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Everything posted by Brock Beauchamp
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Yep, I believe that is a TV-only map.
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Ah, found a map. Of all the silly things, Seattle has the most territory. Who would have guessed that?
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Geography-wise, I think Twins Territory may be the largest of any team in baseball. It has MN, part of WI, part of IA, SD, and ND. Dunno what other team would have an area that large (outside of possibly the Rockies).
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The key difference being that the Twins have a solid young core of players from which to build around. The Royals have been in a perpetual rebuilding cycle for well over a decade. They haven't tried to buy their way out of anything. They get a few good players and squander them on a crappy team before trading them off. The Mets and Cubs are in the positions they're in because neither team has bothered to draft actual Major League players in the past decade, not because they spent too much money. You can't expect all your prospects to magically hit the majors at the same point and then suddenly become a good team. Part of building a good team involves using FA to your advantage and knowing when to double down and when to retreat. Right now, the Twins have several good young players (Diamond, Plouffe, Revere, Span, Perkins), several good vets (Doumit, Willingham), and a superstar in his prime (Mauer). What happens if you wait until 2015 or later? All of that is gone, except now you have an aging superstar who makes the same amount he made in his prime and eats up 1/4 of your roster salary. The AL Central is awful nearly every year. It barely takes a winning record to compete in this division. But if the Twins can't compete in 2013, I'm fine with that. JR has said he's trying to get high upside guys over ready-for-the-show guys and I think it's a smart move. But you don't fold your hand if it's not necessary and I'm not convinced it's necessary yet. Not when you have a decent core of young players and a star player in his prime.
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Most years, they were beaten by superior teams. A couple of times, they choked. They've been on both sides of the "best team in the series" coin and have failed to come through every year after 2002. I have no idea what that last paragraph even means.
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What to Watch for? Nick Blackburn version.
Brock Beauchamp replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Damn near half of baseball missed on Dickey. Give it a rest. -
It's convenient that you cut out my next sentence, which read "The best teams usually win but that's not always the case." If you're going to argue with me, at least have the courtesy to quote my entire post and not cherry-pick sentences out of it to fit an argument I'm not trying to make. I mean, come on. You intentionally deleted that sentence right out of my post. Baseball is more of a crapshoot than any other sport. It's why the best teams win 60% of their games instead of 80-90% like other sports. Getting to the playoffs is the most important step. If you do it enough times, you're going to break through and win in baseball.
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The Twins handed a late lead to the Orioles and lost yesterday's game, 4-3. That left them with a disappointing 2-5 homestand as they travel to Kansas City to meet the fourth place Royals and play a three game set. But hey, Nick Blackburn is back in the rotation! After pitching well in a couple of starts in Rochester, the Twins have brought Nick back to Minnesota in hopes that he's be and track and that his sinker is finally, uh, sinking. To counter, the Royals are offering their own struggling right-hander in Luke Hochevar to keep the playing field even. Now that Blackburn is back, what do you expect from him? Will he continue to get shelled at the Major League level or is there a chance he has figured out his sinker again? Join the Twins Daily discussion below! Nick Blackburn [TABLE=class: stats_table, width: 580] [TH=class: dg-season, align: center] [/TH] [TH=class: dg-w, align: center]W[/TH] [TH=class: dg-l, align: center]L[/TH] [TH=class: dg-era, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-gs, align: center]GS[/TH] [TH=class: dg-cg, align: center]CG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-sho, align: center]SHO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-er, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hr, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hb, align: center]HB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-bb, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ibb, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-so, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-avg, align: center]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-whip, align: center]WHIP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]GO/AO[/TH] [TD=class: dg-season, align: left]SEASON[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]5[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]8.10[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]13[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]13[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]63.1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]90[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]57[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]57[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]15[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]22[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]30[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].333[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.77[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.25[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-season, align: left]MLB Totals[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]43[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]51[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]4.79[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]139[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]131[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]5[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]783.1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]950[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]466[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]417[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]109[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]18[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]198[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]11[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]376[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].301[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.47[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.34[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Luke Hochevar [TABLE=class: stats_table, width: 580] [TH=class: dg-season, align: center] [/TH] [TH=class: dg-w, align: center]W[/TH] [TH=class: dg-l, align: center]L[/TH] [TH=class: dg-era, align: center]ERA[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g, align: center]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-gs, align: center]GS[/TH] [TH=class: dg-cg, align: center]CG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-sho, align: center]SHO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ip, align: center]IP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h, align: center]H[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r, align: center]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-er, align: center]ER[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hr, align: center]HR[/TH] [TH=class: dg-hb, align: center]HB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-bb, align: center]BB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ibb, align: center]IBB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-so, align: center]SO[/TH] [TH=class: dg-avg, align: center]AVG[/TH] [TH=class: dg-whip, align: center]WHIP[/TH] [TH=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]GO/AO[/TH] [TD=class: dg-season, align: left]SEASON[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]8[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]5.16[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]18[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]18[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]103.0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]111[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]60[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]59[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]11[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]7[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]33[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]75[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].280[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.40[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.24[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-season, align: left]MLB Totals[/TD] [TD=class: dg-w, align: center]36[/TD] [TD=class: dg-l, align: center]51[/TD] [TD=class: dg-era, align: center]5.27[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: center]118[/TD] [TD=class: dg-gs, align: center]114[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cg, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sho, align: center]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ip, align: center]688.2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: center]734[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: center]428[/TD] [TD=class: dg-er, align: center]403[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: center]79[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hb, align: center]34[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: center]229[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ibb, align: center]8[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: center]462[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg, align: center].272[/TD] [TD=class: dg-whip, align: center]1.40[/TD] [TD=class: dg-go_ao, align: center]1.38[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Twins Offense [TABLE=width: 600] [TD=class: dg-rank, align: left]RK[/TD] [TD=class: dg-name_display_last_init, align: left]Player[/TD] [TD=class: dg-team_abbrev, align: left]Team[/TD] [TD=class: dg-pos, align: left]Pos[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g sortable, align: right]G[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ab sortable, align: right]AB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r sortable, align: right]R[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h sortable, align: right]H[/TD] [TD=class: dg-d sortable, align: right]2B[/TD] [TD=class: dg-t sortable, align: right]3B[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr sortable, align: right]HR[/TD] [TD=class: dg-rbi sortable, align: right]RBI[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb sortable, align: right]BB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so sortable, align: right]SO[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sb sortable, align: right]SB[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cs sortable, align: right]CS[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg sortable active, bgcolor: #DCDCDC, align: right]AVG▼[/TD] [TD=class: dg-obp sortable, align: right]OBP[/TD] [TD=class: dg-slg sortable, align: right]SLG[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ops