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  1. Not quite. That would be a cool tool to have . wRC+ like OPS+ measures how a player compares to league average (100) using different metrics. wRC+ is based off wOBA. wRC+ is also park and league adjusted so it allows you to compare players using different years, parks and leagues. For example, run scoring environments change every year. Also, Coors Field is a better ball park to hit in than Target Field. American and National league also have different run scoring environments. So when you're looking at a player's wRC+, it's been adjusted by all these factors.
  2. Only five full time shortstops hit better than Dozier last year. One of them being Drew. Morales has no positional value and is likely the worst base runner in baseball. 2013 League Average DH wRC+: 110 Morales 2013 wRC+: 116 2013 League Average SS wRC+: 85 Drew 2013 wRC+: 109
  3. If your question is fair or unfair. Then this post is completely unfair. You're merging regular season and post season plate appeareances for Drew and then comparing him to other players who only accumulated regular season PA. There is a completely different level of competition in the post season. The starting pitchers he faced: Price, Cobb, Archer, Verlander, Scherzer(twice), Sanchez(twice), Fister, Wainwright(twice), Wacha(twice). That's not including how bullpens are used differently. Other than Ortiz and Ellsbury, every single Boston player had a significant dip in offense in the post season. Nothing special? Even a 96 OPS+ is 12% above the average shortstop. That's better than Morales compared to the average DH. Why are you using OPS+ and mentioning his home ballpark? OPS+ is park adjusted. If career mediocrity is above average offense with above average defense, then there aren't many mediocre shortstops in this league.
  4. I haven't heard of Boston holding out to UP or match but the dollar figures are close to what I've heard. I think 3 years, $30M is about the range he's looking for at this point and teams are holding at two years. I personally feel that's more than fair, especially considering Peralta got 4 years, $53M and is a year older.
  5. What reported contract demands? I haven't heard of any from Drew's camp. If anything Drew's contract demands are likely dwindling. Very few teams have a need at SS, and Drew is saddled with draft pick compensation. On the other hand, there's a large market for starting pitching and Garza doesn't have a draft pick attached to him. It's likely Garza will receive close to double what Drew will at this point. Perhaps more than double.
  6. I agree. And Stephen Drew is a good defensive SS.
  7. It's reasonable to think that about most free agents, as they are usually around 30 by the time they hit the market. It's his age 31-33 seasons, so slight regression is expected. But you can't assume he'll be a liability either.
  8. It is now 2014 and Stephen Drew is still a free agent. There has been speculation regarding the Twins making a run at Drew. Some are in favor of a possible signing, while some are against it. This is a common theme when speculating on transactions. Everyone is going to have his opinion. Here is my case for signing Stephen Drew. [PRBREAK][/PRBREAK] More information on the stats used below can be found in the Glossary section of Fangraphs.com. Offensive Upside Stephen Drew was a good offensive player in 2013, putting up a wRC+(weighted runs created, normalized for park and league effects) of 109. That's before considering that he is a shortstop. In 2013 the league average wRC+ for shortstops was 85. To put that into perspective, his offensive production was similar to Dustin Pedroia (115 wRC+) compared to the league average second baseman (91 wRC+) and Allen Craig (135 wRC+) compared to the league average first baseman (110 wRC+). While that gives you an idea of how good his offense was for a shortstop, it would be more helpful to compare him to the player he'd be replacing. Pedro Florimon had a 68 wRC+ in 2013. So Drew was essentially 41% better at creating runs than Florimon. To give you an idea of how much better 41% is, I used two other full time Twins players to help illustrate how big of an upgrade Drew would have been over Florimon. Florimon wRC+: 68 Drew wRC+: 109 Dozier wRC+: 101 Cano wRC+: 142 Plouffe wRC+: 93 Longoria wRC+: 133 If you are skeptical that this was a career year for Drew, and thus an outlier, this was the fourth season that Drew put up a 109 wRC+ or higher. Steady Defense While Florimon is one of the better defensive shortstops in the league, Drew is a good defensive shortstop in his own right. Here is how Drew's defense has rated over the last five years using UZR/150 (ultimate zone rating, over 150 games) and DRS (defensive runs saved). UZR/150: 4.0 DRS: 3 Using 4000 innings as the threshold, a total of only 10 shortstops rated above zero