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I'm with this line of thinking. I think the Twins would still find a way to afford both of them, granted one could present trade value that it's realized and they'd have to pull the trigger on MLB ready talent (e.g. Wil Myers, Hanley Ramirez). But we afforded Morneau and Mauer, both were about as spendy as any duo in the league. Mauer was 2nd (well, 4 players had less than $500k annually per year, so 5th) and Morneau was 31st in 2011. Of the teams not the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Phillies, Mets, Cubs, and Tigers - that was as high as any duo. The Twins were also willing to pay Hrbek and Puckett top dollars when they had a chance to become Free Agents. They made Jack Morris the highest paid player in 1991. He and Puckett were top 5. The Twins have proven they'd pay their own as well as anyone.

I'm heavily in this camp. I view SS's as RB's in the NFL. There's a few Adrian Peterson's, but after age 30, even the Adrian Peterson's have maybe 1-3 years. I think Florimon/Escobar are fine for 2014. 2 WAR for $500K...not a horrible investment.

A guy who's never died before getting his head chopped off could say the exact same thing. I never died before today. Not a good enough reason to justify not keeping the 2nd RD pick.

I think this 1st part of this is absolutely true... Garza, Jimenez, and Santana are waiting...and in waiting, they will get that extra $2M-$5M per season as a result. For the Twins, I'm not particular enamored with any of the 3 for the Salary/Years and the lost Draft pick. I haven't looked to the 2015 Free Agency class either - maybe 1 year of patience would be prudent.

Very good stuff. I respect Drew a lot for coming back from that horrific ankle injury, which are way harder to come back from than most injuries, e.g. a knee as the range of motion and requirements of an ankle are so much different. Great stuff on Peralta, makes sense. I only felt Peralta was better tangibly because of his offense. I wouldn't want Drew more than 2 years, unless the price is under $8/9M a season. He'll be 31 during the 2014 season, which, as you eluded to, I don't feel he'll be able to warrant the position defensively by age 33 and his bat, likely isn't good enough to warrant a shift to 3B for instance.

How does Jhonny Peralta (age 32 in '14, 4yr/$53M) compare to Drew? Why did the Cardinals go with Peralta over Drew?

These numbers put Drew's numbers in 81 games at Target Field?

Based on his splits, the Twins will get him ABs and experience no matter where he's at. He played LF, CF, RF, 1B, and DH with Cedar Rapids. With the AFL experience (sorta like a AA+), I would also guess he'll start at A+.

Garza does cost a high #2 Draft pick... Plus salary. And if he's anywhere near $20M...I'm sure the Twins will wait for the Tanaka fall-out before they sign him. But then again, Garza's camp is likely waiting for that too.

This is great. Glad you get to (and go to) see these guys in person. For those who've played baseball, as many who are on Twins Daily likely have, you can tell a lot from those in person encounters if you can get close enough to the players. That's one reason I love minor league baseball. I can usually get within 5-10 seats of the field of most any game for on the cheap, meanwhile MLB games I typically rely on free tickets to get that close instead of popping down $90+ for a ticket. I've love to see any more stuff you have like this. I was 'positive' on Kepler, but with this, I'm higher. MLB Network showed a few AFL games (only one of Glendale other than the AFL All-Star Game), he's bigger than websites say "6'4'' 180" and also was nice to see him on 1B. He's very agile. If my wife would let me, and if I had more vacation, I'd love to venture down to Ft. Myers this Spring to see a number of these guys play in person. Hoping for a health 2014 for him, so we can talk about when he might come up in 2015 (mid season or Sept).

According to Sabermetrics, Florimon is in the discussion for the #2 defensive SS in baseball. Simmons is nearly better than the next 4 guys combined. Gold Glove winners in BOLD. 2nd Tier Shortstops are in blue, only 2nd tier because Simmons creates his own tier, otherwise they're be 1st tier or '1st Division'. That said, for $500k, I like Florimon. I think he can improve too. Also, he likely would have finished higher in this if he had played more games, he only started 127 games. Tulowitzski also only played 126 games. Komza had 143 and Escobar had 158. [TABLE=width: 316] Player Team SDI Andrelton Simmons ATL 29.3 Pete Kozma STL 8.7 Troy Tulowitzki COL 8.5 Alcides Escobar KC 8.1 Pedro Florimon MIN 7.6 Yunel Escobar TB 6.2 Elvis Andrus TEX 5.3 Jean Segura MIL 3.7 Zack Cozart CIN 3.6 Jhonny Peralta DET 2.7 Brandon Crawford SF 2.6 J.J. Hardy BAL 1.6 Alexei Ramirez CHW 0.4 Stephen Drew BOS -0.8 Everth Cabrera SD -2 Ian Desmond WSH -2.5 Adeiny Hechavarria MIA -2.8 Starlin Castro CHC -5.2 Jimmy Rollins PHI -6.1 Asdrubal Cabrera CLE -7.6 Erick Aybar LAA -7.9 Jed Lowrie OAK -11.4 [/TABLE] For all results, please go to: http://sabr.org/latest/sabr-defensive-index-2013-results

