I am arguing that it doesn't work very well in the modern era, since no one believes anything any GM or manager says, and they have more data at their disposal than ever. Just because it worked in the past, doesn't mean it will work in the future. So, I think we can disagree about whether or not we can disagree....... Or, maybe you are saying the Twins are doing this to gain leverage, thinking that still works.....which would be, imo, and indictment on where they are in terms of understanding the proliferation of information today compared to even 10 years ago in MLB. I'm saying they aren't really gaining any leverage here.....even if they are trying to.