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  1. But his defense in the outfield is as good as the Twins want. Personally I would rather have an average defensive 3rd Baseman than an average or bad outfielder. If he misses one at 3rd its a single, if he misses one in LF or RF its turns a single or out into a double or triple. I don't think Ryan is lying that Sano is in the OF, what he isn't saying is, until or if Plouffe is moved which I believe will happen.
  2. I think completely changing swings is not a good thing. 1st of all the player was drafted, traded for signed, etc because they had success in some regards. To go ahead and change that swing they have become accustomed to in order to fit into a mold the "Teacher" feels more comfortable teaching tells me it is more on the coach not knowing how to coach all swing types. Yes, I agree there are flaws in swings that can be removed, swings shortened a bit, hitches, etc. But the foot down philosophy just seems to be a hinderance to power and driving the ball. If the bat can get through the zone on the right plane with a good amount of speed don't mess with it, adjust as necessary. Think of golf swings. Jim Furyk is the prime example of a "what the hell was that" type of swing. What matters is he gets the club in the slot and generates the plane, speed and power necessary to be successful. Should be the same with baseball swings. Let them wiggle and shake and use a leg kick. If they can make good contact leave it be and let them learn the advanced pitching with one less thing to worry about.
  3. In regards to the OP's suggestion that they may still be looking for a catcher. I wonder if after Park signs, (assuming he does) they move Plouffe and Murphy for a more experience catcher/better catcher.
  4. I'm all for trading Plouffe for the right assets in return. I also believe that if the Twins want to improve their team in 2016 with a Plouffe trade, they will have to include additional players/prospects. An outside the box trade for a catcher could be Plouffe + John Ryan Murphy for an upgrade at Catcher. Whomever the receiving team is gets their target in Plouffe + a catcher and in return gives up a better Catcher + Relief help. Most likely a pipe dream but i don't think the Twins improve in 2016 with a straight Plouffe Trade, perhaps they get a longer term piece for him but nothing to help in 2016 IMO.
  5. Really makes you wonder then why this is the first year ever anyone has accepted a QO. If you are essentially a 2 WAR player you are worth about $16M a year. If you play near that you would be getting QO's every year. The risk of injury or if the player is really worth $20M+ per year is the only reason I could see turning one down when when their is the risk of not getting paid that value on the market. I would think that any team willing to sign a QO guy is going to dilute their offer due to the draft pick comp they have to give up on the front end. Example Wieters declines the QO: Signs with Team X for 3 years at $13M/yr. Or he signs the QO gets $15.3M (Already up $2.3M), signs again the next year now up $4.6 and in year 3 doesn't get a QO and signs a 3 year deal for $8M/Yr. Assuming no injury this is the better financial option.
  6. I was wondering the same thing? Is he a free and clear FA next year? So if he goes crazy liek .295/350/.500 with 20+ HRs can the Orioles offer it again to get draft pick comp or do they have to really offer him what he would be worth?
  7. Many of these trade scenarios everyone is writing are based on the Twins doing it during the Winter Meetings. Why? Kepler and Buxton will most likely start in AAA. The Twins outfield will then be Rosario, Hicks, ??Sano??. Plouffe plays 3rd, Park and Mauer DH/1st base. Now assume Buxton and possibly Kepler come up in June and absolutely rake. Assuming Hicks is playing at his 2014 level you can trade him for much more at the deadline. In this scenario assume Sano is struggling RF but still hitting .265 with 15-20 HR's by July. if Plouffe is his old self you could then flip him for something and move Sano to 3rd. I just don't see the reason why the Twins need to trade either at the winter meetings. Winter meeting deals in my opinion are more for guys with one year left on their contract so they become more than a rental to the receiving team. That is not the case for either Hicks or Plouffe. I also don't see the harm if Hicks is tearing it to keep him around. Maybe Rosario struggles and becomes more of a bench player when Buxton comes up. So many scenarios other than trade every in December.
  8. I still hear on occasion about how great of an athlete Mauer still is. Wouldn't moving him into a platoon role in the outfield/1B make more sense and give the team more flexibility? Mauer can platoon with Rosario/Hicks in OF and at 1B platoon with Plouffe/Park while Sano plays 3rd/1st and DH. I know it makes for an unstable consistent lineup this seems to in my head to make most sense. I do agree though that Mauer does seem to be the piece that is clogging everything up right now.
  9. I would prefer Arcia as well, however, I don't think any team will trade for him knowing the Twins current situation at OF and DH. He has to make the 25 man roster otherwise he is out of options and will be on waivers. So unless they really really want him they can wait to see if he even makes the Twins roster which could be a stretch at this point given the current log jam at his spots.
  10. Well, with the Park posting Vargas may have become suddenly available as the Left Handed Bat, + Plouffe and Nolasco. Maybe Polanco as well? There are 3 of their needs right there for Shields, Kimbrel and Norris? I would say unlikely but on the track to getting there. I also wonder how active San Diego will be in the trade market this year after last years cupboard emptying resulting not very good results.
  11. This somewhat concerns me. The pitching in the KBO is pretty weak. Yes he hit 53 HR's but he struck out 161 times as well in 622 PAs. As long as they don't assume Park is going to come in and perform at All-Star levels and start moving established guys out to make room I will be fine with it. Also this guy hit 48 HR's, but had a much worse peripherals than Park. Just sayin. http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.cgi?id=navarr001yam
  12. I agree that Twins fans overrate Plouffe. Especially since he seems to be the best of the expendable players on the roster. I would rate Plouffe as a top 15-20 third baseman in the league, probably closer to 20 (so bottom half). But I think the piece that would make him more valuable than other players of similar ability to him in terms of hitting would be his contract and the fact he is a very reliable defensive third baseman compared to other strong hitting ones. But as Nick said I wouldn't just trade him to trade him. The best option may be to wait for one of his multi-week hot streaks during the season and trade him then.
