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    Gleeman & The Geek, Ep 376: Is It Over?

    John Bonnes

    By John Bonnes

    Aaron and John talk whether the Twins' playoff hopes are already over, the legend of Willians Astudillo, an ugly weekend in Chicago, Jorge Polanco's return from suspension, how many horrible things must happen for a team to look like this, Alan Busenitz vs. Matt Belisle, the next Tuesday Taproom Tour, and Joe Mauer's loaded numbers. You can listen by downloading us from iTunes, Stitcher, iHeartRadio or find it at GleemanAndTheGeek.com. Or just click this link.

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    by jiminy

    by jiminy 502

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    In the podcast you discuss the seemingly baffling inconsistency in treatment of Byron Buxton.

     

    First, they rushed him back when he is still injured, without any rehab.

     

    The second time they send him down, they gave him an extended stay in the minor leagues, even after his foot is seemingly healed.

     

    Here's one possible explanation.

     

    Earlier in the year, they considered themselves to be in a pennant race. So their priority was putting the best possible team on the field any given day to keep pace with the Indians in a  winnable division.

     

    They had good reason to do anything they could to hang in there, even if it meant Buxton manning centerfield at less than 100%.  They couldn't afford to rest him. Cleveland had not run away with the division, and they had reinforcements coming in Santana and Polanco, Dozier could realistically explode at any time, and they still weren't sure what they might get from Sano and Buxton.

     

    Now, the pennant race is basically over. It makes a lot more sense to look ahead to next year. There is no reason to squeeze whatever production you can out of Buxton. So their priorities have changed. Sano can spend as long as it takes to master the strike zone again. Buxton can be given as long as it takes to get his offensive game back. Why not? What's the rush?

     

    I don't find these decisions inconsistent at all. Six weeks ago, they had a realistic chance to win the division. Now they don't. I think it's as simple as that.

     

    Personally I am in no hurry to watch Buxton and Sano flailing at sliders outside the zone. I'd much rather wait for them to return until they are ready to lay off those pitches, and knock the next one out of the park. 

     

     

    Vanimal46

    Vanimal46 40,513

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    • Posted

    In the podcast you discuss the seemingly baffling inconsistency in treatment of Byron Buxton.

     

    First, they rushed him back when he is still injured, without any rehab.

     

    The second time they send him down, they gave him an extended stay in the minor leagues, even after his foot is seemingly healed.

     

    Here's one possible explanation.

     

    Earlier in the year, they considered themselves to be in a pennant race. So their priority was putting the best possible team on the field any given day to keep pace with the Indians in a winnable division.

     

    They had good reason to do anything they could to hang in there, even if it meant Buxton manning centerfield at less than 100%. They couldn't afford to rest him. Cleveland had not run away with the division, and they had reinforcements coming in Santana and Polanco, Dozier could realistically explode at any time, and they still weren't sure what they might get from Sano and Buxton.

     

    Now, the pennant race is basically over. It makes a lot more sense to look ahead to next year. There is no reason to squeeze whatever production you can out of Buxton. So their priorities have changed. Sano can spend as long as it takes to master the strike zone again. Buxton can be given as long as it takes to get his offensive game back. Why not? What's the rush?

     

    I don't find these decisions inconsistent at all. Six weeks ago, they had a realistic chance to win the division. Now they don't. I think it's as simple as that.

     

    Personally I am in no hurry to watch Buxton and Sano flailing at sliders outside the zone. I'd much rather wait for them to return until they are ready to lay off those pitches, and knock the next one out of the park.

    Great post. Couldn't agree more with you.

    Squirrel

    Squirrel 42,954

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    • Posted

    In the podcast you discuss the seemingly baffling inconsistency in treatment of Byron Buxton.

     

    First, they rushed him back when he is still injured, without any rehab.

     

    The second time they send him down, they gave him an extended stay in the minor leagues, even after his foot is seemingly healed.

     

    Here's one possible explanation.

     

    Earlier in the year, they considered themselves to be in a pennant race. So their priority was putting the best possible team on the field any given day to keep pace with the Indians in a winnable division.

     

    They had good reason to do anything they could to hang in there, even if it meant Buxton manning centerfield at less than 100%. They couldn't afford to rest him. Cleveland had not run away with the division, and they had reinforcements coming in Santana and Polanco, Dozier could realistically explode at any time, and they still weren't sure what they might get from Sano and Buxton.

     

    Now, the pennant race is basically over. It makes a lot more sense to look ahead to next year. There is no reason to squeeze whatever production you can out of Buxton. So their priorities have changed. Sano can spend as long as it takes to master the strike zone again. Buxton can be given as long as it takes to get his offensive game back. Why not? What's the rush?

     

    I don't find these decisions inconsistent at all. Six weeks ago, they had a realistic chance to win the division. Now they don't. I think it's as simple as that.

     

    Personally I am in no hurry to watch Buxton and Sano flailing at sliders outside the zone. I'd much rather wait for them to return until they are ready to lay off those pitches, and knock the next one out of the park.

    Also, I don’t think Buxton needs the same access to the facilities and personnel that Sano does. It wasn’t so much as being demoted to high A as it was for Sano to have access to those specific facilities and personnel.
    Riverbrian

    Riverbrian 42,821

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    • Posted

     

    In the podcast you discuss the seemingly baffling inconsistency in treatment of Byron Buxton.

     

    First, they rushed him back when he is still injured, without any rehab.

     

    The second time they send him down, they gave him an extended stay in the minor leagues, even after his foot is seemingly healed.

     

    Here's one possible explanation.

     

    Earlier in the year, they considered themselves to be in a pennant race. So their priority was putting the best possible team on the field any given day to keep pace with the Indians in a  winnable division.

     

    They had good reason to do anything they could to hang in there, even if it meant Buxton manning centerfield at less than 100%.  They couldn't afford to rest him. Cleveland had not run away with the division, and they had reinforcements coming in Santana and Polanco, Dozier could realistically explode at any time, and they still weren't sure what they might get from Sano and Buxton.

     

    Now, the pennant race is basically over. It makes a lot more sense to look ahead to next year. There is no reason to squeeze whatever production you can out of Buxton. So their priorities have changed. Sano can spend as long as it takes to master the strike zone again. Buxton can be given as long as it takes to get his offensive game back. Why not? What's the rush?

     

    I don't find these decisions inconsistent at all. Six weeks ago, they had a realistic chance to win the division. Now they don't. I think it's as simple as that.

     

    Personally I am in no hurry to watch Buxton and Sano flailing at sliders outside the zone. I'd much rather wait for them to return until they are ready to lay off those pitches, and knock the next one out of the park. 

     

    This is one of the reasons why I've been saying that the front office pulled the plug. 

     

    Sano to single A is one example of pulling the plug. 

    Sending Romero down instead of Odorizzi is another example of pulling the plug

    Buxton doing an extended stay in Rochester is another example of pulling the plug. 

     

    Falvey or Lavine can be quoted about waiting and seeing before making an official declaration of pulling the plug. It doesn't matter... they have visibly pulled the plug by their actions. 

     

     



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