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  1. Vanimal46
    I read Premier League is also being played without fans. So why is it only MLB owners complaining about not being able to afford their expenses? I’m also seeing individual teams agreeing to percentage pay cuts during times when they weren’t playing games. Much different than ordering league wide cuts for all teams that MLB owners are proposing. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1273846/Premier-League-clubs-pay-cuts-wage-deferrals-coronavirus
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    The NFL is right around the corner, and will have their own internal battle between NFLPA and the owners too. Have they released the financial agreements between the other sports leagues that are back? Are Premiere League soccer players taking 50% pay cuts to return?
  3. Vanimal46
    Can't imagine the feeling of betrayal some of these players have with this league... Imagine knowing that the owner of the baseball team you're on doesn't think your personal value is worth $10 an hour. There are going to be dozens of future major league baseball players released. Teams are mostly bad at managing the bottom 25% of their roster. I hope the smart teams take advantage and pick up some of these new free agents.
  4. Vanimal46
    What a shame. Link to the story: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29237251/minor-league-baseball-cuts-hundreds-players-amid-pandemic-sources-say
  5. Vanimal46
    Are you advocating that a business like MLB stops growing? And, in fact, decrease revenues from $10 billion today? Because that doesn't sound like a reasonable solution in this capitalist world where everyone wants year over year growth. If you're not, what you're really advocating then is the owners pocketing more of the profits than they currently are.
  6. Vanimal46
    Here’s a really simple solution. Owners should open their books. Let’s see the full financial picture. I’m sure an agreement could come together quickly if there’s some transparency on both sides.
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    When/how are top players going to make up the lost $27 million? If they opt out, will their contracts simply toll until 2021? And the contract expiration season is pushed one year into the future?
  9. Vanimal46
    This is what was leaked. What are the minimum players making, $100k?
  10. Vanimal46
    If Astudillo knows how to start a fire and fish, he’s got a big head start! Now I’m starting to think which Twins player would perform the best on his own in the wilderness?
  11. Vanimal46
    I've been watching the show "Alone" on History channel lately. Since the players and owners continue to fight over money, here's an idea. Send the owner and one player representative to the wilderness. The owner and player rep have to survive as long as they can on their own. The last person to tap out wins 100% of the team's revenue.
  12. Vanimal46
    Okay. This thread is titled Is MLB really making return about dollars and cents? So that’s what I’m discussing.
  13. Vanimal46
    No players are saying otherwise. They agreed to a pro-rated salary. During those discussions, Scott Boras said the owners agreed to these conditions with the possibility of no fans in the stands. The owners backed out of the agreement. That’s what this is about.
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    I enjoy the irony of a guy who, like me, would trade prospects for proven MLB talent almost every time, now says give the job to any willing minor leaguer. Don’t get lost in the tone of the message. The players have a right to push back after previously accepting a pro-rated rate on their contract. https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1261302304680132612?s=21
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    That team against other MLB teams would challenge the Cleveland Spiders win percentage. We really really underestimate just how good these players are that make the MLB.
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    You won't get an argument by me that it's bad optics on both sides. The players aren't going to get any sympathy for battling over millions of dollars from average Joes. The owners may be out of the public right now, but they're just as guilty of making this a fight between money. Their poor optics are not negotiating in good faith one year away from a major CBA negotiation. We're reading different sources in regards to the pro-rated contracts. I read this quote from Scott Boras in SI. “The players I represent are unified in that they reached an agreement and they sacrificed anywhere from 30 to 40% of their salaries so that the games could amicably continue,” said Boras. “The owners represented during that negotiation that they could operate without fans in the ballpark. Based on that, we reached an agreement and there will not be a renegotiation of that agreement.” Which makes me believe they discussed not having fans in the stands, owners agreed to the pro-rated salaries, and now owners want to take that back to see what other concessions they can get out of the players. By the way, didn't the MLB use replacement players during the strike in 1995 and it was a colossal failure? Would you pay the same amount of money to attend a game at Target Field with a team full of AAAA talent?
  19. Vanimal46
    Did you not see the owners backing away from their previous agreement of pro-rated salaries? Now they want players to take a further pay cut because of projected losses. The owners made this about money. The players have every right to also make it about money. Here’s the difference between players and the 36 million unemployed. The players have highly specialized skills. Millions of average joes want to see them play for their entertainment.
  20. Vanimal46
    Why do the players have to give in?
  21. Vanimal46
    Heart breaking. Sorry for your loss. I’ve also read stories of people our age (early 30s) dealing with strokes and blood clots and it’s terrifying.
  22. Vanimal46
    God forbid they’re on the losing side for a brief period of time...
  23. Vanimal46
    Most good business owners are taking less salary or forgoing their salary completely during this pandemic. Hell, we’re asking common Joe landlord to take responsibility on rent payments that their tenants can’t afford. Billionaire baseball owners can survive a down year revenue wise.
  24. Vanimal46
    If there’s one subgroup of people who can handle that loss, it’s billionaire owners of sports teams.
  25. Vanimal46
    *Checks calendar* Yep, the CBA is expiring next year. Owners act like they’re pinching pennies when it’s time to meet at the negotiating table. Honestly at this point it would be more entertaining if a team actually went bankrupt just to see what happens. Owners crying that they’re on the verge of bankruptcy doesn’t do it for me anymore. NBA owners whines about barely making enough money to keep the lights on before their last CBA. From what I’m gathering, there are still 30 teams in that league.
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