Most over-rated player in the last 30 years to retire after 2014 season

[Longdistancetwins]

I have never been a fan of Derek Jeter. But I too have watching this game for over 20 years and yes Jeter is overrated.

 

6) Think Jeter is a good teammate? Think again. Ask ARod when he first came over to the Yankees how he was met by Jeter, even though he willingly deferred and switched positions for him. Ask the upper brass who asked Jeter to swtich positions for the better of the team and were rebuffed. Ask every Yankee who has played for the team and wasn't part of the clique how they were treated. Does this happen other places, yes. But we are talking about Jeter.

 

Thought-provoking; I really can't venture an informed opinion, but I'm in NYC and I've had these semi-conscious thoughts. Thanks for saying it.

[one_eyed_jack]

I have never been a fan of Derek Jeter. But I too have watching this game for over 20 years and yes Jeter is overrated.

 

1) At no point throughout his career was he ever the best SS in the game. Probably not even top 3. Larkin, Ripken, Rodriguez, Garciaparra, Fernandez, Rollins, Tejida, Reyes, Ramirez... Not even including defensive stallwarts Vizquel and Ozzie. Too many names were consistantly listed above him.

 

2) Defensively he was horrendous. Pick your defensive rating, they all say the same thing.

 

3) Offensively he was very good. He also had all-stars batting around him for virtually every season in his career. He was seeing better pitches because you waould rather face Jeter than the behemoths behind him.

 

4) There is a degree of compiler going on here. Not real effective in the later years, but hanging on. Dave Winfield? Eddie Murray?

 

5) Not enough can be said about the media garbage here. Take him out of New York, and he becomes very good, not godlike. George Brett, Robin Yount, Craig Biggio.

 

6) Think Jeter is a good teammate? Think again. Ask ARod when he first came over to the Yankees how he was met by Jeter, even though he willingly deferred and switched positions for him. Ask the upper brass who asked Jeter to swtich positions for the better of the team and were rebuffed. Ask every Yankee who has played for the team and wasn't part of the clique how they were treated. Does this happen other places, yes. But we are talking about Jeter.

 

7) You can not use WS rings in any argument for any player concerning greatness. Greg Gagne for the Twins has 2 rings, Biggio has none. Does that make Gagne a better player? One players team impact in baseball is so negligable compared to other team sports, it shouldnt even be in the discussion

 

I am not going to argue whether or not Jeter is a HOF player. His offensive numbers are strong. His defensive numbers are equally bad (as Jeter played arguably the most important defensive position, these have to be part of the discussion). I will just be thankful that after this year I will be able to read ESPN again without having to to skip over the Jeter garbage.

 

1) Ripken? Fernandez? Come on, these guys were on the downsides of their careers when Jeter started.

 

2) Horrendous may be overstating it, but yeah, he probably did get more Gold Gloves than he deserved

 

3) I'm sure he was helped with that to some degree, but plenty of other guys have hit in front of great hitters and not produced the way Jeter did.

 

4) When a guy is doing things like getting over 200 hits and finishing in the top 10 in MVP voting, I think it's really difficult to dismiss him as a compiler.

 

5) Yes, I agree we wouldn't hear about Jeter ad nauseum if he played in flyover country. However the guys you mentioned were pretty damn good players, much better players than you're making Jeter out to be in your other points.

 

6) I don't think anyone posting here knows nearly enough to fairly or adequately judge how good or bad a teammate Jeter is or has been in his career.

 

7) Agree on this. Winning a World Series is a team accomplishment, not an individual one. I think the whole rings argument is way overdone, even with quarterbacks in the NFL who have a unique ability to impact a game.