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Nope. On the way to the veteran's committee... last year for him

I agree that the Twins need a lefty not named Diamond or Albers at this point. I'd rather see them go after someone like Capuano as a stop-gap for a couple of seasons if they have to. And the system is really poor as far as mid rotation plus LHSP prospects go. I can only see Gonsalves fit the bill at this point, but he is still 2 years away of being able to buy beer for himself. Not sure about Darnell and Dean and Rogers; they look like 5-6 starters to me, much like Diamond and Albers. Melotakis is a question mark and Thorpe a baby. That said, you cannot trade the only pitcher in your organization with Ace potential who is ringing the MLB doorbell and you can control for 6 years.

I'd add Meyer to the Sano and Buxton list at this point. Matter of fact, I am not sure that Price's next 6 seasons (the amount of seasons the Twins have control of Meyer) will be better than Meyer's next 6 seasons. I'd actually think that opposite will happen. The big issue with a Price (and Bailey) and another upcoming FA SP trade is to get them to sing a long term contract (like the Mets did with Santana) which will not cripple the team. In Price's case, I don't see that being a realistic possibility because it will take something like $5-6/100-130M, which the Twins should not do. So I think that it is a no-go from the beginning...

Arcia might even be better than LoMo, offering similar skillset, as soon as 2014 and he is a much more likable guy for sure. Let the Mariners and the like have him.

Thanks. Totally agree, it is about the players and not the rankings. As far a Deibi Romero goes, I did clarify that a lot of people might think that he is too old and does not belong in any prospect lists. It was a gut call because he will be knocking the majors' door this Spring and would had last Spring other than the fire and the paperwork situation. My cut off is whether someone has made it to the majors. If not, he can be in my list. I bet there are lists out there with Albers, Pressly, Thielber. All the same age as Romero. I have either seen Colabello, who is 2 years older in a list. Just calls, but they are have the same goal in my mind: celebrating the players and learning a little bit about them, especially the ones lesser known, like Romero.

This is pretty unique from that respect this season. I really expect more trades (and not FA signings) in the Winter meetings. Easier to sing free agents over the phone, harder to do trades...

Yeah. My bad. It is $3.5 not 2.5M. Still the going price for a bench bat these days.

Doumit would be a great PH and bench player for an NL contending team. And his $2.5M contract is about at that level and pretty good value for that role. If the Twins cannot trade him, they can Blackburn him.

Tell me how you feel about Perkins as a closer? or how you felt after Nathan's or Aguilera's first 3 seasons as closers? Or even Rivera's for that matter... Do they pitched significant innings to tell? Or relief innings are 3 times as significant as start innings?

Qualify "amazing"? Think about what Matt Moore (who is one year younger) is worth, and how "amazing" his last season was, and then look at this: xFIP 2011 Anderson: 3.66; Moore: 1.85 2012 Anderson: 3.06; Moore: 4.32 2013 Anderson: 3.26; Moore: 4.35 SIERA 2011 Anderson: 3.61; Moore: 1.18 2012 Anderson: 3.10; Moore: 4.08 2013 Anderson: 3.31; Moore: 4.31 Plus Anderson in a Leftie. The issue with Anderson is that he is in his last year of Arbitration (4th he was a super 2) and in order to get value you need to trade and agree to a longer term contact before the trade.

forget the "now" part. TR never made this kind of a move. The much maligned Bill Smith made those moves... Ryan has a hard time trading prospects. He has traded young players who were at the MLB level, like Kielty but not prospects.

How about this for not-hindsight: Ryan should trade May, Berrios, Danny Santana and a couple more prospects while they still have value.

Cannot trade Gonsalves (or Stewart for that matter) until a year after they signed... Late summer

In a heartbeat. But not sure that this would be enough

Prospects prospects prospects. You know at some point you got to trade them when high enough, otherwise they become what the Twins' minor league pitcher of the year award winners (other than Gibson) became. I have no issue trading any tradeable (ie. Steward, Eades, Gonsalves are not) prospect not named Sano, Meyer or Buxton for Anderson. Funny enough, the Twins are having a jam of RHSP in their prospect ranks and it is certain that some of them will not pan out. May, Berrios, Felix Jorge, et al. You got Meyer, Gibson, Nolasco and Hughes ahead of them, so you got to trade them when they still have value...

