First, speaking of inane - the idea that "Democracy" is buying politicians is about as inane as I can imagine. Vote what you want. Having an iron grip on Congress because you are an extremely powerful lobby? I don't support that no matter what the issue is. And it sure as hell ain't Democracy. The 2nd amendment clearly states that arms are there for militia purposes which are clearly to be regulated by the government. Especially since the right is stated as being contingent upon the need for a militia. Which isn't some re-framing, when the Constitution was written the intention of the amendment was to allow individual white men to own a gun so that, when called on, they could come armed to protect the country. It was never about inscribing an individual right - that came about through Constitutional interpretation later. You should read this, it includes detailed notes from Madison and other framers that basically says the current interpretation is a complete load of bull. And that bull and the inability to acknowledge that you don't have to be The Punisher is why these debates happen. The NRA can't even suggest compromises that might, you know, prevent no-fly potential terrorists from having conceal and carry permits. There are plenty of mechanisms for it. He was born in New York long before 9/11 - so no, it wouldnt' have worked. It also does nothing for the white kid who stole his mother's guns to massacre six year olds. And yes, the second is flimsy for a variety of reasons - most notably for the fact that even if you did it, the effects would be impossible to measure and take a generation of people not witnessing it to probably even notice. You sacrifice your free speech every day by accepting a whole host of speech you aren't allowed. You sacrifice your unadulterated right to freedom at someone else's nose every day by accepting where your rights end and their rights begin. Hell, to be specific, you've accepted bazookas shouldn't be allowed for the betterment of society. And most importantly, among those "inalienable rights" is your pursuit of happiness - which again MUST end where it infringes on others. Gun culture is not only infringing on the happiness of others, it's taking the most inalienable rights of all - life. As for this issue, let's be clear about your contribution so far - you're going to sit here and say "Nope, not guns!" but offer no solutions? And when asked, you just respond with lame devil's advocate hypotheticals? You're not doing yourself any favors being taken seriously. Cmon - actual solutions. Not hypotheticals.