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Excited to see Varland go multiple innings in critical relief. I am curious if the FO is serious about potentially shopping Duran or Jax as you would have expected both of them out there in this game, especially with as little work as they have had this past week. Don't take this as complaining about Rocco's bullpen usage. Just an observation.

Without going too much farther into the weeds. At least it wouldn't be boring. 😉

I hear that Minnesota will have a Governor and Senate election in 2026. And THAT is as far into politics as I'm going on this site.

I thought I had looked this up on Monday. You are correct that they signed Bader that day. They also signed Danny Coulombe that day as well. I'm not sure which one took Henriquez's roster spot.

It'll be interesting to see the Twins/Rockies in Denver after the ASB. I wonder how many shutout innings have ever been pitched at Coors Field. Will the Twins set a new record?

Seems like I remember reading that these mutual options never seem to get exercised. Would like to see if he would resign a 2 year 8-9M per year contract. That gives us a quality fielder with the time needed for a Jenkins/Eeles/Rodriguez to see if they can establish themselves.

I'm just excited that Lewis not only legged out the dribbler, but his hammies are still intact.

How dare Wallner get a hit against a lefty! Rocco's Excel Spreadsheet is very angry! BTW, what name should we give Rocco's Excel Spreadsheet? Hal has already been taken.

Interesting. SWR can only go 5 IP and 75 pitches and up 2-1. Festa gives up 4 runs but is allowed to go 6 innings and 87 pitches. I'm done calling out the manager/coaches. I just want it to make sense.

Do you get extra credit for the bat going farther than the ball in an AB?

I tend to agree that the Twins aren't as bad as we suggest in these threads. I also stand by the statement that I don't think Rocco is getting the most out of this team, regardless of how many players are injured.

I would think the interim manager would be Jayce Tingler for the remainder of the season. I would love to see Toby Gardenhire maybe get a chance and bring his father as an advisor/bench coach, similar to what Derek Shelton did for Rocco in 2019.

Good. Can we trade that talent for someone at the local county fair that has a watermelon spitting contest? I'm sure the winner of that contest would manage the Twins the same way that Rocco does.

Reason #3158 that Rocco should be fired instead of signed for another year. I agree with the defenders that another manager likely isn't going to turn this team around this year, but I would still like someone with a little more energy than King Tut in his sarcophagus.

I suggested earlier in this thread that the first team to wake up wins. I think we found the team that woke up.

That's because he had already walked to second.

Willi Castro is working hard to get his trade value up. A walk and a stolen base already.

Early morning baseball! I wonder if it works the same way as watching early morning high school tournaments: the first team to wake up wins. 😎

That's my concern as well about a major overhaul. Also, as I have commented before, a major overhaul may lower the potential FMV of the team and we are already worried that the current ownership won't sell. We kind of saw this when Arte Moreno took the Angels off the market and that team seems to have less of a future than we do.

Just would like to make a correction here that may affect your consideration. Duran and Jax still have two years of arbitration left after 2025. Neither will become free agents until 2028. Minnesota Twins Multi-Year Table

I was disappointed in Rocco's explanation on why he took SWR out after 5 innings. He said that he had an entire bullpen rested and ready to go to support SWR and get the win and the bullpen arms had already been planned out for the game. He must have forgotten that he still has a potential bullpen game to plan for on Saturday and that's provided that Festa and Paddack will go at least 5 innings the next two days, which is not always guaranteed in Rocco ball. My only real defense that I can come up with is that the heart of the Marlins order was coming up in the 6th (batters 2-4).

I'm not sure it's so much casting them off as it is just the reality of team that could be selling at the deadline. Bader has a mutual agreement so there is a chance we could resign him next year. My hope for Castro is we can do what the Tigers did with Flaherty; trade him to a contender with the understanding that we want to resign him in the offseason. France may still be here at the end of the season as I don't see him having much trade value. Paddack will likely want what the market will command as he is running out of years left in the MLB. Even bad starters are getting $12-17M, which I think will be more than the Twins will be willing to pay as I would rather see that money go towards an extension on Ryan.

This is the part of being a fan I am most fascinated with: trying to be the GM without knowing all of the knowledge the GM knows in how to plan an organization for the next 1-5 years. There are many things that concern me regarding this list or anyone that still has years left of arbitration left before free agency. The team is still for sale at this moment, and I would find it frightening that a FO that may not be there would make sweeping changes that will affect the team for years to come. I don't see many of our players with years left of arbitration that have enough built-up value to bring back any value in a trade that would help us in the near future. Additionally, there is an expected lockout after the 2026 season. The first potential work stoppage that will include the minor league players, as they are now part of the players union. Any prolonged work stoppage may affect the minor leagues as well. Think of another COVID type year and how that affected development of the minor leaguers. The players: Duran or Jax - I think we are fooling ourselves into thinking we are going to get a crop full of prospects for either one of them. I also look at the Josh Hader trade from Milwaukee to San Diego. Hader was traded a year later than a potential Duran trade, but was more well-established as a dominant closer, and yet still fell quite short of the kind of package we are expecting from a Duran trade. If we believe in this core, then you believe in a re-tooling for next year and Duran for next year is more valuable to you than what you would likely receive in a trade. Larnach or Wallner - Larnach is a year closer to free agency and that always factors in your decision. I don't see either one as really a strong enough trade piece to generate a useful prospect at the deadline. This decision is better made for the offseason. Lewis - I'm not as worried as Lewis turning into the next David Ortiz as I am just making sure he is healthy, and we know everything we can get out of him prior to making a decision. This may include seeing if he is willing to pick up a first baseman's glove in the offseason, especially if you believe in Keaschall coming back and being able to plug into 2B. Lewis may end up being closer to Gio Urshela or Glyber Torres than Nolan Arenado, but we really won't know that until we have a full season where he is not injured for most of it. We also have questions about Julien, Miranda, Martin, and others where they fit in the system going forward. I'll end with this. The Royals have brought up Jac Caglianone and seem to be committed to playing him on a daily basis, although he currently has an OPS+ of 21. Do you think the Twins would do the same with Walker Jenkins or Emmy Rodriguez?

I'll be wrong every day if it means a Twins win!

Well, my story on how we choke this game is still intact. Let's say it starts with nubber hit up the third base line that we don't field cleanly.