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More to this than just stat lines? So far, the only "hard evidence" that Klaw has presented on Twins prospects is that Vargas isn't going to make it, because no 300 pound players ever make it. Berrios isn't going to make it, because no 6' tall players ever make it. And he seems to enjoy reveling in being a stubborn and abrasive reactionary about his simplistic stand, instead of strengthening the defense of his positions.
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Gardy thought Meyer should have been in the bullpen coming out of ST. Six weeks ago, Meyer was in all likelihood, the best pitcher in the organization, before Hughes finally started coming on. If Meyer is broken down a bit right now, so be it, it isn't the first time, and won't be the last time that the top pitching prospects bounce between the major and minor leagues. It has nothing to do with "impatience".
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Nine pitchers over 30 on the current 25-man roster. No pitchers under 26 on same. Only two pitchers (Hughes and Gibson), who aren't in the physical decline phase of their careers.
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As I posted early in this thread, Pino throws lots of strikes and craftily mixes location and speed. And going 1-2-3 in the first inning all 8 AAA and Twins starts seems to indicate that he should be given strong consideration for the pen. And further on the bright side, were he to replace either Burton or Guerrier, the pitching staff average age would drop.
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Doc, the following below is reprinted from another thread, but I think appropriate to contrasting your main thrust. Isn't there some kind of happier roster-makeup-medium between the current Twins and current Marlins?: Uhhh, Pino was in his 8th year of AA or AAA ball counting this season, are we really sure that being LHP is the only difference? Heaney is 23 and it's reasonably logical that he hasn't yet approached his ceiling, and that isn't just my opinion: Feel free to put all of your faith into Pino, but there are multiple reasons the Twins have never had a Starting Pitcher make his major league debut at age 30.5 before. You're missing the point of my argument. The Marlins aren't debuting any 30 year old career minor leaguers, they are breaking in a passel-full of quality pitchers with high upside at very young ages- including yesterday, promoting their #1 prospect to the already-good Starting Rotation. FYI, the Marlins currently have 9 pitchers, age 24 or younger on their 25-man or DL. And that total rises to 12 on the 40-man. By contrast, the Twins have- ZERO, ZIP, NADA under-24 pitchers on their 25-man, and all of two, both age 24, May and Tonkin, on their 40-man roster.
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Uhhh, Pino was in his 8th year of AA or AAA ball counting this season, are we really sure that being LHP is the only difference? Heaney is 23 and it's reasonably logical that he hasn't yet approached his ceiling, and that isn't just my opinion: Feel free to put all of your faith into Pino, but there are multiple reasons the Twins have never had a Starting Pitcher make his major league debut at age 30.5 before. You're missing the point of my argument. The Marlins aren't debuting any 30 year old career minor leaguers, they are breaking in a passel-full of quality pitchers with high upside at very young ages- including yesterday, promoting their #1 prospect to the already-good Starting Rotation. FYI, the Marlins currently have 9 pitchers, age 24 or younger on their 25-man or DL. And that total rises to 12 on the 40-man. By contrast, the Twins have- ZERO, ZIP, NADA under-24 pitchers on their 25-man, and all of two, both age 24, May and Tonkin, on their 40-man roster.
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Twins' Trade Bait and Why the Twins Should Sell
jokin replied to GoGonzoJournal's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Excellent analysis, his outstanding performance this season will pique lots more interest in Suzuki as a rental player than would have been the case at this time last year in the identical contract situation. -
Article: Minnesota Twins Roster & Payroll 2014
jokin replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Thanks for sharing, rikker49, I thought it was just me. -
And one of the best in the League at weak contact, too. He has a 16% IFFB rate, 3rd best in AL.
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And an outstanding FB rate (28%, which ranks 20th lowest among all Starters). A pretty unusual set of superlatives. Seems sustainable.
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I'm with you, Seth. The long delay and playing 'til Midnight was a little weird, but that was one of the most enjoyable games of the year. I wouldn't mind staying up late for a few more just like it.
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Where do you guys hang out? Can I hang with you? That is some funny stuff... Please post more.
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If they weren't serious about Carbonell, seems there's no way they're interested here. Looks like another Arcia. And it sounds like he might not be signable until some time in 2015.
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And how! New Britain has won 10 of 11 since Eddie Rosario has hit the lineup. I guess his buddy, Kennys Vargas, is happiest of all in having him back. In those 11 games, Vargas is slashing .391/.420/.826/1.246 with 6 HR. En Fuego much?
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Glad you mentioned the latter two, JC. I haven't seen alot written about Eades and Slegers falling off the ledge, as it were. Any simple explanation for why this is happening?
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To be fair, Pino threw several pitches at 90 and 91, but yes, the league is likely to catch up with him sooner rather than later.
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Just to put things in perspective, the Twins stay true to form, and celebrate debuting yet another arm rescued out of AAAA obscurity. Meanwhile, the much-maligned Miami Marlins- on the same night we enjoyed the fine, but aged, Pino Noir- debuted yet another member of their impressive string of hot young pitching prospects- this time, 2012 First Round draft pick, Andrew Heaney. His first MLB game line, at the tender age of 23? Going up against Mets ace Zach Wheeler, Heaney achieved- 6 IP 1 ER, 4 H, 3 K, 1 BB, !.50 ERA. Seems more like a debut line the kid can build on, not rest- and eventually- reflect on.
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Don't forget, the Twins defense sandwiched 2 botched and catch-able foul pop flies around that Fuld-to-Dozier put out at 2nd on Beckham off of the Gillaspie single.
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How about some more warm and fuzzies:
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Absolutely right, John. Gardy has been managing by use of the hot hand all season. Pino is just the lastest, and he rose to the occasion, and under very difficult circumstances. I like how he was able to flash 91MPH to show he's better than the typical ragarm journeyman. And boy, did he mix up his velocity and locations well. A great story, and you ride this wave while it lasts. I was most struck by the fact that in now, 8 starts this season in AAA and with the Twins, that he has set the side down 1-2-3 in each outing, which possibly augurs well for Pino to claim a spot in the bullpen at some point.
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I like your optimism.
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Nunez to the DL. No news yet on the 40-man move. Another cluster.
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I've found the Twins website quite often to be the last to know about such things....
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It's actually well past time, it should have been done immediately once Plouffe went down. The Twins actually put themselves in a position yesterday with Fuld pinch-hitting for Florimon.....
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Sounds like time to consider a career change?