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  1. Yes. And I made essentially the same point about SSS to the proponents of this acquisition. Regardless, the point I was responding to concerning Raley's potetial even as a replacement player has very little support from Raley's career numbers, both major and minor league, that should have caused anyone to infer and proclaim that he represented a legitimate source of help to the pitching staff, whether as a Loogy, long reliever or Starter. If he works out, great, but taking up a roster spot with his set of credentials will prove to be a waste, IMHO. Even still, the organization got our hopes up that they were in dogged pursuit of filling that roster spot with the likes of a Garza, and failing that, an Arroyo, and failing that, a Suk min-Yoon. Quite a long way down from those 3.
  2. Jim Souhan is severely under-represented, comparing Miguel Sano to Miguel Cabrera has to be one of his least preposterous quotes.
  3. If it was a UFC match, they'd stop the fight the moment PA entered the ring- in the interest of public safety from the preponderance of preposterous.
  4. Low threshold bar set for "viability" at the upper levels, methinks, "more shoring" up is in order for the Twins, hope they keep watching that waiver wire for something better and doing things more productive than merely getting "payback" on the Cubs. I'll be surprised if we get positive WAR from any of the upper levelees.
  5. FWIW, "expert" Jim Callis has Eric Johnson @ 70 and Berrios @ 90. On the Royals, for once we generally agree:jump:, although re-signing Shields would make the Royals assuming the mantle as the main contender much more likely. The Tigers have done themselves well in beginning the extrication from impossible contracts. But more importantly, they have been extremely deft at trading their expendable prospects for better players, plus they will sign the extra FA or two to put them over the top- so as long as the current willing ownership and GM philosophy remain intact, they will remain formidable contenders.
  6. That is really good to hear. A chance at getting his 2011 numbers (ERA+ 127) in the #5 spot in the rotation would be a huge shot in the arm to the rotation. And it gives the Twins more options going forward (like possibly moving Hughes to the bullpen, trading Correia sooner rather than later, trading Worley from a position of strength rather than weakness, trading one of the pitching prospects to fill one of the other holes, etc.).
  7. Has anything happened in the offseason with Worley to upgrade his current Blackburn-like, limbo-status?
  8. But that begs the question the other way and is challengeable from one line of logic- how do you get to be a contender, if your best players that are your main best hope in becoming contenders are being purposely held back from being "broken in?" What if the Twins aren't within shouting dstance of being contenders in 2014, or then yet again, in 2015? Would you be willing to wait to call up a guy who "apprently has the stuff to be the staff ace" until 2016?
  9. Can you extrapolate one step further, Halsey? Is he looking good enough to fill the Jamey Carroll utility role, or is he regaining some semblance of his game level from 2009?
  10. The only thing that makes sense IMO is that the Twins expect Raley to pass through waivers and that they expect that multiple pitchers currently on the roster are not in the longer term plans. ie, Correia will be dealt before the deadline, Deduno in doubt on his health status, Diamond and Worley either dealt for PTBNL or DFAd. That's 5 spots that soon could be opened up right there.
  11. Based on your list, sans Sulbaran, lack of lefties is still an organizational weakness.
  12. I'm counting on just such an event as being the capstone on this thread when Raley somehow manages to clear waivers.
  13. Robertson and Raley, 6 months apart in age. Similar major league experience. Identical salary structure. Both would take up a roster spot. Robertson much better against lefties with higher velocity.
