i would argue that Gibson should have been up earlier, as it seemed he got tired. But it may have just been "talent", which would be depressing. As for wasted years, we'll just diagree. Signing and playing Doumit was a waste. If you are going to lose, sign AAA free agents or trade for blocked guys, or spend some real money (more like this year) on good players, not on crappy players. I don't know how to look at the last three years as anything other than a waste of time for the most part. They were bad, they were old, they didn't go get young players at the MLB level......yes, it is clear they minors have been improved, and that part was not a waste. But man, the MLB team, it was worse than treading water, imo. YMMV, of course.