how much time, that's always the question, isn't it? He was still involved in the BS led years, and he's been in total charge for 4-5 years now. How long is long enough? Right now, it is hard to even say the process is working, let alone the outcomes are. If they were graduating a player or two a year, that were very good/great....and weren't making the same mistakes over and over (see CF and bullpen), I might have more confidence that they are on a great path. But, it is pretty hard to see that path right now with a lot of confidence. At least it is for me. Admittedly, I never wanted TR back, and that clouds my thoughts on the last few years. That does not, imo, make my conclusions wrong.