  13. Seth mentioned how to the Twins can get to $25M of room to potentially sign a guy for that salary. What I am about to say is based a lot on hindsight but also is based on planning and building the team for the future. 2 years ago the Twins were, bad. Really bad. They then went out and signed 2 decent (at the time) starting pitchers in Hughes and Nolasco for $9M and $12M. Then last year they signed Santana for $13.5M ($34.5M Total) Most likely Ryan knew the Team was not going to be competitive in 2014 and most thought 2015 was going to be another 90 loss season. 2016 was always the year in which the team was going to hopefully be able to start to be competitive again. If Ryan had that thought process wouldn't it have made sense to sign some lesser priced pitchers in 2014 for shorter term deals so for this coming year instead of having $34M locked up in 3 mid rotation pitchers the team could now go out and get an true ace type pitcher and have some money left over to build a pen and surround the Ace in the rotation with guys like Gibson, May and Berrios and Duffey. I know it's very much a hind sight thought and there is no guarantee you can get an ace. But looking at it this way wouldn't the team be in a great situation. The other side of this is the Twins wouldn't sign a high priced guy because that $34 was never been earmarked on 3 mid rotation guys since the signings never happened or they would do the same type of thing in 2016 and just sign 3 Mike Leakes and Tim Stauffer.
  14. Defining an ace is hard. But in my opinion the Twins have only had 1 in my adult life. Johan Santana. When I think of an ace I think of a guy who I have no doubt is going to go out and win. Every time Johan was on the mount I just assumed the Twins would win because he would shut down whoever they were playing. I never once thought, he gives them a chance to win, I assumed they were going to win and because of him. For a brief period that was also Francisco Liriano in 2006 too, but sustained it was Johan.
  15. 2016 Biggest Surprises: Positives: 1) Buxton and Berrios have ROY type seasons 2) Mauer hits .300 3) Sano plays 3rd well and hits 40+ HR 4) Gonsalves is Berrioslike in Minors Negatives: 1) Dozier's season is more like 2015 2nd half 2) Rosario struggles 3) Perkins and Jepson pitch poorly leaving a hole at back-end of pen 4) Extension of #3, Due to poor back of pen pitching, May is forced back into pen after starting well in the rotation
  16. 2 years ago.
  17. 17th overall picks by WAR going back to 1965: http://www.baseball-reference.com/draft/?overall_pick=17&draft_type=junreg& I wouldn't let the 17th overall pick be the piece that sways the Twins from doing this if it comes down to it. As I mentioned before, my biggest concern would be how much longer does Wieters stay a catcher. Nick Nelson doesn't seem to think that is a concern yet. If he is signed for 4 years $60M and plays catcher the whole 4 years. I'd do it.
  18. Most of his value is due to the fact he is a catcher. If he can't catch or become a liability as a catcher sooner rather than later this could be a bad contract. If he continues to catch then I would be ok with it. But like I said if he isn't a catcher then he essentially becomes Trevor Plouffe.
  19. Why is this even an argument. 1) TR isn't going anywhere until he decides he wants to leave/quit 2) TR won't take a lesser role and leave roster management up to someone else (See point 1)
  20. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Gonsalves said he was NOT throwing a breaking ball in Cedar Rapids and essentially getting guys out with a good fastball/change up mix and excellent, excellent control. It seems that he was told to get out better hitters in high-A he had to start throwing the breaking stuff because the more advanced hitters would sit on fastballs and change ups and hit them hard no matter where they are located unless he mixed in a breaking ball.
  21. I'm with you on Buxton. If you were to go and watch video of him in his first stint with the Twins and then watch video of him in his last week or two of the season I think you would be seeing an almost different player. Even though he wasn't a world beater by any means towards the end, the quality of his at bats and the contact he was making were tenfold better than his first stint. I think he only gets better for the next few years in big leagues. I still think he is All-Star quality all around player. If he hits slightly better than people project him he could be MVP quality. Just my two cents.
  22. Or you get 2nd half Dozier for the full season . . . . .210/.280/.359 (.639) Only 9HR Which I guess still projects to about 18 HRs. But if I had my way I would take 10HR guy that can get on base at a clip better that .280.
  23. With Dozier you wait until the All-Star break if his past two seasons are any sort of trend. If he bats .250 with 15+ HR at the break, I would trade him with the assumption that he will drastically decline as pitchers begin to remember he doesn't hit outside pitches or low pitches well. I wonder if I am the millionth person to say this next part, I would trade Plouffe for a catcher.
  24. If the height thing really is an issue I doubt the Twins would trade for Sonny Gray. He's only 5'11". That being said he is borderline "Ace" material. So like most of the other posters I don't think height is an issue.
  25. I think the Twins will be good next year. World Series good? I don't think so. In that case in a perfect world Phil Hughes reverts back to 2014 performance. Then I would package him with a prospect of need for the other team and trade for young stud. Phil is from Tampa and wouldn't mind playing there is my best guess. So in the 2016 offseason assuming Phil is stellar in 2015 I would do a Phil Hughes, Gibson and Kepler for Chris Archer. I doubt Tampa does that, but Tampa isn't afraid to trade and the Twins get to keep Berrios.
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