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Improving College Arms: The Falvey Method?
bunsen82 replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This team is taking college pitchers that have had a lot of "seasoning" and adding 5-8 mph on their pitches. Going from college to the pro's where you focus on your craft completely will of course add something to your pitch ability. The are finding arms as deep as round 15 and making them into useful arms either in the minor leagues or possibly even for the big leagues. I was actually surprised they drafted Chase Petty, and then they proceed to trade for 2 year of Sonny Gray who if he remains healthy is a better version of Berrios. If you net the two trades together, you get Gray, Martin and SWR for Berrios and Petty. The Twins incrementally got better from those 2 trades although I felt the Jays slightly overpaid for Berrios. But this is a thread on drafting college prospects, improving their mechanics to increase velocity and finding pitchers with an elite pitch they can begin to work off of. Needless to say they have plenty of college arms in the minor leagues that are finding success and adding to our future pitching pipeline.- 11 replies
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Most likely they continue to limp along with the Bullpen we have hoping to get gradual help from those coming back from injuries such as Alcala and Dobnack and Maeda. Then see if we can find 1-2 more from prospects that can also be a reliable arm. Then see if we can get a couple more at the deadline. We need at minimum 4-5 very good options for the playoffs, currently we have 1 with Smith being another who has performed well up to this point but likely doesn't have the stuff to put a team over the finish line come the playoffs.
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This season is a success in the managements eyes, and us for fans should be pretty happy as well. They were able to put out a decent product and we see signs of younger talent that will be key cogs for this team in the next couple of years. This has been a transition year all along. This all comes down to expectations. Many have had their expectations go sky high on this season, and from my viewpoint they are a slightly above .500 team as currently constructed. The managements focus all along has been LONG-TERM success throughout the organization. It means they will look for this year and do as much as they can, but ultimately their horizon is much longer than tomorrow, July or Sept. It has been stated many times though if you get to the playoffs you have a chance. That is true no matter how small the chance is you still have a chance. But if you want to win it all you need multiple chances, so I would rather have a team that can get to the playoffs the next 6 out of 8 years. With multiple shots you have a better chance at the ultimate payoff of a WS.
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This hits the nail on the head. The front office is getting exactly what it wanted out of this year, a team overachieving, but a team that doesn't logistically have a chance to compete for a championship unless you do a lot of tinkering at the trade deadline. Now they will have some ammo. There may be a bit of a 40 man crunch so we can use some prospects for trade bait that we would likely lose, but honestly I don't think it will be as tough as what the community has thought. We will most likely outright Sano, Sanchez is done. Duffy is an unrestricted free agent. Most likely we will not have Correa and Urshela will be a decision we will have to make on his arbitration, although as of now he is likely worth the contract. We also have a couple more we can cut with minimal impact such as Dobnak, Bundy, Archer and then you have the prospects that you can move off the 40 man that you no longer want to protect due to injury or poor performance. There is a lot of moving parts for this team and lots of options how they want to construct next years team and 40 man.
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Twins Prospects Being Slept On
bunsen82 replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
My deep sleeper picks to get to the big show that were not even on the top 50 prospects list are the following: 1 Headricks 2. Isola 3. Mooney Headricks is dominating high A ball, the real test will be AA but he should be able to pass that level as well. Isola is already at AA, the only concern I have is that he is one that may wear down as the season goes down just like he did last year. He maybe an ideal backup catcher. The third is Mooney, he was drafted late due to an injury and lost a season with Covid. He is just a pitcher that knows how to pitch. Hendricks has gotten more notoriety this year, but Mooney has even out pitched him this year. All 3 came from the 2019 draft, in rounds 9, 29 and 12 respectively.- 9 replies
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Twins Daily 2022 Draft Coverage, May 19
bunsen82 replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Whoever we take will likely be under slot unless it is someone they really really like. This will be the type of draft where we will try to create an extra high pick through money. Similar to what we did with Enlow. It is smart, so far with Enlow it hasn't paid off primarily due to injuries. -
One that is starting to pop a bit is Holland. Another double and triple last night. Has an OPS over .900 for May with what I understand is pretty good defense.
