TheLeviathan
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Because you can't see past your own particular political angle. I haven't started a "Lies" tally Dems vs. Repubs - perhaps you should share yours? The notion of one lie being "more" than another is purely based off of perception. We could compare lists on that all day and it wouldn't matter. You don't see the angle because your political persuasion doesn't want you to. I'll recap anyway: 1) Suggesting that people changing their minds from a debate are shallow is truly asinine. Especially given how much both parties use advertising to change minds. If you watched the debate, paid attention, and thought about it - to me that's a great thing. Regardless of political orientation. We should be pleased people are tuning in rather than disparaging them for taking it seriously. 2) The primary process presents distorted candidates - it did for McCain, Obama, Hillary, Romney, etc. It's something we're all going to have to accept as long as it's around. 3) Distortion is a common political ploy that neither party holds a monopoly on. It's absurd to suggest otherwise. 4) Obama lost that debate at a time when a decisive win could have made his re-election pretty much a given. If lefties want to come up with excuses for that I find it pathetic. Apparently, yesterday, even Obama was tired of hearing it and came out and said the same thing.
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In principle I agree. But here's the thing - aren't both bases basically forcing candidates into insane primary positions? We saw a very different Obama last year after his primary too. To me, one reason I am at least entertaining Romney is that I'm seeing the man who actually governed in a manner I can respect re-emerge. If my vote goes to that man, I guess I can forgive the primaries as a means to an end. But I'm very cautious because of what the primaries showed.
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Did a bad debate showing collectively crotch-kick the intelligence of all liberals? His point was that it was ridiculous that people got swayed by a debate that he perceives as distorted. The fact is - both sides use much shorter, much more distorted efforts to sway people CONSTANTLY. And IT WORKS. It was a stupid point that I'm hearing from lots of people on the left. If Romney was distorted and vague in a debate and it was effective - it's nothing new to politics. And it's insanely stupid to suggest otherwise. Lefties just need to accept that their guy had a bad showing. I still think he's the lead dog in the race, but he opened a door for Romney that Romney desperately needed. It had nothing to do with Romney and everything to do with his poor showing. There was nothing unique about the debate either. The excuses just get old, so I apologize if my patience with them is thin.
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First off - what the hell with the attitude? Considering some of the ridiculous notions you're floating around here I wouldn't suggest throwing stones Mr. Glass House. Second - Pseudo was claiming we could get equal of better value for him at the deadline as we can in the offseason. Given this is already a questionable premise, I'd say that, yes, it is just as like that something would go wrong and he'd be less valuable than what we dealt before the season. If you don't want to settle on just the injury risk - how about the career ERA a run higher on the road? The transition from the NL to the AL?
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You're aware that both sides utilize these things called advertisements that are less substantive, often far more hyperbolic and riddled with lies, and strategically designed to mislead far more often and far more effectively right? Just want to be sure, because - if you are aware of this - it makes your point seem a lot less reasonable.
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Given his health history, it's equally likely he has no value at the deadline.
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I'm annoyed by this "logic" because I keep hearing people say it and it just doesn't hold up once you go into any depth of thought. Again - the hype about the wildcard is "now it matters to win the division in the regular season!" and then they promptly strip that advantage to give the lower seeds the first home games. If there wasn't an advantage to starting a series at home - you wouldn't do it. But there clearly is and it was clearly earned by the higher seeds. So in the very season in which the league itself is promoting an emphasis on regular season success they strip one perk of that success away? It's stupid. The league controls scheduling, this could have been fixed without this hypocritical result.
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I would say, since teh defensive personnel is almost identical to last year, that it's fair to be cautious. I'm not sure what the difference is right now, so I'm not 100% bought-in either.
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I hadn't heard about it, it just dawned on me today that they made a change. It's so stupid given all the hype about why they expanded to a second wild card.
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Offensive improvement needed in 13??
TheLeviathan replied to greengoblinrulz's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I think the needs on offensive are being way underplayed around here largely because people have declared the poor pitching as the sole reason for our disappointing season. The fact is, this offense wasn't that great. It was pretty mediocre and there are reasons to be concerned that it overplayed it's talent level to even get that far. I'd target Yunel Escobar via trade and Jeff Keppinger as a possible starter, but for sure as a guy that can hit lefties and play either MI position. Escobar gives you the chance of an option for a few seasons down the line and Keppinger would just be a good fit with his versatility. -
Ok, am I crazy or is the idea of changing the playoff structure to emphasize the value of the regular season totally undermined when you let the lower seeds have homefield the first two games of the first round? It's insane that Oakland is already in do or die mode and haven't even had a home playoff game yet. What on earth were they thinking?
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Wow.....this defense is for real. Is it the talent or is the new coordinator just really mixing it up well? It's pretty much the same team plus Harrison Smith and Brinkley and Cook - are they making THIS much of a difference?
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Article: How full is your Minnesota Twins glass?