sortable, align: right]OPS[/TD] [TD=align: left]1[/TD] [TD=align: left]Mauer, J[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]C[/TD] [TD=align: right]84[/TD] [TD=align: right]313[/TD] [TD=align: right]49[/TD] [TD=align: right]103[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]44[/TD] [TD=align: right]47[/TD] [TD=align: right]49[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].329[/TD] [TD=align: right].416[/TD] [TD=align: right].457[/TD] [TD=align: right].873[/TD] [TD=align: left]2[/TD] [TD=align: left]Revere, B[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]RF[/TD] [TD=align: right]58[/TD] [TD=align: right]243[/TD] [TD=align: right]28[/TD] [TD=align: right]76[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]15[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] 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right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]13[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].264[/TD] [TD=align: right].346[/TD] [TD=align: right].347[/TD] [TD=align: right].693[/TD] [TD=align: left]7[/TD] [TD=align: left]Plouffe, T[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]RF[/TD] [TD=align: right]73[/TD] [TD=align: right]256[/TD] [TD=align: right]44[/TD] [TD=align: right]67[/TD] [TD=align: right]12[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] [TD=align: right]38[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]56[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].262[/TD] [TD=align: right].333[/TD] [TD=align: right].531[/TD] [TD=align: right].865[/TD] [TD=align: left]8[/TD] [TD=align: left]Morneau, J[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]1B[/TD] [TD=align: right]72[/TD] [TD=align: right]280[/TD] [TD=align: right]34[/TD] [TD=align: right]71[/TD] [TD=align: right]17[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]40[/TD] [TD=align: right]25[/TD] [TD=align: right]58[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].254[/TD] [TD=align: right].317[/TD] [TD=align: right].439[/TD] [TD=align: right].756[/TD] [TD=align: left]9[/TD] [TD=align: left]Dozier, B[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]SS[/TD] [TD=align: right]62[/TD] [TD=align: right]237[/TD] [TD=align: right]24[/TD] [TD=align: right]57[/TD] [TD=align: right]8[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]41[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].241[/TD] [TD=align: right].272[/TD] [TD=align: right].333[/TD] [TD=align: right].605[/TD] [TD=align: left]10[/TD] [TD=align: left]Carroll, J[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]SS[/TD] [TD=align: right]85[/TD] [TD=align: right]292[/TD] [TD=align: right]36[/TD] [TD=align: right]70[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]28[/TD] [TD=align: right]34[/TD] [TD=align: right]43[/TD] [TD=align: right]6[/TD] [TD=align: right]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].240[/TD] [TD=align: right].322[/TD] [TD=align: right].284[/TD] [TD=align: right].606[/TD] [TD=align: left]11[/TD] [TD=align: left]Butera, D[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]C[/TD] [TD=align: right]26[/TD] [TD=align: right]68[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]16[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].235[/TD] [TD=align: right].288[/TD] [TD=align: right].353[/TD] [TD=align: right].641[/TD] [TD=align: left]12[/TD] [TD=align: left]Casilla, A[/TD] [TD=align: 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left]14[/TD] [TD=align: left]Hughes, L[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]2B[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]10[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]4[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].200[/TD] [TD=align: right].182[/TD] [TD=align: right].200[/TD] [TD=align: right].382[/TD] [TD=align: left]15[/TD] [TD=align: left]Parmelee, C[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]1B[/TD] [TD=align: right]38[/TD] [TD=align: right]103[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]20[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]27[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].194[/TD] [TD=align: right].278[/TD] [TD=align: right].320[/TD] [TD=align: right].599[/TD] [TD=align: left]16[/TD] [TD=align: left]Valencia, D[/TD] [TD=align: left]MIN[/TD] [TD=align: left]3B[/TD] [TD=align: right]27[/TD] [TD=align: right]100[/TD] [TD=align: right]9[/TD] [TD=align: right]19[/TD] [TD=align: right]5[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=align: right]11[/TD] [TD=align: right]2[/TD] [TD=align: right]23[/TD] [TD=align: right]0[/TD] [TD=align: right]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].190[/TD] [TD=align: right].204[/TD] [TD=align: right].290[/TD] [TD=align: right].494[/TD] [/TABLE] Royals Offense [TABLE=class: stats_table data_grid, width: 600] [TH=class: dg-rank, align: left]RK[/TH] [TH=class: dg-name_display_last_init, align: left]Player[/TH] [TH=class: dg-team_abbrev, align: left]Team[/TH] [TH=class: dg-pos, align: left]Pos[/TH] [TH=class: dg-g sortable, align: right]G[/TH] [TH=class: dg-ab sortable, align: right]AB[/TH] [TH=class: dg-r sortable, align: right]R[/TH] [TH=class: dg-h sortable, 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right]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-t, align: right]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: right]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-rbi, align: right]7[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: right]2[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: right]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sb, align: right]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cs, align: right]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg active, bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].289[/TD] [TD=class: dg-obp, align: right].310[/TD] [TD=class: dg-slg, align: right].500[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ops, align: right].810[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-rank stripey, align: left]10[/TD] [TD=class: dg-name_display_last_init stripey, align: left]Moustakas, M[/TD] [TD=class: dg-team_abbrev stripey, align: left]KC[/TD] [TD=class: dg-pos stripey, align: left]3B[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g stripey, align: right]86[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ab stripey, align: right]329[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r stripey, align: right]45[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h stripey, align: right]88[/TD] [TD=class: dg-d stripey, align: right]22[/TD] [TD=class: dg-t stripey, align: right]0[/TD] 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right]17[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: right]5[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: right]14[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sb, align: right]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-cs, align: right]1[/TD] [TD=class: dg-avg active, bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: right].264[/TD] [TD=class: dg-obp, align: right].286[/TD] [TD=class: dg-slg, align: right].350[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ops, align: right].636[/TD] [TR=class: odd] [TD=class: dg-rank, align: left]12[/TD] [TD=class: dg-name_display_last_init, align: left]Dyson, J[/TD] [TD=class: dg-team_abbrev, align: left]KC[/TD] [TD=class: dg-pos, align: left]CF[/TD] [TD=class: dg-g, align: right]68[/TD] [TD=class: dg-ab, align: right]216[/TD] [TD=class: dg-r, align: right]35[/TD] [TD=class: dg-h, align: right]54[/TD] [TD=class: dg-d, align: right]6[/TD] [TD=class: dg-t, align: right]4[/TD] [TD=class: dg-hr, align: right]0[/TD] [TD=class: dg-rbi, align: right]7[/TD] [TD=class: dg-bb, align: right]20[/TD] [TD=class: dg-so, align: right]39[/TD] [TD=class: dg-sb, align: right]17[/TD] [TD=class: 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It's the kind of metric you use when your position is indefensible. You start referencing an exhibition game where the fans elect the players. Matt Garza and Scott Baker were damned good picks. They're essentially the same pitcher, only Garza can stay healthy. If only the Twins had the two of them anchoring this rotation...
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You'd think we would have seen more pitching from the minors but few of those guys have panned out (Gibson going down really hurt). Outside of Gibson, I haven't been terribly impressed with their pitching drafts, especially because so many of their picks were college arms. But pitching is only half of a draft. They've done moderately well with their position player drafts, which offsets the "where are all the pitchers?" complaints a bit.
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I think "competitive" is any team that expects to compete for the division. Thankfully, the Twins play in the AL Central and most years, that doesn't take much.
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I haven't liked a lot about the Twins' recent drafts but it is too early to call it for sure. Look at Trevor Plouffe. It's easy to write off a 22 year old that was drafted at 18 four years ago but you'd be foolish for doing so. It takes six years to see what you have in some of these prep players and calling them a failure before that point is folly (barring the players who completely collapse in the minors). The Twins still have plenty of players in the pipeline from their 2006-2009 drafts that may or may not pan out. To call a draft a failure after that point when we don't even know if Hicks/Benson/Gibson/etc. will pan out is ridiculous.
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I think the Houston Astros would disagree. They've had one draft during that period that wasn't "horrendous". The Cubs have had a string of "horrendous" drafts, much worse than the Twins. The Padres have had worse drafts. Again, not claiming the Twins have lit the world on fire with their drafts. But they've consistently drafted major league regulars, which is more than many other teams can claim. You should really look through some of those Cubs drafts if you want to see "horrendous".
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Okay, let's look at 2002-2009. Anything past that is still up in the air. Matt Garza. Denard Span. Glen Perkins. Ben Revere. Those are the first-rounders. Jesse Crain. Scott Baker. Those are the second-rounders. Brian Duensing. He's the third-rounder. Chris Parmelee. Joe Benson. Aaron Hicks. Kyle Gibson. Those are still in the pipeline. Again, that's mediocre. Not "horrendous".
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I try not to think in terms of wins... I try to think "competitive" or "not competitive". The playoffs are a crapshoot. The best teams usually win but that's not always the case. If you think you can get to the playoffs without looting the farm, I believe in trying to do it. Put yourself in a spot to be competitive as often as possible and then in years where a piece is missing, you shore up the team at the deadline. Building up for a "run at it in 20xx" has the tendency to lead you down the path of the Pittsburgh Pirates and Kansas City Royals. With that said, everything depends on what Ryan has for a budget in 2013. If he thinks he can afford a good starter or two, then this team might be competitive next season. But I think that's unlikely. That doesn't change my opinion on trading Span, though. The Twins are starting to build a logjam in the high minors. Span is expendable at this point and that's how mid-market teams stay competitive... You trade off excess when possible to keep the farm healthy. One of Parmelee/Hicks/Benson/Arcia is going to be ready relatively soon and picking up a stop-gap for 2013 if they aren't ready is one of the easier things to do in baseball.