Originally published at The Tenth Inning Stretch ---- This is the fifth segment of the 2014 off-season Twins top 40 prospects, counting down prospects 31 to 35. Prospects 36-40 are here, 31-35 here, 26-30 here , 21-25 here and you can find all segments in reverse order here. The number 16 to 20 off-season 2014 Minnesota Twins prospects are: 20. Brian Gilbert, RHRP, DOB: 8/12/1992, 6'1", 215 lbs. The Twins selected Brian Gilbert in the 7th round of the 2013 draft from Seton Hall University. Gilbert was the closer at Seton Hall and continued his 2013 season in Elizabethton, where he pitched in just 5 games (6 IP) allowing a single hit before was promoted to Cedar Rapids. All in all he pitched in 18 games (23 Innings) in his pro career with a 0.78 ERA, 0.609 WHIP, walking just that one batter in E-town and striking out 14. Gilbert's weapons are a plus fastball that hits up to 96 mph, a plus slider that he commands very well and he throws at any count, and an "attack the hitter", 'bulldog' mentality. Gilbert will likely start the season as the Fort Myers closer. He has the stuff, approach and mentality to move fast in the organization, potentially reaching the majors in 2015. He will not start, but has MLB closer potential. 19. Zach Jones, RHRP, DOB: 12/4/1990, 6'1", 185 lbs. Zach Jones was selected by the Twins in the 4th round of the 2012 draft from San Jose State University. Another hard throwing reliever to be selected in that draft, Jones will not be converted to a starter, unlike some of his draft mates. After he was drafted, Jones made 2 stops last summer, in Elizabethon for 6 games and at Beloit for 12. He finished the season with 20 IP in both levels, 2.25 ERA, 1.1 WHIP, 34 Ks and 11 BBs. He spend the whole 2013 season as the primary closer at Fort Myers, pitching in 39 games (48.7 IP) to a 1.85 ERA (2.71 FIP) and 1.151 WHIP. He struck out 70 and walked 28. He was rewarded with an AFL representation where he had a very short but unremarkable performace this Fall (7G, 6IP, 9BB, 9K, 3HR, 18 ERA). A couple of fun, little known facts about Zach Jones: He did play as a DH for 3 years in San Jose State where he accumulated a .300/.378/.453 slash line with 2 HR in 136 ABs. Also, a certain statistics web site suggests that he played for the independent Nortwest League Yakima Bears as a Catcher during his college years. That was another Zach Jones His best tool is his fastball, which is the best in the organization according to BA and it is truly a plus plus pitch. It sits between 96-98 and touches triple digits. His delivery is very deceptive, but there is some effort to it. He complements his fastball with a curve that is above average. Control has been his biggest issue. If he simplifies his delivery, improves his control and develops a third pitch (change?) he is an All-star closer material. That is 3 ifs in a row, but his floor is higher than Jimmy Hoey. He will likely start 2014 as the New Britain closer with a fast track to Rochester and a potential September call up. Will not be surprised if he is invited to the big club's Spring Training as a non-roster invitee. 18. Lewis Thorpe LHSP, DOB: 11/23/1995, 6'1", 160 lbs. Lewis Thorpe is the second youngest player in this top 40 list and just turned 18. He was signed on July of 2012 to the largest bonus ever given for an Australian player , $500,000. He played his first professional season in the Gulf Coast League last summer, pitching 44 innings between 8 starts and 4 relief appearances. He had a 2.05 ERA (1.43 FIP) striking out 64 and walking just 6. His 38% K% and 10.7 K/BB are just phenomenal at any level, especially if you are 17 and still growing. He has 3 pitches and are all above average: A fastball that sits in the low 90s (that is up about 5 mph in a year), a curve and a changeup. Also has a very good feel for the game, an effortless delivery, and is still growing. He is one of the top leftie talents in the Twins' organization and will likely start 2014 in Elizabethton. 17. Adam Walker, RH, OF, DOB: 10/18/1991, 6'5", 225 lbs Adam Walker by the Minnesota Twins in the 3rd round of the 2012 Draft from Jacksonville University. He started his pro career that season in Elizabethton, making a seamless transition to the wooden bat, hitting .250/.310/.496 with 14 HRs in 58 games. In the 2013 season he was promoted to Cedar Rapids where he stayed the whole season. In 129 games (553 PA) he hit .278/.319/.526 with 27 HR and 109 RBI. Power is Walker's most obvious tool (.246 and .248 IsoP in the last two seasons, age 20 and 21) and will likely increase. He played mostly first base in college and made the transition to full time OF (RF) in the pros. Walker is an adequate corner outfielder, even though his arm is weak, and has some speed. His contact and selectiveness tools need work; his K% drop from 30.2% in 2012 to 20.8 % is encouraging. If he improves his contact he can be an All-Star corner outfielder (likely left fielder) in the majors. Will likely start the 2014 (age 22) season in Fort Myers. 16. Max Kepler LH, OF/1B, DOB: 2/10/1993, 6'4", 180 lbs Max Kepler was singed by the Twins as an amateur free agent from Germany in 2009. He received a $800,000 bonus, the highest ever for a European baseball player. Kepler is one of those prospects who is well known by people who follow the Twins, so I will not get into an in depth introduction, but I will talk move about his ranking here. A lot of people have Kepler as a top 10 prospect, based on pure potential, but this season he took a step back. He is still ranked as a top 20 prospect, which is a pretty big thing in this rich system. After 4 years as a pro, to be a top prospect you have to be close to reach this potential and Kepler other than his repeat season in Elizabethton in 2012 has not. An elbow injury held him back this season allowing him to play only 61 games with Cedar Rapids (the most in his 4 year pro career) and of those 24 at first base and 7 as a DH. He hit an anemic .237/.312/.424 with 9 HRs and 40 RBI with a 24/43 ration. He played at the Arizona Fall League as a first baseman where he was totally overmatched (.234/.306/.313). He was added to the 40 man roster this fall before the Rule 5 draft. His young age (20) and flashing of power (and he is still growing) is what kept him this high in the prospect list. Unless he comes out in Spring Training bashing, he will likely repeat the Midwest League with an early promotion to Fort Myers in 2014. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8605999837_4df2c7b187_z.jpg Next: 11-15

