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Excellent point. As we've debated over and over on countless threads, it's highly unlikely that either Twins player will ever be a starter in their career on any team other than a bottom-feeder.

That's simply not true about Mauer- there was a legion of fans and writers (but not Patrick Reusse) who pointed out: -how the mega-signing might cripple the team from making further moves, -and that it was highly unlikely that he could stay at the position for the bulk of the contract, making it difficult to realize value on the life of the deal. And there were many of us that called for Burton to be moved at his peak and/or definitely not signed for more than a year at a time. For aging relief pitchers, in this case, already back from oblivion at least once in his career, a very questionable move. RPs have to be the easiest and cheapest commodity to accumulate- your own failed starting pitchers, guys you draft specifically to relieve, waiver wire claims and the huge, huge annual offseason recycling bin.

Not sure if that's true, let's put it to the test: Avg. SS slash line 2012-13: .255/.309/.371/.680 Average Average Nunez slash line 2012-13: .267/.313/.377/.690 A Bit Above Average Dozier slash line 2012-14: .237/.300/.387/.687 A Bit Above Average Punto slash line 2012/14: .240/.327/.305/.632 Below Average Brendan Harris slash 12/14: .206/.253/.355/.607 Below Average Florimon slash line 2012/14: .213/.274/.315/.589 Bad Escobar slash line 2012/14: .228/.280/.306/.586 Bad Nearly 100 points in OPS below "average." Only Clint Barnes and Brendan Ryan have lower levels of hitting futility since 2012.

Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan was a liberal intellectual darling from New York. He worked with both Kennedy and Johnson in constructing the framework for the War on Poverty. Even as it was being implemented by LBJ, Moynihan published the scholarly "Moynihan Report" and "Beyond the Melting Pot", warning of possible unintended consequences from overt government intervention: http://aapss.org/news/2009/05/25/william-julius-wilson-on-daniel-patrick-moynihan-s-agenda-setting-contributions-to-social-science Some sources claim that Moynihan was the first victim of "PC", largely because of these works (http://prospect.org/article/moynihan-enigma). Moynihan (wisely for his future political fortunes) abandoned study in this area, leaving it to fewer and lesser-quality scholars for further research. His work in this area became focused on job skill training, but the damage of the Great Society was already baked in the cake. The first casualty was the Truth, the second, to future race relations, but the greatest casualty was to generation after generation of Americans mired in the very cycle of poverty that the War on Poverty was supposed to eradicate.

Good find. And when you've even (apparently) lost steadfast Gardy in your corner, you're obviously not batllin' your tail off enough to keep your job.

Unfortunately, he's had 9 years of pro ball to try to turn his "IFs" from Whiffs and into Hits and Walks. I think the Twins have come to the conclusion that it just isn't going to happen. Perhaps Goin has shown the braintrust that Flori's history is deterministic and the cost/benefit ratio of what it means to the 2014 Twins to keeping P-Flo on the field just isn't going to work. I think he still has value as a late-inning utility guy, and it's probably time to let him build his skill-set at the other positions by using his remaining option and getting him back on the farm for a spell.

A million people is one million too many, but your last statement doesn't square with the last statement of the first post. And I would suggest that by your definition of "significant", that the other party is even more significant: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/10/the_democratic_partys_long_history_of_racism.html To show how silly the depths the debate has morphed into, Malcolm X, who has ascended to equal status, as a Civil Rights hero and martyr, to Martin Luther King, held these views: * Malcolm X viewed affirmative action and welfare as means to re-enslave Black people. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i... * He was an avid gun owner * As a Muslim, he viewed homosexuality as a vile sin. (Naturally, he'd consider a Black person who supported "gay marriage" or open homosexuality in the military to be a fool.) * Malcolm X held Democrats in contempt. (He wasn't fond of the GOP either): Sounds like the views he espoused are widely held by a certain segment of people today who instead of being championed, are held in vile contempt.

Fellow Libertarian, you nailed it, through clever manipulation of the language, the term "racism" has completely lost its meaning relative to where we stood in the 1960s on the term. The stifling of free speech is the greatest impediment to getting past the current conundrum we face with regards to race relations

Well stated, Levi. From what you've disclosed in past posts, your employment background and life experiences and mine bear some similarities. I lived and worked in education and academia in the city of Chicago for many years, a one party, all-Democratic town- the level of racism from all ethnicities and races- was/likely still is- as high or higher than just about any place in the country you can name. Despite record per/pupil spending in education, not only are the majority of public school kids not being trained in functional, job-retaining literacy, our stated policies as disseminated in the classroom concerning race has resulted in severe damage being done. In my own personal experience with the issue, majority kids come to assume minorities have to have help due to some "inferiority", and most minorities (not all Asian groups) assume the "typical" majority class persons are "typically" racist and selfish usurpers and oppressors. President Obama even threw his own Grandmother under the bus, characterizing her as a "typical white person" and all that that type of code-language entails, despite her documented non-racist bonafides: Having said all that, I agree that both parties exploit human weaknesses to their own advantage, and in the process of shaping thought-processes, employ a constant feedback loop mode that reinforces the politics of division instead of inclusion. Couple that with the current implementation of unwritten, yet still rigid "speech codes"-of completely stifling freedom of thought and expression, and you have the situation we have now- where all the gains we've made since the 60s, resulting in our first African American President, threaten to unravel.

All well and true, but data would be helpful to gauge the veracity of such a broad opening statement that you made.

You're answering questions I didn't ask. And I asked Shane, specifically on what he stated.

Data, please.

Surreptitiously moving about in clever disguise, no doubt? Sounds like you got yourself a scoop, Halsey.....

Plouffe-sie! keeping hope alive....

I wish the Twins would have thought that about a year ago when he was still worth something in trade.

Just speculation on my part, but kind-of foreshadowing a feeling about a future former SS?

Why yes....Yes, I did! (Reider and I are having our own little ongoing scrum on the value of Flo and Dozier).

Juan Bautista (.1462 TF OPS) and Edwin Encarnacion (.1212 TF OPS)......Twins Killers.

......Kids, this is why we leave the "managin" to the professionals......

Did Dozier's play to end the inning earn him a reprieve? Just asking, as it looked just a little tougher than the previous "great play" high hop grounder to P-Flo.

Send the bum down!

I've seen groups thrown out of The 400 for carrying on with less questionable topics than this one.

Lady GaGa?

Bare-sie?

He can't be the goat every night. Hey, his stellar PAs, including that key 4th inning sac bunt tonight have bought him at least a month-long reprieve from Gardy.