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
And until May most people thought he was AAA filler. And people keep saying nothing went well..... -
Was it really more abstract than any other debate? I guess I'm not familiar with detailed debates, the time frame usually makes them about principles not details. In fact, I thought this debate was refreshingly more nuanced than most. Both candidates tried to get specific when talking about particular legislation. In my eyes, this was one of the better debates I can remember for talking specifically rather than broadly. The devil is in the details so it's probably not best to evaluate policy changes by debates anyway. But it's hard, as someone who believes being practical is important, not to strongly favor Romney's abstract take on Dodd-Frank for instance. Now I know that he has backdoor intentions and part of this isn't genuine, but his argument was "regulation is ok, but not all regulation is ok. Sometimes, some part of legislation are bad" to which Obama basically replied "well better to do something bad than nothing." Which A) doesn't answer the question and is pretty much in line with every liberal driven policy change on social welfare, college funding, etc. It's admitting your own legislation's awful unintended consequences, throwing up your hands, shrugging, and blaming someone else. Good god. That, for me, totally encapsulates the problem with the left. I'm still probably going to throw my vote away on some third party or write-in, but Romney at least got me interested in seeing how long this Rational Romney is going to stay around.
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No one is requiring you to change your mind about candidates but even hard leftwingers were calling that a blowout for Romney. What surprised me jim was that we saw Gov Romney last night who seemed to care less about appealing to the Hannity-type base of the party. I think that was a huge part of why he destroyed most of the meager Obama attacks. He seemed magnimous, rational, and more prepared than Obama on every front. I think it was just how much better he was than Obama, I didn't expecft it to be that lopsided.
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I liked Romney's crack about how Obama kept saying his plan had no details and then attacked details. He seemed quick witted and pretty decisive in the way he attacked Obama's differences from him. It was a surprisingly effective debate for Romney.
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Article: Minnesota Twins 2012 Season Review
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
A couple issues with this Nick. I think it's pretty clear Willingham probably had the best year of his career and quite likely a season he will never repeat again. I don't want to split hairs over "way over his head", but let's face it - we won't get this season again. I'm with you on Parmalee, but part of what you've suggested is that we'll be better about taking advantage of our OBP but Parmalee only sees the field if we move one of those OBP strengths. (Span) How much more do you expect Revere to progress? As you've suggested, what he's done is what he's been doing in the minors. Do you expect him to excel beyond that past at the major league level? Morneau has been great, but I can't count on that. And all this and we're still talking a below average AL offense. I think people have really inflated this offense's capability by juxtaposing it against the starting staff. That isn't the best way to judge it IMO. -
Romney held his own pretty well tonight no? Better than I would've thought at least, maybe it was more an off-night for Obama, but a tad surprising.
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Article: Minnesota Twins 2012 Season Review
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not to be a contrarian, but I'm less encouraged this year than last year. Last year at least you could point to massive injury issues derailing the team. But this year they were the worst team in the AL and most of their lack of "luck" was in a rotation that was suspect going into the year. (Hell, I'd argue many of the guys we replaced our "bad luck" with were better anyway!) This offense was not even in the top half of the AL even with a remarkably healthy group, a few surprising players to emerge, and a couple career years. And that's the group we are counting on to be "capable" enough to make a playoff run? Yeek. No, to me this team is worse off than they were a year ago at this time. Worst in the AL, fairly lucky season for health and individual production, no impact talent in the high minors for at least part if not all of next season, and a high degree of unlikelihood of major free agent signings? Yeah, I'm not more encouraged. -
Article: How full is your Minnesota Twins glass?
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Well said, I've been saying this at BYTO for years. I hate the "throw everything in for one chance" model. I'd much rather have a gun loaded with multiple bullets than one silver one. On this subject - very much empty. This team was 15-20 games worse than what it needed to be to be a playoff team and that was with a number of things going well. People who convince themselves that this offense can carry a team next year with a future pitcher additions are going to be sadly disappointed. -
Well, part of the issue there is that the months that Plouffe wasn't a rockstar - he was worse than "slightly below average". I can handle average with surges - that's a good ballplayer. Putrid most of the year a Ruthian stretch is not what I want in an everyday player. In part, because it isn't very reliable.
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Right, which I'm not willing to write him off as just a fluke. His minor league numbers suggest a 700ish OPS is attainable but if it's the way he did it this year that isn't what we want. (4 pretty bad months and 1 ridiculously good month isn't what you want in an everyday starter) The fact that he can play a position defensively is the real boon to this year. It at least allows us to try him out.
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Yeah that was my read on Ponder too. He was way too conservative and really jumpy. I watched the game again and the guy just really seemed to be feeling pressure that wasn't there. It's hard to know what the receivers were or were not doing when he seemed to shift his eyes to the pressure almost immediately, often even when his protection was fine.
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First off - on what do you base that Jenkins is awful? Second, Ponder averaged 4.3 yards per attempt. That's miserably awful. 111 yards against the same defense that Jake Locker and a less impressive group of skill players lit up for almost 400 yards is a miserable egg. Back off your instinct to be an apologist. It was a step backward after a major step forward, that's what it was.
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yeah, he's definitely got potential. With no one pushing him next year (and since I think we'll not be very good again anyway) - roll him out there and see if he can turn that fluke into a more consistent level of production. I just can't take much away from this season other than that he's fielding a position capably for the first time since he was promoted. Offensively this season was pretty bad more often than it was pretty good, but it's a step forward from what we had seen.