On Hicks, It seems he's a natural RH. Did he just struggle with the curveball/slider as a RH vs RHP or something? Btw, last year as a RH vs RHP, he hit .500 and had an OBP of .667, which is good enough to hit leadoff or third or forth for my team.* *He was 1-for-2, with a BB in 3 PA http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=hicksaa01&year=Career&t=b

This is the guy who's got Education's ear.

I don't see how it's hard to say 8 Twins are on the top 101. I haven't followed other teams close enough to say that sounds like too much. Most gurus think the Twins have the #1 or #2 system in MLB. Then you have teams like the Braves, Angels, White Sox, Giants, Brewers...don't have much. Maybe 1-2 guys that hit the top 100. Kohl Stewart, Trey Ball, and Hunter Harvey are HS pitchers who made the top 100. If Thorpe had put up those numbers his SR of high school instead of the Rookie League, he'd be a 1st RD Draft pick. And perhaps higher than Trey Ball, if not Stewart.

Yeah. I have a friend who has worked with him and other A&M athletes on their PR. He says, "I'm a college student just like everybody else." But he's not, he's the Heisman Trophy winner, on National TV, and has a chance to play in the NFL someday and make millions of dollars, which makes him not like every body else.

And because Thrylos and Willihammer are learking nearby, the advanced metrics. (though, they could surely provide more) Sano's BABIP is the lowest of the bunch. And it's quite low. Stats courtesy of Fangraphs.

Also, I don't think the part on Sano is "optimism''...it didn't say he'd start the season at 3B...but rather "he shouldn't need much seasoning." Here's a look at the game's two most recent 80 power grade prospects (Giancarlo Stanton, Bryce Harper). Both made the jump from a 'mediocre' AA performance the year before into 100+ games at the ML level the following year. Sano actually had better numbers than both of them at AA (see pink highlighted area). So based on the performances of Harper and Stanton, albeit a very small sample size, we should expect 22+ HR this season. Incidentally, both Harper and Stanton had exactly 22 HR and 59 RBI their rookie season. Stats courtesy of Baseball-Reference.

Aaron Hicks should bounce back. He got into a funk or something. There's nothing in his history that would suggest he'd have any sort of season like he had last season, except last season. I just can't see him being a flame in the pan, one try .192 hitter in MLB. His hit tool and BB/SO patience would suggest he's more than that.

I watched 3 interviews after being drafted, one with Gonsalves. Stewart is very intelligent. He stood up for Johnny Manziel, which was questionable. But he's very smart in comparison and won't just 'answer' a question that's politically correct. He'll be honest. He'll say, "I don't know." He talked about the hardships of minor league ball and going by bus. He's pretty smart kid, I came away encouraged. He was very respectful of Terry Ryan and authority, you could tell in his speech. The only negative was he stood up for Manziel, when he's clearly a moron. But that's a football guy, you stand by your guys. I see that as two-fold - one a great teammate guy - but two, maybe a weakness, in that make sure it's for the right reasons.

Yep. Replacing a teacher is easier than all the paperwork. Lawsuit or fire a teacher. No brainer. Teachers are disposable, thus back to Marta Shearing's post - "Teachers are a dime a dozen." That's what administrators, laws, parents, and students have demanded they be. They don't want real teachers, because real teachers practice discipline and accountability. Learning is something to be owned, not given.