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Here is what I am seeing after 2 months Prospects that look like major league talent 1. Canterino (has the most talent of this class, just needs to stay healthy) 2. Steer (continues to do well) 3. Varland (talent has stepped up at AA, but still showing strong stuff) 4. Headrick (his talent is really starting to pop - is having similar stats to Varland from last year in high A) 5. Isola (looks like at minimum a back up catcher) Need improvement but have talent for MLB 6. Julien (elite eye at the plate) 7. Wallner (legit mlb power) Most likely Minor leaguers but could flash 7. Laweryson (has flashed) 8. Gipson Long 9. Mooney (one with the most likely chance to significantly move up in my opinion from this group) 10. Prato 11. Holland (one I am still keeping my eye on, bat is improving has potential to be a utility player) 12. Gross 13. Gray 14. Cavaco (Looks lost based on his stats in low A ball) 15. Legumina
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It’s Time to Start Noticing Brent Headrick
bunsen82 replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
He may not be on a top 20 list, but he will definitely be on a top 40 list. The depth of the Twins organization is very very good. Now if he continues to do this in AA which I think he likely can, then he will easily be on the top 20 list. He is making High A ball batters look silly, I don't anticipate that to be falling off by going up a level, and AA ball is generally the make of break level whether you have the potential or not to play at the big leagues. -
It’s Time to Start Noticing Brent Headrick
bunsen82 replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
There are about 7-8 arms from that class that have the potential to possibly make it to the big leagues. 3 years after a draft that is pretty damn impressive. Canterino is the highest level arm, followed by Varland. Lawyerson, Gipson Long, Headrick Legumina, Gross and Mooney are all having various levels of success. As of this point Cavaco is not finding his bat. There were 3 big swings on players with high upside to improve their plate discipline and hit tool, Cavaco Holland and Julien. Julien appears to be a success and Holland is quietly improving. At high A ball for the last month he has an OPS in the 800's. Holland has as much upside as Cavaco so if he somehow he continues to improve that might negate Cavaco most likely busting out. Steer looks like the stud bat of this class, with Wallner who looks pretty good but defensively not really a position, and then Gray Prato and Julien all doing fairly well this year. Alex Isola in the 29th round could be a very nice find. -
It’s Time to Start Noticing Brent Headrick
bunsen82 replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
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It’s Time to Start Noticing Brent Headrick
bunsen82 replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Headrick topped out at 91 mph out of college. I don’t see specifics but I would guess he is working in the low to mid 90’s now. Where it gets interesting his current stats. He has over 13 k/9, and also over 7k/bb. That means his stuff is very potent while having excellent control. He has a 6’6” frame, so that low 90,s to mid 90’s pitch is getting pitched closer to the plate and coming from a higher angle allowing for more deception and missed bats. This is another potential arm from that 2019 class. It appears the twins draft strategies are starting to pay dividends. -
Twins Minor League Report (5/10): Mighty Mussels No-Hitter!
bunsen82 replied to Steve Lein's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Isola has a chance to make it to the big leagues, and he is another one from that 2019 draft class. The 2019 and 2021 draft classes are looking very very strong.- 15 replies
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Did this trade exclude us from signing Rogers next year? Has the regime paid for any legitimate relief pitcher in the last 5 years, I have only seen scrap heap additions. They have no plans to sign Rogers in the offseason is my guess. They don't spend their money on pitching period. They will use contracts on position players and are trying to draft to develop a pipeline for the pitchers. They have had to supplement this with some trades. This is my observation of the last couple years.
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This all comes down to the time horizon. We lost a closer for 1 year. He was likely gone after this year anyway. I had this discussion with my uncle the other day discussing Correa and this years prospects. I would be thrilled if the Twins keep Correa all year and the twins are doing well, and then they use some lower level prospects to possibly get a closer more bullpen help. Falvey and Levine are looking at have this team competitive not for 1 year stints, but a continuous level of competitiveness. That means being willing to trade a closer on the last year of his contract for another decent reliever and a starter that can give you 3 years of very good value. This trade will likely go down as one of the best trades for the Twins is my guess. I will also be drinking my coffee watching Twinsdaily lose its **** the day they trade Correa, because again he is a valuable asset. The odds he is traded is 75% is my guess. The only way he isn't is we are one of the top 1-2 teams in the A.L.
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Value, Value, Value. That is the mantra of this front office. Paddack and Pagan have the same WAR that Rogers has had this year, with Rogers pitching extremely well. A mid rotation to a #2 starter is worth much more than a very good relief pitcher, and that is no knock on Rogers. Forget the fact that this is for 3 years of Paddack and 2 for Pagan for 1 of Rogers and that is nothing to say of the other minor leaguer we got in the deal. Paddack had no spot in San Diego after they traded for Manea and their plethora of starting pitching. With more refined coaching and developing a third pitch, we are seeing the results. Now if we continue to do well we will need to trade for a couple relievers to strengthen the bullpen.
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I think your characterization of Julien isn't quiet accurate. He was the #88 prospect for fangraphs and the #177 for MLB. Essentially he was viewed as anywhere from a 3rd to 5th round draft pick. What happened is he dropped and dropped and then the Twins took a shot in the dark in the 18th round. What happened was he went bonkers in the college world series, don't remind him of the overthrow that cost Auburn a game. With saving some money in earlier rounds, Julien signed as essentially a 4th to 5th round draft pick. He has always had talent and a power bat, the question was his overall hit tool and what would be his defensive position. Now I think the odd thing is he was viewed as more of a plodder- which has been the exact opposite. The twins bulked up on middle infield and corner infield slots in the 2019 draft - for some reason I have made that draft a key point of interest for myself. Everyone seemed to be so upset with the draft, yet when you really started to dig into it you realized they picked up a lot of kids with a lot of talent. Currently there is something like 20 players from that draft still in the minors and many of them in the top 40 prospect lists. I will continue to watch and see how many make it to the big leagues.
