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  1. That is a good point. In Terry's case, you can at least point to our standing in farm system rankings, success in the draft (Buxton, Kohl, Burdi), and success via trade (Meyer, May), as well as signings like Thorpe. Hughes has been a coup. Gardy's record has been bad, obviously. But it is hard to point to any wins. He has not won and it appears he has been making decisions to try and win over develop young players....so that is not a good combination.
  2. I don't dispute that he would be cheaper, but Shields is better in my opinion. The age difference is just one year. Shields has a career ERA of 3.76. Ervin is at 4.14.
  3. That all makes sense. A year from now we will know how close we are. I would think a core rotation of Meyer, Hughes, Gibson, and Nolasco could be one of the better rotations in the AL with the addition of an ace pitcher (assuming Nolasco's year this year was injury induced and he is better than that and Meyer will be good as I believe). Then it would require Buxton and Sano to come up and show promise.
  4. Shields will make more than $15M. It may not be 7 years like the younger guys but it will be more than $15.
  5. Here is a sports metaphor. The best players cost the most money. The best players help win games. Therefore, spending money can assist in winning games.
  6. That sounds overly negative to me. That one player will have a WAR of 25 and get us to where we need to be.
  7. I agree with the what will happen, 100%. But I don't buy the we can't afford it game. We could sign either one and have a payroll still less than it was in 2010. We all would likely agree that Terry will never feel like he got a deal by signing a #1 in free agency and it will be a risk level he is uncomfortable with. Good summary.
  8. The flip side is you never put your chips in the middle, therefore you never win a hand.
  9. I don't buy the 7 year issue. Mauer is done in what, 3 years? So a deal for Lester or Scherzer would basically replace that one, maybe a few million more. Meyer, Buxton and Sano would be under control for 5-6 years, starting in 0-1 year (hopefully they will be extended but it likely won't be much more than arbitration/rookie money) . Dozier is not going to get a $15M dollar deal. At that point we would have younger guys making less, like hopefully Berrios, Thorpe, Kohl, Gordon, etc. And we are not even factoring in revenues will go up in the next 7 years. I am not saying we will do it. I have watched this team too long to get my hopes up. But we could if we wanted to. If the Tigers can go up to $170M or whatever, we should be able to go up to $100M
  10. This graph shows them at 16th out of 30th in 2013. I am guessing the top 15 provide revenue for the bottom 15. But that is pretty close to middle in my book. Not to mention the capital appreciation of the franchise pre and post staduim. From a ROI perspective I am guessing we are top 2-3 over the last 5-6 years. We are close to $700M now and we were just over $200M pre-stadium if I recall. 350% return. http://www.statista.com/statistics/193645/revenue-of-major-league-baseball-teams-in-2010/
  11. If ever a time existed where the Twins could go out and get an elite starter, it would be right now. Revenues are still high from the stadium and I think they will stay high with new talent coming up, which will hopefully propel more wins and interest. More importantly, we are going to have a ton of rookie contracts, and a few arbitration contracts sprinkled into about $55-60M in veteran contracts (Mauer, Suzuki, Nolasco, Hughes, Pelfrey, and Perkins). I am not holding my breathe though. I am really not sure that would be the best move anyway. Teams like New York would be able to get through a blow of doling out a contact like that and having it blow up in their face. If we go back 10-15 years, I can think of several terrible long and expensive pitching contracts. Mike Hampton, Al Leiter, Barry Zito, and others. CC, Verlander, and Tanaka don't look good from here. My big worry after we paid Nolasco was that he would get hurt and that would somehow validate our hesitation towards them.....I think that deal will make us more cautious. To the point of the article, the Twins only have one place to upgrade and counterpoint that we may lose 88 games so how could that possibly be? I think while it sounds odd, the Twins do only have a few spots to upgrade via free agency because we have to hold CF, 3B, and an SP spot for prospects 1-3 who are not part of the 88 loss problem this year. I do think SS is a spot we could upgrade, as I think Santana at SS = Pinto at catcher in the Twins eyes.
  12. I think it just needs to be qualified, fans want an MLB ready upgrade at SP or LF, without giving up Buxton, Sano, Meyer, Kohl, etc. That is likely not happening unless it is a salary dump or something like that.
  13. Good news is you can save your $1,200
  14. I think Nolasco has had a pretty good career and was hurt this year. His next three years should be better than his last year, IMO. It would be a silly time to trade him. He can be a #3-4 starter in this league still. BJ Upton looks like a very high K, very low BA, and a poor attitude. So roughly owed the same amount of money with an extra year, I would rather have Nolasco. Minor is slightly appealing, but he is not better than Meyer, Gibson, or Hughes IMO.
