'Your line of thinking becomes more out there the longer this thread goes on. How is that for adding to the discussion?' Wasn't MY line of thinking...why don't you read the post again...notice I started with: Or people say:. Notice after that, I put the statement in quotes? Notice in paragraph 3 I wrote, 'HE wrote something you didn't like,' That 'something' being what you're attributing to me. If that wasn't obvious that it wasn't me saying all that, and it should have been, Dave's followup should have made it even clearer. As far as your argument goes though...yeah they got Willingham, Doumit and Carroll, and saved some money...but they lost Nathan, Cuddy and Kubel...and did nothing with the saved money. Let's not act as if they added onto the 2011 team without losing some key players....