TheLeviathan
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I don't know, i didn't really mind having Sale around. I'm more disappointed the White Sox did something smart.
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You're right and that was part of what I considered. Big picture the ideologies drive the party. Clearly right wing ideology, the extreme ends, has been more effective the last few decades.
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On reflection, I think I talk more in terms of ideology and people talk more in terms of party. I think there is a big distinction there (mostly because both parties are corrupt elitists that really don't represent anyone but themselves), but I think that causes a lot of disconnect. I'll try to talk more in terms of party, but I'm not sure that's always helpful.
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You're probably right and I do think we've shifted right of center as well. I said in the election thread that I thought Clinton was a moderate. I still do, I wouldn't classify her as "left". Hell, I'm a small government, free choice libertarian. I feel like a liberal these days.
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This may also be helpful to show my point. He's wittier than I am.
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I keep making these statements because most of you are left-wingers that have struggled throughout this campaign to identify your side's issues and your side's role in the problems. Believe me, I do the same on the other side, but all of you have chased those people away here. You've made it a comfy like-fest for your own echochamber. Maybe I'm pushing back too hard, but I'm one of the few left here with even a moderate point of view. So sorry that you don't like to hear it, but perhaps you should. It's not like I was wrong during the campaigns, I was calling many of the issues that ultimately came to a head and we ended up with Trump. I like to think it's much easier to fix the camp you're in. (And after many holiday conversations with more right-leaning family members of my own, I believe that more than ever) I don't disagree that right-wing controlled states are worse. I work in one now, believe me, I get it. I miss Minnesota. I said, in response to you, that there is not an equivalency. The right is pushing for things like school choice that I adamantly oppose. The right demeans the profession more often, as you've stated. I agree. But at the same time, even back in Minnesota, the Democrats aren't exactly fighting the right causes either. They're pushing just a milder version of the same thing. What I'd like to see the left do is stand up for decoupling education from property taxes, but how many affluent people of any political persuasion, are standing up for that?
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I was directly responding to a comment by Vanimal about NCLB when you decided to plant some talking point. There is a common misconception that Bush went rogue on education and implemented some right-wing ideal. All he did (and Obama has followed suit) is follow a chain of progression in the works for a long time. The in-the-classroom effects have been a bi-partisan effort. While one party's rhetoric may be more harsh on education on a wider level, but both ideologies are pushing things the way they are now. Both sides are stifling free speech and the free exchange of ideas. Both parties are full of elites who want to stay that way. It's just neither side recognizes it in their own house because it's easier to blame the other side.
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Official Winter Meetings Monday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Was more my pessimism as a Minnesota fan speaking than anything.- 70 replies
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Well, you sort of just said what I said and you disagreed with, Take away the stakes - that's the problem. Standardized tests, in conjunction with other forms of evaluation I do day to day and week to week, inform my practice. They also allow, on a larger scale, for schools to look for things that other comparable districts are doing to inform their process. If every school does it's own thing and there is no standardized way of evaluating, then we have no data to judge if our process is successful but our own. So, yes, tests do try to simplify a complex set of issues into a data set. As one tool for evaluation of the process, they are helpful. None of the things you said are untrue, but they're only part. There are other parts where that data IS meaningful to the process. I've made this argument many times for others in my own field. The problem isn't the tests. We need those in their own way. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water because they do have value. The problem is the stakes and the way they approached politically. But that distinction is important.
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That's awesome and then horrible. Stupid nonsense.
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The evaluation can, and should be part of informing the process.
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Their rhetoric isn't as harsh, but their policies that effect my classroom have been similar for over twenty years and spanning multiple administrations. Science denial exists on the left too. The right is leading the charge, it isn't equal, but these issues aren't one sided. And, from only my personal experience, lefty parents are nothing to applaud either.
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Official Winter Meetings Monday Thread
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This is all setting us up for a massive let down when Dozier is not dealt for a franchise saving trade.- 70 replies
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I wouldn't ignore scouting reports, but I'd take them with a huge grain of salt. They are, afterall, a massive operation in obscuring a small sample as representative enough to draw conclusions. (In most cases. I grant that some guys do actually see them play many times to give their opinion. But the vast majority do not) I also put minimal stock in defensive numbers or scouting reports on minor leaguers. I don't think they are very useful at all unlike hitting and pitching statistics.
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It doesn't hurt to listen. It might just be a farce, but it's better than outright contempt right?
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NCLB is only the natural progression of what has been happening for years. Obama did much the same. Don't think this is Republican based, I disagree with Mike there. I think this is elite vs. non-elite. More of a class issue. And standardized tests are not the problem. We need standards and standardized outcomes. Otherwise Mississippi and those kinds of states will still think it's ok to teach Creationism and not Evolution. The problem with the tests are the stakes. They should be a tool to drive education, not to punish offenders.
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I like to think we probably look like a crazy mashup of those four photos. (But mostly the second one....)
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I don't know how coherent this will be, but here goes. This may sound odd, but I don't think it really is education at all. I think we have, as a society (perhaps even globally) started to disconnect from each other more and more. We're also much more selfish and self-centered as a whole. There was a time when education and parenting were done as a community and now we reject that notion in many places. Now we isolate ourselves and reject anyone else's advice or input. I mean, we certainly haven't gotten less logical or more superstitious than we were when we were burning witches and doing all kinds of other stupid, crazy crap. What i think we lack is an effort to find commonality and compromise. That's something education can help with, but it start at home and in our communities. It's my opinion that people don't ignore logic, facts, or good sense because they don't prize those things, but what they do is they look for the logic, facts, and good sense that agree with them already. We're all guilty of it to varying degrees, but when you combine a disdain for different opinions with the personal disconnect you get a situation in which people feel they are different and have no common ground and also believe no such common ground can be had regardless of their effort. And that gulf is one that is nearly impossible to bridge.
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I think many kids do still value education and facts, but they rank well, well below social media. Which makes them just like their parents, celebrities, and everyone else. The key is to co-opt social media in productive ways. (I teach lower elementary and we have a blog and a variety of other online ways we interact) Oh, and most importantly, adults need to get their *&$% together.
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As an educator I think I can say safely that we are not opposed to radical and rebellious reform. We may quibble about the hows and the whats, but we're open to it. But to oppose social media, terrible parenting, and the trends that have swept adults of all walks much less children? It's going to take a lot more than educators for that. Hell, it takes a lot more than just us to educate and raise your children too, but we're not getting much help there either. Not you specifically of course, but you know that Barky,
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I guess it depends if you think Vielma can be more than a terrible hitter.
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Hmmm, that doesn't surprise me. But it would make things hard.
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Vielma's glove may be ready, but his bat isn't. Assuming Dozier is traded I think it's Escobar or someone we acquire.
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IP logs?
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Finding, identifying, and pleading with TROLPO to have his own thread here is a mission of mine. Brock...how can we do this? Got any access to the old stuff?
