always be linked and no that’s not a great thing for the kids to see. But I can parent my kids about substance abuse, I don’t need buxton to toss out his wad of dip to make my job any easier.
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Are you going to act like alcohol is not far and away a bigger threat to the health, safety and well being of not only the user but possibly those around them than some skoal? Is that going to be your argument? But alas $$$$$$$ talks
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I think the very nature of baseball lends itself to such a habit. Same reason seeds and bubblegum are popular with players. Not really with you on the argument not carrying weight. It’s selective enforcement and incredibly hypocritical, especially when alcohol is not only allowed but the league gladly profits from it. How about showing locker room celebrations where dudes are dousing each other in booze? What does that do for the young kids watching? I mean, banning tobacco in entire stadiums is laughable. “Miller park”, “Busch stadium” lol how about “Copenhagen ballpark”? Have you ever looked at the salt content of sunflower seeds? I would want my employees on a low sodium diet if I’m going to be responsible for their health care!
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What does throwing a dozen Budweiser ads up per game do for perpetuating bad habits amongst fans? I can’t think of a single televised sporting event I’ve ever seen where alcohol wasn’t a prominent advertiser.
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Ok then, ban sodas, hot dogs, hamburgers and all unhealthy food from the parks and clubhouses. Heck, alcohol isn’t even banned in all clubhouses, and even where it is I can guarantee the rule isn’t followed. Also, they should stop taking advertising bucks from any breweries and we all know that won’t happen. Alcohol has ruined countless more lives, is more widely abused and is responsible for many more deaths than dipping. Think of how many ball players dip and you can name one who died from it. There have probably been more DUI deaths from players leaving stadiums at all levels than guys who’s jaws have fallen off. It’s selective, feel good policing. That’s all.
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I didn’t start dipping because I saw a baseball player on tv do it. It was actually a guy at work that got me into it. Obviously I’m aware of the health issues but once a day suits me just fine.
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So 1/3 of major leaguers dip or chew and only 6% of nonplaying males use it. I wonder how many players drink heavily? Just because we can’t see them do it doesn’t make much of a difference. Hardly seems like much to worry about. Unlike smoking, it only affects the user, unless you are squeamish about people spitting. These guys are going to parks like 9 months out of the year. Let them have a little something. Maybe require some preseason education about he dangers of using. Not a big deal IMO, just something for some folks to feel good about.
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