in both defensive metrics during that time frame. Overall Player Using the same five year time frame, here are Drew's overall numbers. wRC+: 98 UZR/150: 4.0 DRS: 3 During that span, only three other shortstops met or exceeded these standards: Tulowitzki, (Yunel) Escobar, and Peralta. In 2013, once again, only three shortstops met these standards. Tulowitzki, (Yunel) Escobar and Hardy. Health Concerns Health should be a concern with every player, but it seems to be overblown with Drew. He has been tagged with words like injury-prone and fragile, which doesn't seem to be fair. When you take out his flukey 2011 ankle injury (broken bone and torn ligaments from a slide in to home), Drew averaged 142 games played in his other five full seasons in the majors. In those five seasons he has been on the DL three times for a total of 54 days. Those three DL stints were caused by two hamstring strains and a concussion suffered from being hit in the head by a pitch. So other than a couple of freak injuries, he's been quite durable. 2015 Class There has been talk about shortstops who may be available through free agency next offseason. So I wanted to compare them to Drew noting their ages when hitting free agency, along with their offense and defense over the past five seasons. I didn't include Ramirez and Jeter because they aren't realistic options due to many factors. [TABLE=width: 500] [/TD][TD]Age wRC+ UZR/150 DRS Drew 31 98 4.0 3 Cabrera 29 107 -10.8 -19 Lowrie 31 108 -4.4 -28 Hardy 32/33 92 9.3 31 Rollins 36 92 4.6 -29 [/TABLE] All things considered, Drew looks to be the most attractive player. The Conclusion Other than giving up a second round draft pick, all things point to Drew being a great signing. He is a good player who would provide a significant upgrade at a position at which the Twins lack options. He would also provide balance to an infield (Dozier, Plouffe) that struggles against right-handed pitching. There seems to be a thin market for Drew with the Red Sox and Mets being the two teams most often mentioned. There have been reports that teams are not willing to go past two years, so this would be a good time for the Twins to jump in and offer Drew three years, $30-33 million. It would be nice to have another proven position player alongside Mauer to help with the infusion of youth coming up in the next couple years. Especially a shortstop.
  9. That's why I used wRC+ as the offensive stat. It's park and league adjusted.
  10. Of the three issues, timing may be the one that might concern me a bit. Even so, Drew would be a step closer in the right direction. As a fallback option, he should be an asset as an above average shortstop. Unless he completely falls apart, there should be opportunity to recoup value in a trade. I'm not sure about the clubhouse thing. Unfortunately I wasn't able to quantify it . FWIW, I've ran into several quotes mentioning that he was good in the Boston clubhouse.
  11. Garza wasn't offered a qualifying offer. He was traded mid-season so he was ineligible to receive one.
  12. Florimon is an outstanding defensive SS. After Simmons, who is in his own league, I'd put Florimon in the next tier. That tier for me includes.. Troy Tulowitzki Escobars (Alcides and Yunel) Jose Iglesias Brendan Ryan Pete Kozma He is a useful MLB player and should be in the majors for the next 5-7 years. Depending on how long his defense holds up.
  13. Going after Garza would make sense if they are looking to continue to add to the team. I don't like a Garza signing as the final move of the offseason.
  14. I'm using Fryer in comparison to Herrmann as they're very comparable players. Both players were drafted as 21 year olds. Both players played in the same leagues going through the minors. Both players played quite a bit in the outfield in the minors. Both players reached AAA in their age 25 season. Minor league numbers going into their age 26 season. Chris Herrmann - (.258/.349/.372) (.721 OPS) (20/30 SB) Rookie Ball OPS - (.845) A+ OPS - (.654) AA OPS - (.754) AAA OPS - (.608) Eric Fryer - (.281/.371/.427) (.798 OPS) (45/57 SB) Rookie Ball OPS - (.619) A+ OPS - (.770) AA OPS - (.976) AAA OPS - (.647) If you take out Rookie Ball numbers, Herrmann's OPS is sub (.700). Herrmann may be athletic, but he has 20 stolen bases over 5 years in the minors, while being caught 10 times. So he's not adding value on the bases. Herrmann's Major League Numbers - (.189/.268/.297) (.565 OPS) Small sample size, but they're not out of line with his minor league numbers. His ISO and BB% are where they should be. There's a spike in K% and a drop in BABIP which can be attributed to facing major league pitching. These are reasons I don't have much hope in Herrmann and why I still have some in Fryer. Especially since 2012 seems like an outlier, everything else tells me Fryer can be a viable major league catcher. Can't say the same about Herrmann.
