I think this is, and I don't mean this as an insult, "old school thinking". The data is clear, the third time through a lineup isn't good for most SP, the 4th time is a disaster. We, MLB, needs to change its thinking about bullpen/starter usage. 4 starters, 2 long men (with 1-2 in AAA waiting to come up), and 2 1-2 inning guys, plus your 3 "regular" bullpen guys will be tried by a team in the next 3-5 years. And they'll win a lot of games......if they do it as a plan, not because their pitching stinks.