A Standardized Mathematics Curriculum You hit the nail on the head. Mathematics is a universal language. 2 + 2 using whole base 10 positive integers is always 10 whether you're in Japan, Germany, Brazil, or Minnesota. It would be the most logical choice to standardize and there's some leeway in this regard - at least on state levels. It would help for kids transferring districts to states and the like. The problem is with Mathematics they're trying to re-invent the wheel. Gauss, Newton, Leibnitz, LaPlace, et al - all their math still applies. School districts have administrators who are basically politicians. They're in a lot of pies. What's a big factor of housing costs? School quality or reputation. The ever so pressing: "You want a good education for your kids, don't you?" "Your kids' education is worth the extra money, aren't they?" They have to differentiate their school as 'innovative' and that means having something different, a better presentation, and 'improved methods' and 'new technologies' than other school districts. So administrators who are into jumping up jobs and getting districts popular and increasing revenue will dump the teachers every time. They can adjust. If they don't, can always find new teachers. My Experience In Texas, every kid is now starting at Tier 1 level. It basically means a teacher is now primarily responsible for discerning the inner workings of all 140 of his students. Learning styles (tactile, audible, visual, etc) and we have to write reports on it and have learning accommodations for each students' learning style. Try teaching a single lesson plan to 25-35 teenagers. Now they're stacking the bar and saying you have to teach 25-35 individualized learning plans. Then add the parents who don't want to deal with their kids and get them tested for everything to get accommodations. My kid has autism. Nope. My kid has ADD. Nope. My kid has ED. ED, as in emotional disorder. Ever watch Jurassic Park, the dinosaurs are testing the fences to find a weakness. If they can given a treat each time (positive re-inforncement) to try a weakness, they will continue. School becomes a game. Oh, and any kid with a 'learning disorder' (real or not, not saying some aren't real), I have to write another set of assignments for. Then, kids can re-take any assignment, quiz, or Exam for a 70. That is, if you get a 35, because you didn't prepare for the exam on Friday because you got drunk or played CS Black Ops (Counter Strike - a video game for those of you watching at home) - well, no worries, because you can just retake it and get a 70 on the exam. By that time you will know the type of questions on the exam and your teacher (me) now has to write another version of the exam and write an exam key. Their irresponsibility led to my weekend getting an extra work load. When I went to school, there no re-takes. You get 1-2 drops a year. Exams only account for about 30-40% of the class, so it's easy to make up a B with even a 70 exam average. If I have any kid who's below a 70 for any quarter, we had a 15 page report we had to fill out outlining all the learning modifications we tried to make sure they passed. We had to document trying to contact the parents, what learning options were discussed, etc. Guess what most teachers do? Would you like to write 15-20 15 page reports (in addition to your 67 hour work week) beginning on Tuesday through the weekend? For $50K? Each year, teachers become more and more liable legally for a student's success and mental health. We have to report everything, if we don't, we stand a chance of legal stuff. Then you have students who might try to say you cheated them or didn't treat them fairly or they came in for tutoring and you didn't give them enough attention - they actually had to work with the other 12-15 students who come in regularly. They tell their parents, who contacts the principle - and we have a meeting. Another eat in to my evening. Sure, there's bad teachers who don't care anymore. And they'll sit on good classes, I got lucky to be able to teach AP Calculus. Except, I had to write my own curriculum. Some districts will have a good Special Education dept who can help (project management) with a lot of the learning modifications - but you still have to write the exams. Try writing an exam that isn't over a student's head. It's hard. I know Calculus like breathing, I don't see the difficulty level without some sort of feedback. You find all their deficiencies in Algebra, Geometry, spatial understanding, etc - because teachers passed them beforehand. Guess who has extra work (tutoring, assignments, etc) to make sure these learners pass? You can't make plans as a teacher. Your evenings are at the disposal or anyone's inability to take any responsibility for their own learning. There's over 5,000,000 videos, webpages, and learning tutorials online on algebra alone. Over half of my kids had smart phones, so they had access to this stuff all the time. Education should be about learning to solve problems, learning to find a way through the obstacles given to you. Relationships will require this, your future job will require this. The reason secondary education (k-12) is a joke is because everyone passes. We've said everyone deserves an education, but rather we've given them all diplomas and called it an education. We reduce to the lowest common multiplier. There's a reason 'pop' (or popular) music is so mundane - it has to appear to the largest group and thus has the lowest common multiplier. Everyone has to like something about it. Same with health insurance, giving everyone health insurance doesn't mean health care. We have a dichotomy here where we're crossing our i's and dotting our t's. One doesn't mean the other. It can. Obviously, my experience isn't everybody's experience and it shouldn't be taken as such. But, I was a fun teacher, honestly. Imagine a farm kid (mechanical minded, familiar with livestock processes) with a Physics & Chemistry background teaching your Mathematics and Science courses. You get to design a potato gun and you get to launch a potato at your teacher and if it hits him (or within 3 yards) while he's standing 200 yards away, you make $100. Create your own video games. Explode watermelons and use CO2. Make your own vander graaf generator and make people's hair stand up. Then figure out why. Study Reighley Scattering and refraction of light. Mess with optics. I was voted Most Inspirational Teacher in just my 2nd year. But I walked away because I had to give up my life to do so. I liked teaching and was looking forward to coaching baseball as well. But, I hadn't even gotten into coaching and I was already no longer be able to live and thus to inspire. I could no longer think or dream with the kids, because I was writing learning modifications or correcting retakes for 70's on every little assignment. Or meeting with a principal and a parent because their daughter decided instead of trying to do their homework or come to tutorials that they found something online that says students associate 'red' with correction and have lower sense of self esteem when they see red correction marks/ink on their exams as opposed to other colors. (Not peer reviewed) So I'm in this meeting and I know the kid is just trying to not be grounded. So I stand up after a minutes of this discussion of grading in purple or black, walk over to the copier in the room, put the exam in there, hit copy, and bring it back, put the paper in front of the parent and student, "Whatever color I grade in will become associated with it being 'wrong'...here's your paper, it still says a '44', do you feel any better about this exam now that I've put it in black and white?" The Problem with Bonuses or Teacher Performance Not all kids are created equal. Look at the problem with the Twins and the Yankees. It's the have's and the have not's. The problem with bonuses for being a 'good teacher' is you'd get teachers changing grades (already do)...so if you do EOY testing, that's based on the students you have. Already see this, teachers trying to get top kids from the previous year. Ultimately, something along the lines of a kid was 'here' and you took them 'here' - you see those stories. But kids are such a dynamic data point. I had a few kids who did horrible on EOY exams as someone told them they don't matter, they can graduate without them. Which is true, but killed my test scores! The other problem is most of the standardized tests are from curriculum from the year before, not the current year. This is a whole other discussion and my post is probably already too long to endure.