  15. In the minors Fryer played 141 games in the outfield compared to Herrmann 208. I agree with this. They shouldn't carry three catchers. I think Seth has it right. It's either Suzuki/Pinto or Suzuki/Fryer. There's really nothing Herrmann does better than Fryer.
  16. I would sign Jeff Baker and rotate the DH. He has a career .875 OPS against lefties, can play all four corners and second base. Parmelee starts against righties, allowing Willingham, Arcia or Mauer to DH. Baker starts against lefties, allowing Plouffe, Willingham, Arcia or Mauer to DH. Baker would also be nice to have off the bench. Could serve as a pinch hitter in key situations and is versatile on defense.
  17. Yes, he has a tight body. I see that from his tight pants. He is..
  18. In 2011 Fryer crushed AA then got moved to AAA. He was hitting .262/.377/.446 at AAA before he got called up. He spent six weeks on the major league roster to only get 29 PA. When he was sent back down he hit .132/.281/.151. Which is why his OPS dropped. In 2012 he was battling a shoulder injury. Part of the reason on why it was such an outlier to the rest of his career. His overall 2013 numbers are in line with his career numbers. 14.4% walk rate with a .150 ISO. When he became the full time catcher in August, he finished the season hitting .254/.338/.474 slash line for an .813 OPS to help push the Red Wings into the playoffs. That's why he received a September call up. He's a good defensive catcher, draws walks, has some pop and runs the bases well. I'm in the Eric Fryer fan club with you
  19. While this is true, there are usually signs that point to that crash. Diminishing bat speed and strike zone discipline being the usual telltale signs. When I broke him down, I only saw marginal decline which occured after playing through an injury. He could easily have hit the DL, had his surgery, and returned when he felt healthy. If he had done this, I'm sure there would have been a different outlook on him going into this season. Instead he continued to play for 2 months only to rush back from knee surgery. I understand that his age is tied to his health, which is also tied to his performance. What I was stating is that if he starts the season healthy, signs point to him maintaining his performance to his career norms. This wasn't just a case of him declining due to age, this was a case of him playing through injury.
  20. His career Z-Swing% is skewed by his first 4 seasons in the league. His 2013 number is in line with what it's been since 2008. Actually his BB% was up over 2% from his career mark. I think this more speaks to what he has become in the last three years, with 2012 clearly being an outlier. His SwStr% went up in 2011, but so did his ISO. Trading strikeouts for power. However, it seemed like the knee injury sapped that power he relies on. This is fair. My projection was based on him being healthy, which is obviously not a given. That's why I led off that statement with if.
  21. This isn't accurate. IFBB% is in ratio to flyballs, not balls in play. It's not a great stat to look at anyway though. For example, in his good month of April, Willingham's IFBB% was actually 36.4%. The rest of the year, it was 13.4%, which is in line with his career numbers. Z-swing% doesn't tell you much in the way of decline. It speaks more to his approach. As a comparison Joe Mauer has a career 55.5% Z-swing%. The SwStr% is something to look at, but it isn't completely out of line with his previous two seasons. 9.7% - 9.5% - 10.3%. This isn't a Jason Kubel type collapse of 7.6% - 11.0% - 13.7%. Something along those lines would worry me. I think you do have to take into account that the injury sapped his power and affected his timing. It was his left knee that was injured. Take a look at this and you'll get an idea on how important that kind of injury would be to his swing. [video=youtube;O79UKaSk4Jg] Unless you just think Willingham completely lost himself, I think it's easy to correlate the injury with the decline. Especially when you consider that he had a .944 OPS prior to the injury compared to a sub .700 OPS after. That kind of stuff doesn't usually happen overnight.
  22. Great deal. Acquire a young arm, clears a 40 man spot and saves cash. Nothing to complain about.
  23. If you're looking for a lefty masher, sign Jeff Baker instead. Baker is better than Reynolds at hitting lefties. He can play the corner outfield, corner infield and second base which gives them positional flexibility off the bench. It would also allow them to move Willingham to DH against lefties.
  24. Shameless plug, but I wrote this http://twinsdaily.com/entry.php/4720-Josh-Willingham-Breaking-(him)-down on Willingham last week. Doumit was actually himself last year. The only thing that really changed was his BABIP. If his BABIP would have matched his career average, he would have had the same season as he had in 2012.
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