Let me put this on other terms: You get a new job to a new company on a Monday. All the negotiations and agreements have been made between your headhunter and their HR people. On Friday there is a press release that you are hired and your first day at the job. That is the first day you meet your boss. What does that say?

That's what I call Ryan, same way I call Gardenhire the "manager of the millennium".

Gets even better, here is this tweet from Mike Berardino. No wonder Hughes looked kinda stressed in that presser... Plus this speaks volumes for the First Scout.

If you have a change, take a listen back to his talk with Mackey and Reusse at 1500. Much more natural. Heck. He might had to go to the bathroom during the press conference.

Albers Colabello Mastroianni Fryer Thielbar Diamond (but I'd be on the phones trying to work a trade for the last 2 and Fien before waivers)

An out pitch might had serve him well too. Interesting fact, the 3 SP leaders in K% in the Twins' rotation are gone now (DeVries, Hendriks, Pelfrey)

Is Trout in the Twins' organization? HUGE difference on how the Twins and the Angels move their players up.

Really did not see this coming, thought there were others on the 40-man who would go before him

I am withholding judgement on Turner until I see him this coming Spring Training. If you ask BA, they will tell you that Herrmann is the number one defensive catcher it this point. I am sure that this is the case and I do like Herrmann and his versatility a lot especially if he makes better contact in the majors. Koch is a catcher period, much like Pinto, and looks and works like a catcher. These days Danny Rohlfing should be in the depth discussion as well, but he has contact issues and game calling issues, but has some pop and can play OF. Kyle Knudson very much the same.