  14. Maybe the Twins will get another shot at Yoon when the Orioles void his contract?:
  15. I agree with his relative youth and option flexibility as good points with the little downside argument, except that he occupies a roster space. I would hope that Seth is on the right track here, and that the Twins attempt to run him through waivers again. Also, your sample size is extremely small, negative as well as positive results show up amongst those SSS numbers. His MLB career FIP against lefties is 5.40 and against righties is 6.92. His larger sample minor league numbers are about the same versus both left and right, not suggesting a strong LOOGY candidate--- They may as well have never released Tyler Robertson- both his minor and major league numbers are much better against lefties than Raley. (Anyone nostalgic about the Tyler Robertson era?) Against both sides, at the MLB level, he also has given up very high Iso power numbers of .210 and .234. http://minorleaguecentral.com/player?pid=548384&split=3000
  16. I was with you until the bolded statement. In truth, Raley is a "below-replacement-level" pitcher (BRef WAR -0.9 FRef WAR -0.6). The definition of a wasted roster-filling space if he ends up sticking with the organization.
  17. Apples and Oranges?, not really for Raley- 107 career minor league appearances, 102 starts. 5 major league appearances in 2012, 5 starts. (25 of 27 2013 appearances in AAA were also starts, the guy's job has been as a starter until his 9 lousy relief appearances for the Cubs last year.) Apples or Oranges, no....Prime Rib versus a Soup Bone, yes.
  18. Michael Wacha got a 3-start debut, with mixed results starting in late May at age 21, less than a year after being drafted. He was called up again in August, making 7 relief appearances, with only one clinker. Then he was moved to the rotation in September for 5 starts and only 1 clinker. Kevin Gausman was drafted the year after Meyer and made his debut last May at age 22. Starting didn't go so well, but he became a very effective reliever in 15 appearances. Is there any reason not to pursue a similar strategy with Meyer? Move Diamond or Worley when the time is right, the Twins should have all of Spring Training and at least the first couple months of the season to get this done. It may turn out that "losing them for nothing" means that's all that they are worth.
  19. As suggested in the Top 100 Fangraphs article, there seems to be a trend away from this type of thinking, although the emphasis in the article was with high school arms. But maybe even moreso with high-end college arms? Meyer is 24 now and it appears that his stuff is the best the Twins have to offer-- right now. I don't see anything too financially damaging to the club by letting a potential ace get his feet wet this year so that contending becomes a more viable option in 2015- if he's showing mastery of AAA, why not call him up after the arb deadline date this year? That still gives you team control of Meyer through age 30. My feeling is that with all the hemming and hawing on Gibson's consistency last year, by the time he came up, his TJ-recovering arm was already in full fatigue-mode. Who knows, if he had been called up in May when his arm was still fresh, he could have been less of a question mark and more of a sure thing for the rotation, meaning that the Twins could have redirected their FA money on a better target. Regardless, Gibson got his feet wet and made some crystal-clear-in-the-light-of-day discoveries of MLB hitters on what he needed to work on to make the rotation in 2014.
  20. Not a big vote of confidence for Scott Diamond. Why not just sign Chris Capuano?
  21. Go over to the Hulet article, where the author posits that there is a trend for clubs to move their top end pitchers through the developmental phase faster and are willing to put up with a year or two with a top prospect performing at a 5th starter level, so as to theoretically take advantage of having more of their potential top-performing years under cost-controlled scenarios, plus the big club can keep closer tabs on the health and mechanical issues when with the major league club. (Dylan Bundy, Archie Bradley, Robert Stephenson and Jose Fernandez come quickly to mind,and that was just 2011).
  22. How about 296 feet down the line? http://stuffnobodycaresabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Yankee-Stadium-1943-World-Series.jpg
  23. Quite a different take on the expectations for Stewart's career arc than Keith Law, and obviously high on fast-tracking Buxton, based on this quote from Hulet: ".........it seems as though clubs, for the most part, are also more willing to aggressively push their top prospects (especially pitchers) through their systems — with players such as Jose Fernandez, Michael Wacha, Archie Bradley and Robert Stephenson as recent examples. In the case of the pitchers, it could be a matter of front offices wanting to ensure the players’ most effective seasons occur at the big league level during cost-controlled years while also ensuring the club can closely monitor their investments in an effort to mitigate injuries." I hope the Twins go into Buxton's and Stewart's development phase with this kind of end-result as the objective, and have less concern for "consistency."
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