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http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=min Just came out today. Thoughts?

Right. If he's touching 102 (actually, not sure where this report came from or how credible it is, whose radar gun?) in high school the average high school kid isn't touching that. As for a high school prospect touching 102 with little command or secondary offerings, look no further than Tyler Kolek. He has struggled mightily in pro ball, as a starter in pro ball he was not throwing as hard (by my understanding - low to mid 90s). To top it off his elbow since blown up. I'm not making a comparison between Greene and Kolek here, just an example of a recent HS prospect who could throw hard but struggled without anything other than his fastball in pro ball. This tweet is from 2014. This was Eric Longenhagens report on Kolek from this past offseason. Scouting Report We’re waiting to see how much of what made Kolek the second-overall pick in 2014 is still extant after he returns from Tommy John this year. He was touching 100 with a hammer curveball at Area Code tryouts in 2013 and, while his velocity held firm, his breaking-ball quality waned as the draft approached. (He had started tinkering.) The body went backward, and scouts were growing concerned about the violence in his delivery. Then, in pro ball, Kolek started struggling to miss bats and throw strikes (the latter was expected, at least initially) throughout both of his pro seasons. He looked much better, physically, but his fastball was sitting more 93-96 (still good) and his secondary stuff was very inconsistent. He had TJ later in the spring of 2016 and probably won’t be back until May or June of 2017. The upside here (upper-90s, plus curve, and some sort of viable offspeed pitch) is high, but the risk is enormous, even independent of injury.

Eric Longenhagen prospects chat over at fangraphs today.. Adam: In a deep draft for college arms, does that make it easier for one of the top 3 teams to take a risk on Hunter Greene knowing they can probably get someone closer to the majors with their next pick? Eric A Longenhagen: It’s an interesting idea but it’s easier to move the prep kids back than it is college. Philip: Is JB Bukuaskas a starter for you? Eric A Longenhagen: Yes but not a total slam dunk. I’m less apt to write up someone as a pen arm because of height if the arm works well so it doesn’t bother me that he’s 6′, but there is some effort there. He’s filthy, though. Conrad: “(Nick) Allen began swinging lefthanded in the offseason, and his swing shows promise.” Thoughts? Eric A Longenhagen: Thinking a SoCal trip is a must this spring. Seiya: Could you see the Padres taking DL Hall at 3, and giving out higher bonuses to later picks? Eric A Longenhagen: Not sure. Preller was at Vandy on Thursday to see Wright (so was Boras, btw) and they really only have one other pick to play with big money…there’s less room for creativity this year. But I like how much you like Hall because I think he’s a top 10 guy, too. YouthBerry: How does J.J. Schwarz of Florida (2017 draft) compare to 2016’s college Catchers like Zack Collins and Matt Thaiss (moving off C I know)? Eric A Longenhagen: More power than Thaiss, more physical projection than Collins, I think Collins has a better chance to hit, better pitch recog and ability to deal with offspeed stuff. YouthBerry: Thoughts on Jeren kendall’s hit tool? He struck out 122 times in 435 college at-bats (28%), how concerning is that? Eric A Longenhagen: Yeah, you’ve nailed the most difficult thing to nail down about his profile. The bat speed is there, for sure. And he has a good approach. But man, that swing path is kind of odd. If I knew he were going to hit for power, I wouldn’t care. But I’m not sure about that yet, either. Adam: It seems like Hunter Greene has a REALLY good fastball and a lot of projection. Is there more to his current repertoire or is his ranking dependent on his athleticism and aptitude? Eric A Longenhagen: Nope, I think you’re on it. The slider will flash and got better as last year went along. I saw him in the spring during his junior year, then all during the showcases and his feel for it improved. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a solid 55 this spring. David: Good to see you out at USD last week! Since Wright’s disappointing start speaks for itself and Kendall spent the whole time getting walked and trying to bunt… what’s your read on Will Toffey? Somewhere in the middle of Day 2 of the draft? Eric A Longenhagen: I though Wright was fine (it’s February) and yeah, I didn’t like some of Corbin’s decisions that limited my look at Kendall. I liked Toffey. Good feet during in and out, plus arm, hands are kind of inconsistent. Great approach. Probably not prototypical power for third so yeah, day two to a team that prioritizes approach. Jean: I’d say Brice Turang has the following future ratings: 60 Hit, 60 Run, 50 Power, 55 Defense, 55 Arm. This is obviously very early, though would you agree with these tool grades? Eric A Longenhagen: You might be heavy on the power (if it’s game) but otherwise I don’t have a quarrel with you. Michael: Have you gotten the chance to see Hans Crouse? What do you think of him? Eric A Longenhagen: Yes, several times. Was encouraging his stuff ticked up late last summer, the delivery is unique and tough to confidently say he’s a starter.

I'm in for joining.

It's not current. It's future projection. If it was current, he would be MLB ready superstar and beyond a lock to go #1. And I wasn't saying those are my projections for him I was just putting the post above into scouting tools. People are projecting his secondary pitches to be plus based on his current athleticism.

Hunter Greene - just hit 102mph w/ movement, plus slider, changeup, and command won't turn 18 til August, late first rounder as a shortstop (plus-plus power, hit tool avg), difficult for hitters to elevate pitches 80 FB, 60 SL, 60 CH, 60 command 50 hit, 70 power at shortstop well thats just Shohei Otani status

Both of them should be in the rotation. Duffey as well but if not I'd rather he be starting in AAA than in the bullpen.

