ThePuck

Our offense issues start with who replaces our #1 and #2 hitters...our setup guys...

Problem is all we have are mid-to-back of the rotation guys...don't we have enough of those? Signing a guy like Correia doesn't fix any problems.

Yes, but don't you normally sign your better players first in FA just in case they cost a bit more than you want to spend and then fill in with players like Corriea with some of the remaining money if you have to? Your post suggest they'll go after a much better arm since we have money left to spend, but it seems unlikely to sign a guy like Corriea first and THEN make that big splash.

If only he was league average....hasn't had an ERA+ of 100 or better since 2007

And one of those factors could be...Twins don't make the best offer... Name one higher profile pitcher then that signed a FA contract with a last place team? I was adding in another possible factor to his list...since it does seem MOST players go where they get paid the most. To answer your statement, most of the teams willing to spend a good chunk on free agents aren't usually in last place...cause they get the talent. So even if it's never happened, it doesn't prove anything. Your assumption that the Twins have never made the best offer has no proof. Logic might be escaping you. Unless there is an overwhelmingly better offer and the team has drastically overpaid, or no one else wants you, why would you go to a losing small market, low media team? . There is nothing in the Twins offense or defense right now that would suggest to a pitcher that you are going to catch a break and thus have a poor record. Less money and a better record might net a bigger contract the next time. You so want to believe the Twins do not make competitive offers that it blinds you to all other possibilities. You also ignore the simple fact that playing on a losing team sucks so why would I want to go to a losing team? A big pile of money to hate life? No worse than your assumption the Twins DID offer the most money, but the pitcher decided a team that's only been bad the last two seasons isn't worth going to. It's all assumptions, you just think yours are better. All I did was say it COULD be a factor, along with the other factors given by the person who made the post I was responding to

Diamond's ERA plus last year was 115. Correia's was 88.

And one of those factors could be...Twins don't make the best offer... Name one higher profile pitcher then that signed a FA contract with a last place team? I was adding in another possible factor to his list...since it does seem MOST players go where they get paid the most. To answer your statement, most of the teams willing to spend a good chunk on free agents aren't usually in last place...cause they get the talent. So even if it's never happened, it doesn't prove anything.

Then why even get Corriea...I mean, seriously. Why? Not being a jerk, just wondering. This move doesn't get us any better, so why make it. If we're not going to even attempt to be respectable, why even make this move...and for two years

And one of those factors could be...Twins don't make the best offer...

Johan's first year with the Mets he led the majors in ERA and quality starts while leading the NL in IP (3rd in the majors). His next year he had an ERA of 3.19 and the next year he had an ERA of 2.98

Worley doesn't address that need either...and you didn't see me slamming him. In any event, we haven't addressed that need, at all...not for the present at least

Poor guy...had 30M to spend after getting Worley, was only looking for pitchers, and really only needed two more. I feel for him. He has never spent on pitching...

''We want the kind of pitchers we haven't had enough of," Twins assistant general manager Rob Antony said. "Pitchers who can miss bats."

''We want the kind of pitchers we haven't had enough of," Twins assistant general manager Rob Antony said. "Pitchers who can miss bats."

What does Diamond make again? Diamond pitched in the AL, while Marquis, er, Ponson, er, Hernandez, er...Ortiz, er, I mean Correia pitched in the NL.

Correia struck out 4.68 hitters per nine innings last year, tied for third-worst among qualified pitchers. He had the second-lowest percentage of swinging strikes in the majors.

Lowest strikeout rate among right-handed pitchers the last two years. (per Gleeman)

I notice that a lot of people seem to have this idea that they feel is fact. That idea being no pitcher wants to come play here. So many people seem to want to, in a roundabout way, defend signings like this by saying (as if it's 100% fact) that no one else wants to come here so that's the best he can do. Twins just started losing. They aren't perennial doormats. Pitchers aren't coming here because Ryan doesn't value them enough to pay what the market has become, not because Minnesota is the leper colony of the US. Most of the time, a players signs where they get the most money.

Pitches to contact...ERA over 4.20 in the NL last year...very low strikeout rate, WHIP of almost 1.300. Hasn't have a good season since 2009 (where he pitched in the NL and in one of the best pitchers parks in baseball). Will fit right in. This is more like the Terry Ryan we know and...well...

Surprisingly, only 12 of those strikeouts came against pitchers. Even pitchers can make contact on this guy. So he strikes out batters 1-8 about as much as he strikes out pitchers...oh goody

Anyone know how many of his strikeouts last year were against non-pitchers?

-He had a 4.20 ERA in the NL...less than 90Ks in the NL...a WHIP of almost 1.300 in the NL. We have pitchers like him already. -The rule 5 pickup...you give him props for picking that guy up? -And how in God's name do you see Ryan picking up a #1 starter?

Well, let's see. Best season was 4 seasons ago. Doesn't strike anybody out (even in the NL). Carries a WHIP around 1.390. Pitches to contact. Perfect

In Terry we trust?

Very likely cost them a playoff spot... Can't imagine us being in the same spot...but yeah, it cost them