  15. Agree, the Parmelee expiriment has run its course. He does not deserve more chances.
  16. I am guessing you thought I meant Nunez/Parmelee in the OF as a future plan. That was my rest of the year plan so we can get Santana reps at SS (where he has a shot at being a fixture). My point was, we were told Santana had to play CF because he is basically the only guy that can play there. That is not the case anymore, therefore we don't have a dire situation in CF any longer for the rest of the is year. So we should be able to take a step back, take a deep breathe, and re-evaluate why Santana is not getting reps at short stop.
  17. I think SS is a place that needs more attention than it appears. I think you have a risk of the Twins viewing Santana's defense at SS like Pinto catching. They don't really come out and say it, but actions speak louder than anything else. The excuse was that we needed a CF and we had no options. Schafer has been here 19 games and Santana has played SS in two of those, giving him a total of 19 starts on the year at short. They could roll with Schafter in CF, Arcia and some combo of Nunez/Parmelee in the OF. The situation is not dire anymore, especially on a team that is 15 games out. Then you have the fact that both Santana and Escobar are playing way above their minor numbers.
  18. I agree completely. Maybe he is closer to the 8-13 range....but he has a ton of value and we could justify the $3-4M. We definitely should have that laying around. I would argue the Red Sox had guys like that on their bench/platooning last year. Nava had a .831 OPS but didn't get a majority of reps on the OF. Mike Carp was a utility guy and ended with an .885 OPS. The Rays have done this for a few years. They had five guys on their bench last year with over a .700 OPS. Plouffe's .740 could turn to .790 by sitting him against righties here and there.
  19. I agree he has improved and a year from now we could have two CF types in the OF with him. Buxton could shade towards him with Rosario/Hicks in the other corner. You probably can't rule out Santana being in that mix too.
  20. My actual quote: "That sounds like a decent plan if Sano sticks. For those who want to move Plouffe now, I just don't know what the rush is with Plouffe, when the downside risk is we need to go out and find a 3B." It was implied the the downside risk if Sano can't stick at 3B. I have not read a single scouting report that is confident he can play 3B defensively. I am hoping for a future without stop gaps (Nunez and Escobar)
  21. That sounds like a decent plan if Sano sticks. For those who want to move Plouffe now, I just don't know what the rush is with Plouffe, when the downside risk is we need to go out and find a 3B. We have none internally. Most of the good ones in the league are locked up on long term deals. Teams that have good 3B prospects are not willing to move them. I don't see a huge difference between Plouffe's trade value now and a year from now. He will have one fewer year of control, but he is not going to command a ton of money when he hits free agency. We have had a revolving door there since Koskie and I just don't think Eduardo Escobar is a capable fill-in on a team that will win a division. By all accounts, Plouffe is improving on offense and defense. Most scouting reports seem really sketchy regarding Sano sticking at 3B, so it seems like a bad risk-reward to me.
  22. I think the issue is scarcity at the position. If you go to MLB.com, he is 12th in OPS, 1st in 2B, and 19th in HR at the position. This tends to exclude players that have only played a litte. But we could do worse than him at 3B. So I don't think the FO is enamored with him at all, I just think he is the best we have unless Sano knocks him off 3B. Or they move Mauer there which nobody has really talked about. http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp#sectionType=sp&sortColumn=ops&season=2014&league_code='MLB'&statType=hitting&game_type='R'&elem=%5Bobject+Object%5D&tab_level=child&click_text=Sortable+Player+hitting&season_type=ANY&page=1&ts=1409064529763&sortOrder='desc'&extended=0&position='5'
  23. I agree that Plouffe is the 3B until someone can take it from him. My guess is Sano and I think it is in the best interest of the team if Sano can play 3B. I don't really worry about him not being able to make the throw to 1B after tommy john. Plouffe gives us options. As a floor of a bench bat that can mash lefties and play multiple positions, that is a nice floor. Best case he can hit enough for LF or bring something back via trade. You could do worse at 3B than a .737 OPS. I think the Twins would be foolish to trade him until we know Sano can stick at 3B however.
  24. Agreed. Athletic and good arm. The Twins will laugh that off, then roll with Willingham, Arcia types.
  25. I agree. I don't think the Twins view him as a viable catcher option. So I think his future here could be an emergency catcher (3rd catcher) and backup DH. Please don't snicker, this could be an actual roster spot for us.
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