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Everything posted by Brock Beauchamp
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What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
My frustration is not with the content of your post, it was the fact that you're the third or fourth person to take a fragment of one of my posts and turn it into a tangent unrelated to the topic I was specifically discussing (not the thread at large, the singular point I was rebutting). And that point was that the Twins are forcing players to fit into a mold that does not come naturally to them and the examples used were terrible. There is very little evidence to support that analysis and a fair amount of evidence to dispute it. Again, there are mountains of examples of the Twins doing things wrong and screwing up rosters, draft picks, development, fundamentals, etc... We don't need to manufacture wrong-doing with this team. -
What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
http://twinsdaily.com/articles.html/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins/behind-brian-doziers-turnaround-r1961 "Dozier said he and Brunansky spent that night and most of the next day studying to get a feel where he was misfiring. They counted 'clicks' before the pitcher releases the ball to the time of contact. According to Dozier, the process starts once a hitter's foot hits the ground. "Once your foot is down, you start counting the clicks in your swing," Dozier said. "Good hitters who have their foot down can see the ball -- for instance, Mauer has eight or nine clicks -- and I was only having like three." http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1711681-minnesota-twins-brian-dozier-is-more-than-just-a-baseball-player "Dozier says he made a lot of progress in late May when he made a big adjustment with his swing under the direction of hitting coach Tom Brunansky. According to Brandon Warne of ESPN1500, Dozier’s batting average fell to .197. Since then, he is hitting .263/.364/.480 with a 24-to-20 walk-to-strikeout rate." -
What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
*facedesk* Okay, case in point. First off, I agree with most of this post. But what does it have to do with the point I made in my post about falsely attributing failure when it doesn't exist in a specific case? This thread of comments wasn't about player development. It wasn't about minor leaguers. It wasn't about fundamental baseball. In my opinion, the Twins have failed at those three things far more than they have succeeded in recent years. That's a huge, gigantic, massive problem. But that wasn't what the conversation was about. It was about the Twins "changing" players - some of them very good players - to fit a specific mold and that point didn't have much in the way of evidence to support it (and a fair amount of evidence to the contrary). Again, it's entirely possible to dislike much of what this organization does wrong while occasionally tipping the cap to the things they get right. We don't need to manufacture criticism of this team, many of their mistakes are on painful display six nights a week. -
I think Molitor probably needs to go but I don't see a point in doing it right now. The goal should be to get two new front office voices - president and GM - and let them make the decision about Molitor.
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What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
These stats aren't necessarily correllated to the point at hand but it's a fun comparison. Brian Dozier career: .245 / .319 / .435 / .755 Tom Brunansky career: .245 / .327 / .434 / .761 -
What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I'm not trying to pick on you but I'm going to address this statement rather bluntly: This kind of thinking is what drives me nuts about this forum some days. Do you know who was an extreme pull hitter, a guy who based his entire career on hitting flyballs, drawing a few walks, and putting the ball in the left field seats when the pitcher made a mistake? Tom Brunansky. Do you know who showed Brian Dozier film, helped him change his swing, and literally the next day, Brian Dozier was a different player and never looked back? Tom Brunansky. And now we're charging Bruno with the crime of "trying to change Brian Dozier". Why is it so hard to give this team credit when they get something right? Why are you trying to shift the success of Dozier over to Willingham when Dozier himself says it was Brunansky who lobbied him to change his approach? Not everything this team does is bad. Not everything this team does is good. It's possible to give them credit for Dozier and want to punch them in the face for Buxton. As for the rest of your post... in no way, shape, or form am I defending many of the developmental choices made by this organization over the past few years. It's maddening to watch Buxton and Berrios play organizational ping pong for no good reason. But that wasn't the point I was addressing. Someone accused the Twins of "changing" a slew of players without a lick of evidence to support their case for most of the players on the list. That's terrible analysis and deserves to be called out. -
Yeah, that makes sense. Spend a bunch of money on a consultant firm, spend more money for a figurehead, spend even more money on a new GM, and then continue operating business as normal. C'mon guys, the negativity and presumption on this forum in the past week has become intolerable. Let the process play out, then form an opinion. This is good news, there's no need to **** all over it. If the Pohlads flub the process from this point forward, I'll be right there beside you, pitchfork in hand but there's no indication they're going to flub the process other than wild speculation and blinding resentment toward past actions.
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What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
How did they try to change Dozier? He was an eighth round draft pick who averaged four home runs a season in his college days. The only "changing" done by Brian Dozier was going from a mediocre player with no power to a very good player with lots of power. If you're talking about Dozier and the Twins' request to start using more of the field... Uh, Dozier was in a pretty serious slump at the time. And now that he's succeeding again, he is in fact using a bit more of the field. -
Whoa. Trying to reduce a 4 BB/9 rate is not preaching "pitch to contact". I don't like how they've handled Berrios - not even a little bit - but no MLB pitcher succeeds by walking one guy every other inning unless they're named Nolan Ryan. Don't couch your ideas about the 2016 Twins in the ideas of the 2008 Twins.
