HGH is a helluva drug. I don't think Bonds ever failed a drug test while he was playing, did he? He obviously used performance enhancing substances, but I don't recall a situation in which he took a specifcally banned substance. It's a semantic argument, sure, but that's the case for every player. Greenies weren't banned when Mays and Aaron were playing, they are banned now. Bonds admitted to taking substances that were esentially steroids, but not specifically on the list of banned substances. He cheated, but I still like him more than, say, Clemens or A-Rod. It's too bad, because he was probably HOF worthy before he was using. Jeter is more than likely clean, and he doesn't have any close association with any confirmed users (other than Andy Pettitte) - he played with Clemens, A-Rod, Giambi, etc., but I think the general feeling is that Jeter did not cheat. I think Jeter gets a boost for "playing the right way" but even that is not enough to get 100%