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  1. alarp33
    Again, definitions. I think he’s finally turned into a good middle of the rotation starter. For me there’s maybe 20-30 guys in all of baseball I’d label as Aces or 2’s, Gibson wouldn’t be one of them If Berrios is your 2, Gibson your 3.. it might be a pretty good rotation. Make that 1+2... meh
  2. alarp33
    I for one do not judge a pitcher by WAR over a 4 month period. Especially a nearly 31 year old with no track record of sustained success When I say contender I mean contend for a title. I don’t include a team like the Brewers. Gibson wouldn’t be in the post season rotation for the Astros.
  3. alarp33
    It’s very likely your definition of #2 is far different than others definition. If Kyle Gibson is your 2nd best starter it’s unlikely you are a serious contender.
  4. alarp33
    I understand what you are saying now. How you phrased it in your previous post is what confused me. I wouldn't trade Gibson if I was convinced he was going to sustain solid production. I'm in the camp where I'm still not totally convinced
  5. alarp33
    This seems contradictory? If they trade Gibson because they don't believe he'll sustain this performance, I'm guessing they'd aim higher than "someone like Gibson". Also, you don't know what the net gain is, because you don't know what return they would get for him, or who their potential off-season targets will be (and what they'd cost). I certainly could see a scenario where they could get a nice piece for Gibson but replace him in the rotation easily enough
  6. alarp33
    1) I never suggested they get rid of Gibson and Odorizzi, and I'm not sure anyone did. It's unlikely they trade either in the next week, and extremely unlikely they trade both. 2) There is a trade market in the off-season as well as free agency. The options are not "pay $12 million for marginal back end performance" or "$20 million + multiple years for a good player"
  7. alarp33
    They will have the 2019 off-season as well. They don't have to finalize their 2019 rotation this July
  8. alarp33
    Dee was drafted out of CC, not out of high school. Nick has reached every minor league level at a much younger age. I'm just confused by what your criteria is because you haven't given a reason yet why he hasn't lived up to his brother?
  9. alarp33
    You literally wrote he's not living up to his brother. His brother was not a productive Major leaguer until he was 26/27. Nick Gordon is 22
  10. alarp33
    When his brother turned 26 years old he had played in 181 games and compiled a bWAR of -0.7 Nick Gordon is 22 and has played 50 games in AAA
  11. alarp33
    Giving up on a 22 year old who’s played 50 games in AAA is odd to say the least
  12. alarp33
    Ummmm no, no one expected Dozier to be in AAA his 1st season in minor league ball. The point is Gordon is a 22 year old who's already reached AAA. He has a lot of time and development to go before he reaches his peak. This really is not a difficult concept. Have you never considered what age a player is before?
  13. alarp33
    Playing in college does not change the fact that he was 22 in rookie ball, while Gordon is in AAA. Those are their actual ages
  14. alarp33
    Yeah, and I think my bigger point is.. we know he's a slow starter, but that doesn't excuse the start to this season he had. He is a large part of the reason this team is going to miss the playoffs. I frankly don't care if he heats up at this point, the season was sunk in April and May..
  15. alarp33
    There seems to be not just on the this board, but in general, a very weird Dozier can do no wrong stance. Any other player who seemingly was the best on the team and still in their prime, would have been run out of town if the team had high expectations, and they tanked the way Dozier did for 3 months. All you hear about Dozier is "well everyone knows hes a slow starter"
  16. alarp33
    We are in agreement if Sano doesn't pan out the Twins are in trouble, and that he is a very vital cog. I guess my point is, why not plan for him to be your every day 1st baseman, or 1B/DH... and have an Escobar, or FA ready to go at 3B. Doesn't that seem less risky than getting rid of your only other 3B option on the roster. Sure, for that plan to work Sano needs to stay healthy and hit, but to me that seems more likely to happen at 1B than at 3b. Not to mention, they are likely a better defensive team with Sano at 1B and Escobar at 3B than they are with Sano at 3b
  17. alarp33
    There is enough concern surrounding Sano and his bat, conditioning, etc. I would not advise the Twins add to that giant concern by saying he has to be able to stay at 3B for 5 years to be valuable.
  18. alarp33
    Right, I get your point. But providing 2017 splits and ignoring age, 2018, cost, position etc. makes it impossible to answer the question you asked at the end of your post
  19. alarp33
    I'm supposed to answer what player I want in 2019 based on a 1st half / 2nd half split of 2017?
  20. alarp33
    Always depends on the deal offered, no? I wouldn't actively pursue a trade of Gibson, but if someone wants to blow them away? Definitely
  21. alarp33
    I think I misunderstood the post I was replying to. I thought you were saying “I’ve always said we should only do this trade if Buxton and Sano are legit”. But you’re actually saying we should roll the dice and just hope they are. I disagree, but I misunderstood
  22. alarp33
    This trade has never been about 2019+2020 only, if it was why wouldn’t they trade their entire system?
  23. alarp33
    You're not hurting yourself if they don't??? Giving away 6 years of control of a Royce Lewis + Fernando Romero (hypothetical trade offer to MIA) is not hurting yourself???
  24. alarp33
    You've said multiple times, over multiple threads you have to pick a path now, it will be too late once you know what you have in Buxton/ Sano. From earlier this thread; I'd guess that once they "know" if Buxton and Sano are good, no 2.5 year elite player will be available in the time that they "know" that. So, you are then trading real assets for half a year, most likely, and we'll get to read about how that's a terrible idea. Which I know, because I've read that here over and over. EDIT: More... Either we believe in Sano and Buxton, or we don't. But if we wait for perfect information, it will be less likely to be successful, because we have not added talent around them. And if we to find out they are bad, and didn't trade Gibson at his peak, we lose value. So, pick a path that isn't the "play not to lose" path, that dooms mediocre teams to stay mediocre.
  25. alarp33
    For what it's worth, I think this is reasonable to want as well, I disagree but people are entitled to their opinion. What I haven't seen from anyone who wants to trade the farm for Realmuto is the plan to be competitive in 2019+2020 (his only 2 years of control), while remaining in reality (Machado is not signing here), or other than crossing your fingers Buxton and Sano are stars (which certainly doesn't look promising as we sit here today)
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