McKay had 9 strikeouts in 6 innings and also hit a home run at the plate. Jheremy Brown ‏@JBrownPG 2h2 hours ago Good start to 2017 for @UofLBaseball LHP Brendan McKay. K'd side, threw 13 FBs & 11 were @ 93 mph. Hard downer CB @ 84, late bite. #MLBDraft keithlawVerified account ‏@keithlaw 2h2 hours ago Lefty Brendan McKay of @GoCards was 91-94 in the first here in Clearwater Steve Givarz ‏@SteveGivarz 2h2 hours ago .@UofLBaseball LHP Brendan McKay cruising through 2, 4 K's two weak 6-3's. FB 91-93 T94, CB 81-83 with hard action. Jheremy Brown ‏@JBrownPG 16m16 minutes ago Over 6 innings @UofLBaseball LHP Brendan McKay: 81 pitches/60 strikes. 9 Ks-0 BB. 25 swing & misses; 20 FB, 4 CB, 1 CH

And the Vandy/USD game is in the books. USD wins 3-2.. random thoughts - Jeren Kendall 2/4 (or 2/5) with a single and a triple, was not tested much in the outfield. - Riley Adams (top C prospect for USD) homered off of Wright in the 1st, hit a deep warning track fly later in the game to CF. - Kyle Wright was sitting 94-97 FB per Eric Longenhagen, slider 84-87 and curveball 79-81. Struck out two and walked three through 5 or so innings.. lost control of the zone as his pitch count went up and fastball velocity dipped to 90-91 by the end of his outing per Chris Crawford (though it is the first start of the season and February, not a huge deal). He showed why he is a projected 1st rounder at this stage of the upcoming draft in the early innings. - LHP Nick Sprengel looked good on the mound for USD, not draft eligible until 2018. Fastball was sitting (per Longenhagen) 87-93 and was throwing a changeup that was giving hitters fits.. struckout 9 through 5 innings. - Expected more from Vandy 2B Alonzo Jones but just the first game of the season. Was overmatched against Sprengel and his changeup and made a throwing error at 2B. And Jeren Kendall came up in the 9th with runners on 1st and 2nd, no outs, Vandy down by 1, pops up a bunt (!) that is caught by C Riley Adams who guns it to 2nd for the force out as the runner was advancing to 3rd.. Never Bunt!

Yes he is. According to Eric Longenhagen, fastball 93-97, slider 84-87 (55 FV) , curveball 78-81. Gave up a bomb to Riley Adams in Adams first AB of the season, slider on the outside corner for a called strike, slider away for a swinging strike and then a slider over the inside part of the plate for a home run. Adams is a top ranked C prospect for the 2017 draft. Kendall is 2/2 with a triple that I thought was going to be a double and a hard single up the middle.

Preller and Kenny Williams are there apparently.

Kendall leads the season off with a triple

For those that were planning on watching this game, here is a short game preview from HeroSports. http://herosports.com/best-college-baseball-matchups-for-opening-weekend-vanderbilt-san-diego-unc-brendan-mckay VANDERBILT AT SAN DIEGO This may not be the most competitive series to open the year, but in terms of prospects, it's tough to beat this. Jeren Kendall and Kyle Wright are both legitimate first-overall candidates, which makes every series the Commodores play in a must-watch. San Diego also has a potential first-rounder in 2017 in athletic catcher Riley Adams, and performing well against the loaded Vanderbilt pitching staff will be a big help to his draft stock. On top of the 2017 prospects, both teams have potential first-round selections in 2018, as well in Vanderbilt's Chandler Day and Ethan Paul and San Diego left-hander Nick Sprengel. I'll also be there, so look for the big guy in the grey hat. I'll say hi. Editor's Note: Ask, pretty-please style, and Chris will buy you a soda. He doesn't know how to say 'no.' edit: Games at 8 CT, not 8 ET!

In any case if the best player available is a bat we should go that route. That was the point of this discussion, to not limit ourselves to just scouting catchers and go with a pitcher like suggested.

Yes that's bad. Injuries have taken his profile down. It remains to be seen if he ever gets to where he was pre-draft (the odds are against him). There's still a glimmer of hope that he could carve out an MLB career at the back end of a rotation, as a middle reliever or up and down arm but one more injury plagued/poor performance minor league season and he'll be a write off. Such is life with pitchers.

Not gonna argue that. He was BPA to many on draft day.

Just got the go ahead from Nick to post this. https://livestream.com/sandiego/events/6923972 Vandy vs U San Diego tonight, 8 PM ET. Looking at the baseball streams the school had last year it is pretty good quality (has a scoreboard, HD picture and commentators).

It doesn't have to be any position. That's how you end up with Mark Appel over Kris Bryant, Appel being regarded as low risk of a 1-1 pick as you could take at the time and now he's bad. Take the best talent please!

If anyone wants a website link to watch this game feel free to send me a PM. Not sure if it is against TwinsDaily rules to post it here or even discuss it but mods feel free to delete this if it is.

http://herosports.com/mlb-draft/mock-draft-1-twins-vanderbilt-jeren-kendall-reds-padres-rays-hunter-greene Here is a mock draft article from HeroSports. They have done a great job with a lot of content over the past few weeks and not much to show for it (145 followers on twitter - https://twitter.com/HEROSportsBSB) 1. MINNESOTA TWINS JEREN KENDALL, OF VANDERBILT There's a few different ways the Twins can play this, but assuming they take the best player on the board, that's Kendall, in this writer's humble estimation. There's no real weakness, and he could move quickly through the Minnesota system. -- Christopher Crawford

It's not immature. It could have been stated way worse than what I said. It's just my opinion of him. He's very stubborn in his ways and refuses to adapt, which is rather important.

Law isn't very smart. I don't put much stock into what he says, or his rankings.