[TABLE=width: 686] Rank Player (yrs age) WAR HOF ?? Years WAR/yr WAR/YR Rank [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 686] 287 Joe Kelley+ (17) 50.5 HOF 17 3.0 251 246 Billy Pierce (18) 53.4 - 18 3.0 252 290 Minnie Minoso (17) 50.2 - 17 3.0 253 292 Wilbur Wood (17) 50.2 - 17 3.0 254 160 Clark Griffith+ (21) 61.9 HOF 21 2.9 255 293 Orlando Cepeda+ (17) 50.1 HOF 17 2.9 256 294 Torii Hunter (17, 37) 50.1 - 17 2.9 257 255 Jack Clark (18) 52.9 - 18 2.9 258 257 Bid McPhee+ (18) 52.7 HOF 18 2.9 259 138 Willie McCovey+ (22) 64.4 HOF 22 2.9 260 122 Don Sutton+ (23) 67.3 HOF 23 2.9 261 141 Dave Winfield+ (22) 64.0 HOF 22 2.9 262 228 Enos Slaughter+ (19) 55.1 HOF 19 2.9 263 233 Jose Cruz (19) 54.3 - 19 2.9 264 236 Bucky Walters (19) 54.2 - 19 2.9 265 237 Willie Keeler+ (19) 54.1 HOF 19 2.8 266 110 Carlton Fisk+ (24) 68.3 HOF 24 2.8 267 241 Jerry Koosman (19) 53.8 - 19 2.8 268 282 Tony Phillips (18) 50.8 - 18 2.8 269 251 Bert Campaneris (19) 53.2 - 19 2.8 270 254 Burleigh Grimes+ (19) 53.0 HOF 19 2.8 271 190 Darrell Evans (21) 58.5 - 21 2.8 272 260 Fred McGriff (19) 52.6 - 19 2.8 273 199 Frank Tanana (21) 57.9 - 21 2.8 274 173 Harmon Killebrew+ (22) 60.4 HOF 22 2.7 275 174 Gary Sheffield (22) 60.4 - 22 2.7 276 265 Babe Adams (19) 52.0 - 19 2.7 277 205 Willie Stargell+ (21) 57.3 HOF 21 2.7 278 271 Luis Gonzalez (19) 51.5 - 19 2.7 279 240 Max Carey+ (20) 53.9 HOF 20 2.7 280 279 Jason Giambi (19, 42) 51.1 - 19 2.7 281 166 Early Wynn+ (23) 61.3 HOF 23 2.7 282 249 Gabby Hartnett+ (20) 53.3 HOF 20 2.7 283 256 Sam Rice+ (20) 52.9 HOF 20 2.6 284 224 Eppa Rixey+ (21) 55.4 HOF 21 2.6 285 150 Dennis Eckersley+ (24) 63.0 HOF 24 2.6 286 272 Brian Downing (20) 51.4 - 20 2.6 287 274 Kenny Rogers (20) 51.4 - 20 2.6 288 245 David Wells (21) 53.6 - 21 2.6 289 196 Jack Quinn (23) 58.1 - 23 2.5 290 268 Waite Hoyt+ (21) 51.8 HOF 21 2.5 291 291 Ted Simmons (21) 50.2 - 21 2.4 292 158 Tommy John (26) 62.0 - 26 2.4 293 238 Tony Perez+ (23) 54.0 HOF 23 2.3 294 269 Jim O'Rourke+ (23) 51.7 HOF 23 2.2 295 273 Jim Kaat (25) 51.4 - 25 2.1 296 288 Jamie Moyer (25) 50.4 - 25 2.0 297 [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 686] Rank Player (yrs age) WAR HOF ?? Years WAR/yr WAR/YR Rank [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 686] 289 Carl Mays (15) 