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Time out. Are we accusing Allen of preaching pitch to contact? Did Rick Anderson possess him? I was all on board with hiring Allen but I'm falling off that train in a hurry... But to claim he's carrying the torch for an idea long gone is a bit much.
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Fun with numbers: 2016 edition
Brock Beauchamp replied to diehardtwinsfan's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Get lost, you ****ing hack. Also, glad to see ya! -
What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Seriously? Ortiz- 16 years ago Liriano - okay, a misstep... But it's not like he crushed for the Pirates. He was good. Perkins - you mean the guy who was an elite closer for the Twins? Dozier - what? Hicks - you're really reaching here. Buxton - bad so far. Has all of 350 MLB PAs. Sano - career 130 OPS+. Berrios - like Buxton, madly mismanaged... But 22 MLB IP. IMO, the Twins screw up too often but your examples of the forcing a player to be something he isn't has one legit case: Ortiz. And that happened 16 years ago under a different manager and most of a different front office. -
What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
So if a player fails, it's the Twins fault. If a player succeeds, it's dumb luck. Scorching hot take and completely objective analysis right there. -
What Happened To Our Twinkies?
Brock Beauchamp replied to twinscowboysbulls's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Brian Dozier says hi. And Trevor Plouffe. -
Ugh. Sorry, but it's like you're intentionally missing my point. I'll put it in clearer terms. Pick which one is more impressive: 1. Fifth most valuable player in the West Arkansas Little League finals 2. Eighth most valuable player in the College World Series More players aren't a bad thing if the players are better. You're using a raw number without factoring in talent level or number of participants.
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Ryan was fired/left less than six weeks ago. This timeline is pretty reasonable. The process should be thorough and it should take a few months. The Twins aren't looking for part time work to fill checkout counter six, they're looking for a new head of the organization. And your timeline with the Phillies is waaaaaayyyyy off. I suggest you do a bit more research. Macphail replaced Gillick, who held the interim title for nearly a full year.
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It launched between June 2-6 of 2006. Can't recall the exact date. It started on a lark, really. ESPN had bungled their message boards (again) and I asked who wanted a new site. A bunch of people responded and BYTO was born about five hours later (I had a forum up and running for another site that hadn't launched and hijacked the code to get BYTO up in a few hours). As funny as the name was, I spent less than five minutes thinking about it and chose the first thing that popped into my head. It's weird how things play out like that sometimes.
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I think we're talking past each other a bit. Your original point was that there are more WAR points available today than there were in 1960. But WAR is "Wins Above Replacement". If "replacement level" is higher than it was 60 years ago, it's harder to earn 1 WAR than it was in the past. If there are more, better, players competing for a single point of WAR, the net result is approximately the same (and I'd argue it's harder today) no matter whether there are more points available at large. If 1,000 superior players are competing for 1,000 points of WAR, it's harder to earn that point than if there are 500 inferior players competing for 500 points of WAR. On top of that, the player rankings as skewed. To be fifth best in a 500 player league (just using general numbers here for simplicity) means you're a top 1% player. But to be fifth best in a 1,000 player league means you're a top 0.5% player. That's why comparing eras simply by rank is a problem. Today, there are more players, better players, with a higher level of average player performance. The overall point pool is higher but that doesn't matter because the pool of competition is so much higher today. It's akin to this: If you're the fifth best high school player in Minnesota, that's great... But if you're the fifth best high school player in the nation, that means you're phenomenal. If you're the fifth best high school player in the world, that means... Well, you get the point.
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That's not even a little bit true. Today, the 50th best player in MLB is almost surely better than the 25th best player 50 years ago. In my eyes, that can't even be disputed. Racial integration, foreign players, astronomical salaries... Those aren't providing roster backfill players. Those are providing a crop of quality MLB players much larger than any time in history. MLB pulls from a pool that's at least 10x (probably more like 100x) the size it was in 1960. Hell, the population of America alone has more than doubled since 1950, never mind the pool of players from Venezuela, PR, Dominican, Japan, Korea, Mexico, Europe, etc. That leads to better players (and lots of 'em), I don't care how many teams are in the league. It's a hell of a lot harder to make it to MLB today than it has been at any time in the history of the game because there are higher numbers of better athletes challenging for a limited numbers of spots.
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I just don't even care anymore. It's like this team is actively lobbying me to not give a ****.
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That's an interesting way to look at it. On the other hand, replacement level is a lot higher today than it was 50 years ago. And more players means it's harder to scale the rankings. What was 5th in a 16 team league should be roughly 9th in a 30 team league. It's going to be tough to sell me on the idea it was easier for Joe to earn that WAR than, say, anyone who played before 1961. Or even 1981. There may be more overall WAR points in play but the level of competition for those points is much higher.
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