Vanimal46
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Concur. It's a no win proposition for the player and team. If players were placed on the DL every time they're banged up fans will label them as injury prone and soft. If they play through injury and struggles doing so, fans will think he doesn't have it anymore and wants him DFA'd.
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We hardly knew ya, Carlson.
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That's just what happens over the course of a game, Chief. I'm sure over this long season the last out was made by Bobby Wilson batting 9th in the order. Doesn't mean they should have had Eddie Rosario batting 9th. That's what no one has discussed with me yet. If the goal of this idea is to squeeze a few extra outs from the "starting" pitching staff it should be beneficial for everyone including Berrios and Gibson. They could squeeze a few extra outs themselves and be better. Why not 162 opener games then?
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Jtkoupal just responded saying the effects of batting order over the long run is minimal... If the opener occurred every day, sure, Mike Trout batting 5th will result in less PAs over the season. Openers don't happen every day, so the long term strategy you're describing doesn't really apply. They can stack the batting order 4,5,6 on games there's an opener. On games when Berrios starts, Trout is back to hitting 3 or wherever he normally bats.
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Yeah that's true. I don't know how the comp picks work in football. I don't expect Siemian to play except in 4th quarter garbage time... What do his stats have to look like in order to earn a 5th round pick vs. a 6th round pick?
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No doubt about it. Of course there are differences in the sports (salary cap vs. no salary cap, revenue sharing, etc.) but throughout his tenure as owner, he's never shied away from large FA signings and spending up to the last dollar on their salary cap. The pieces are in place to go for a Super Bowl over the next 3 years while Kirk is here. Should be a blast to follow along.
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That's what I'm hoping for! Be up 28-0 then see what Sloter can do. We know what Siemian's upside is, which isn't much.
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It's possible this is the direction baseball is going. Until more than 2 teams implement this idea I still think it's a gimmick. If more teams implement this idea there's no doubt in my mind analytics teams will propose other strategies to counteract the opener concept. Take the wildcat formation in football as an example. The Miami Dolphins came up with this innovative idea and they were the only team doing it one season. As a result, they won 11 games. The next season, nearly every team in the NFL implemented a version of the wildcat in their offense. Teams started to realize all they had to do was stack people near the line of scrimmage to stop it. As a result, the wildcat fizzled out of the league. The answer to combat the opener may not be obvious now. If more teams implement it, the answer will look obvious in the future.
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We found a winner for the 2019 Twins season slogan.
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Everything, IMO. Otherwise this opener concept wouldn't be a thing. He's not trusted to be a starting pitcher and needs assistance to get the TOUGH outs in the 1st inning.
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Gotcha. I'm not paying close attention anymore clearly.
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They don't seem to care about Odorizzi's routine... Some days he starts. Other days he's the primary pitcher. Since this is a hot new concept I'm trying to understand the logic. They're using openers to supplement marginal pitchers like Odorizzi, Stewart, etc. So those pitchers enter the game starting with the opponent's 4, 5, or 6 batter. By that same logic, Berrios should be even better if he also has an opener. He could pitch 7-8 innings and theoretically have a better ERA because he's also at an advantage. So why don't we have 162 opener starts next year because all of our primary pitchers will have better stats and stay in the game longer? Berrios with a 2.5 ERA is better than Berrios who starts and has a 3.5 ERA.
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The opener vs. starter topic is pretty cut and dry to me. Did Stewart start the game? Since the answer is no, he's not a starter. Did the strategy work out this particular game? Yes. What does that mean going forward with Stewart's evaluation? Is he going to continue being a primary pitcher? Why don't all starting pitchers use an opener? I'm sure Berrios could benefit entering the game against the opponent's #5 or #6 batter too.
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Well he's not any # of starter in the rotation because he's a primary pitcher....
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How do you evaluate a primary pitcher like Stewart? There's a reason why they use an opener for him right? Is the hope he can be an actual starting pitcher next season? Someone tell me how I'm supposed to feel.
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The Bills are a horrible, horrible football team. I'm not worried one bit about their odds of winning. A successful game to me looks like this: - Vikings up by 3+ TDs by halftime - No special teams blunders - We play all of the backups by the middle of the 3rd quarter
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He's been invisible since his rookie year, frankly. My expectations certainly aren't met from a pass rushing perspective. I'm fine with him moving on after the season.
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Bailey is on the way!
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If they can take the hit this year and still have some room for emergency signings later on in the season I'm all for it. Really I just want Treadwell off the field for now and figure out the logistics later.
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No, but I'm assuming he's staying on roster because the rest of his contract is guaranteed regardless. So if they can't release him without a penalty, or trade him (ha!) the only options left are bury him on the depth chart or deactivate him.
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Treadwell's role going forward should be #4 or 5 WR. Hell, maybe even deactivated over half the time.
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We have a long, long ways to go before draft time, so I have no idea. As far as the off-season ahead, lots of work needs to be done. Find a legit fielding SS, a pitcher who can slot in at #1 or #2 in the rotation, 3-4 bullpen arms, and legit backup plans for Buxton/Sano.
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I think so, and that may be the best option for us going forward.
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I'm on board with Zylstra getting Treadwell's reps. I was also thinking about this last night - they could move Rudolph into Treadwell's spot and play Morgan more often as a blocking TE to support the OL. Treadwell's routes are not complicated and it's certainly something Rudolph can do.
