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gil4

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"...isn’t anything possible? Kevin Garnett sure seems to think so."

 

Is KG coming back? That would be cool.

Oldgoat_MN

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Something I really hadn't considered before is that Johan might find it easier to try a comeback here than anywhere else.

 

Minnesota Twins fans love Johan. If he gets on the mound and has a bad day, the fans are not going to boo him. They may be disappointed, but you can't boo Johan Santana! (well, at least not the first couple of times he gets hammered)

 

This is the one place where the fans would be so solidly behind him that it would make his efforts easier. He will be granted more leeway here than anywhere else.

 

I wonder if anyone ever thinks about that sort of thing...

twinsfan34

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Good thoughts Old Goat.

 

I know I'd have a good deal of patience for him. To the extent, 5-7 starts he just can't get it done. Johan, can you pitch 2 innings in the bullpen. And if not. So be it.

 

Probably just thankful for those amazing years we had.

 

He should have had 3 Cy Youngs...advanced metrics weren't available soon enough for him.

 

Also, on advanced metrics, would Puckett have won the MVP in 1988 or in 1992. He actually had better WAR than Canseco ('88) and Eckersley ('92) both years.

Rosterman

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It would be a msot wonderful reunion. And, yes, the Twins do need a left-handed arm in the bullpen.

 

If they moved Diamond to the bullpen, they could have four lefties in the pen.

 

Wprley needs to go somewhere, too.

Oldgoat_MN

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Also' date=' on advanced metrics, would Puckett have won the MVP in 1988 or in 1992. He actually had better WAR than Canseco ('88) and Eckersley ('92) both years.[/quote']

 

Fun stuff to go back to.

In 1988 the OPS leaders in the AL were:

Boggs

Conseco

Greenwell

McGriff

Winfield and Puckett (Gaetti was next).

Kirby was 2nd in WAR to Boggs. It's actually Boggs who got screwed that year.

 

In 1992 Kirby again came in 6th in OPS, again right behind Winfield. He had the highest WAR of any position player. You could certainly make a case for him as MVP that year.

 

Eck had an incredible year, such that the 1992 MVP was going to Eckersley and nothing could keep that from happening. For 80 innings of work. Eck had a great year, but Most Valuable Player of the American League? In 80 innings?

 

I hope in retrospect all those in the BBWAA in 1992 are looked down on a little bit for that particular vote. Shamed just enough so that that might never happen again.

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