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I only listened and watched updated on espn. The version of Paddack we saw last night shows why you always trade a reliever straight up for SP if they are of decent ability. You are getting 6 innings of production vs 3 per a week, and it is much more difficult to pitch 5-6 consecutive innings than 1 at a time. Paddack and Pagan's WAR is the exact same as Rogers, with really only 1 really good start from Paddack. Paddack in 3 starts is starting to look like a really solid addition. If we can get 5-6 innings with a pitcher with 3-4 pitches that can throw up to 94-95 mph, that is a huge upside. As much as I love Rogers, this looks like a trade that will turn out very favorably for the Twins. Even still I think it was a good trade for the Padres. This was a trade good for both teams primarily due to each teams roster construction and the twins ability to improve Paddack, due to better pitch mix and likely facing easier hitters.
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Buxton is one of the top 5 talents in the game, when he is available. Remaining healthy continues to be the major issue with Buxton. This ferrari continues to need regular maintenance and rest to maintain its optimal performance. We will continue to watch for any slaps on the ground or yells in frustration on the next awkward slide, slamming into the wall, diving to catch a ball or just running. Even Buxton is showing frustration with his injury history. That aside, if Buxton continues to be healthy, and Correa starts to turn the corner which I think he is, the top 3 of Buxton, Arreaz and Correa is going to cause a lot of damage this year. With OBP of near 400 from those 3 players is going to be something to watch. They will set the table for Polanco and whoever else decides to step up and make contact and clear the bases for this team. The bats will continue to warm up especially with those 3 continuing to put pitchers in difficult spots.
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Eh, I am not going to let some early season slow bats affect what I am seeing. What I do see is that we have some decent Starting pitching. If Paddack can continue to improve and give us this type of performance, we win the trade by a large margin. You get a #3 type pitcher for 1 year of a reliever, you take it every day of the week. Buxton is a game changer, we need him back. As to the rest of the team, I will give Correa a pass. When the team is constructed for a long ball game, and it is cold and windy, you won't do well generally. As the temps warm up I do expect the bats to get better. Urshela looks decent and honestly Sanchez is better than I expected. I am still looking at a slightly less than .500 team. But I didn't come into this season with lofty goals.
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Minor League Report 4/16 The Bats Are Sizzling
bunsen82 replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Isolated a few batters may cool off, but as a whole the minor league system depth but also top level prospects are doing very well. Whatever you may think Falvine and Levine are doing at the mlb level what they have done to improve our pipeline is a massive improvement. My observation has been they will make moves that can improve the team at the MLB level they will, and they aren’t afraid to make trades but for now it is only for the long play or the future. That includes the Correa signing especially if they trade him at the deadline which is my baseline. Correa has time but needs to start playing better defense and his bat needs to wake up for this to come to fruition. All said it was fun night of baseball in the minor league system.- 26 replies
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Get To Know 'Em: Future Twin "PTBNL"
bunsen82 replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think the PTBNL will be a much lower prospect than what was being discussed above. If we can get any of those players it will be a major win for the twins affectively in my mind. Paddack has a lot more value than most realize and similar to what the twins did in effectively salary dumping Donaldson, the Padres were willing to do it to get under the salary cap threshold. Otherwise I don't think they would do it. Their maneuvers just like what we did with the trades that gave us the cap relief to sign Correa, greatly helped this year performance and excitement, but just like us there is no long term value in the 2 trades the Padres did for Manea and Rogers. It helps them win now, unless they want to flip them at the deadline. Paddack on the other hand is on long term contract and has much more potential value as starter than even Rogers as a closer. We used cash to essentially to buy Paddack, and then added in a little extra to get them under the salary line. That extra will be what determines the PTBNL, The fact is we just don't know how much money that was. My guess is it is closer to the 1.5 million range as suggested in other posts.- 48 replies
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There is not much to be concerned about this early in the season. My guess is Duffy won't be given the next chance. Honestly I bet they will try Pagan, see how he does if not pass it on to Alcala or Duran. Duffy just doesn't quite have it going right now. Every single hit seemed to be hit hard. Its 1 game. Honestly I don't expect us to contend, mainly 500 ball but I do want to see better situational hitting. We have to be able to get more hits. It may be early in the season but we have a lot of swing and miss players out there right now.
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As an aside Palacios if he makes it to the big leagues is a very interesting case for the Twins, You trade him for Odorizzi and then he struggles in the Rays system he comes back to the twins and it is as if he never left and he really played well last year. If Correa gets injured or traded this year, Palacios will likely be the fill in unless we are willing to pass on the mantle to Lewis.
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