50.2 - 15 3.3 211 125 Dwight Evans (20) 66.7 - 20 3.3 212 252 Dwight Gooden (16) 53.2 - 16 3.3 213 128 Joe Cronin+ (20) 66.4 HOF 20 3.3 214 102 John Smoltz (21) 69.5 - 21 3.3 215 83 Jim Thome (22) 72.8 - 22 3.3 216 64 Pete Rose (24) 79.4 - 24 3.3 217 217 George Uhle (17) 56.0 - 17 3.3 218 218 Bill Dickey+ (17) 55.9 HOF 17 3.3 219 261 Stan Hack (16) 52.5 - 16 3.3 220 223 Joe Medwick+ (17) 55.5 HOF 17 3.3 221 112 Ivan Rodriguez (21) 68.3 - 21 3.3 222 113 Eddie Murray+ (21) 68.2 HOF 21 3.2 223 227 Jeff Kent (17) 55.2 - 17 3.2 224 134 Craig Biggio (20) 64.9 - 20 3.2 225 135 Red Faber+ (20) 64.9 HOF 20 3.2 226 194 Sammy Sosa (18) 58.4 - 18 3.2 227 117 Fred Clarke+ (21) 67.7 HOF 21 3.2 228 96 Red Ruffing+ (22) 70.3 HOF 22 3.2 229 278 Tommy Bridges (16) 51.1 - 16 3.2 230 204 Joe Torre+ (18) 57.4 HOF 18 3.2 231 285 Mark Langston (16) 50.7 - 16 3.2 232 178 Zack Wheat+ (19) 60.0 HOF 19 3.2 233 211 Orel Hershiser (18) 56.8 - 18 3.2 234 244 Harry Hooper+ (17) 53.6 HOF 17 3.2 235 247 Ron Cey (17) 53.3 - 17 3.1 236 215 Johnny Damon (18) 56.3 - 18 3.1 237 183 Yogi Berra+ (19) 59.3 HOF 19 3.1 238 220 Luis Aparicio+ (18) 55.7 HOF 18 3.1 239 259 Cesar Cedeno (17) 52.6 - 17 3.1 240 115 Graig Nettles (22) 68.0 - 22 3.1 241 137 Andre Dawson+ (21) 64.4 HOF 21 3.1 242 263 Norm Cash (17) 52.1 - 17 3.1 243 167 Jake Beckley+ (20) 61.0 HOF 20 3.1 244 70 Bobby Wallace+ (25) 76.2 HOF 25 3.0 245 58 Nolan Ryan+ (27) 81.8 HOF 27 3.0 246 277 Toby Harrah (17) 51.2 - 17 3.0 247 235 Vada Pinson (18) 54.2 - 18 3.0 248 209 Mariano Rivera (19, 43) 57.1 - 19 3.0 249 105 Tim Raines (23) 69.1 - 23 3.0 250 [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 686] Rank Player (yrs age) WAR HOF ?? Years WAR/yr WAR/YR Rank [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 686] 232 Billy Herman+ (15) 54.5 HOF 15 3.6 171 163 Jack Glasscock (17) 61.4 - 17 3.6 172 165 Todd Helton (17, 39) 61.3 - 17 3.6 173 73 Paul Molitor+ (21) 75.5 HOF 21 3.6 174 109 Kevin Brown (19) 68.3 - 19 3.6 175 87 Rafael Palmeiro (20) 71.8 - 20 3.6 176 203 Whitey Ford+ (16) 57.4 HOF 16 3.6 177 74 Bill Dahlen (21) 75.3 - 21 3.6 178 243 Wilbur Cooper (15) 53.7 - 15 3.6 179 206 Dave Stieb (16) 57.2 - 16 3.6 180 296 Tony Lazzeri+ (14) 50.0 HOF 14 3.6 181 118 Ernie Banks+ (19) 67.6 HOF 19 3.6 182 250 Joe Tinker+ (15) 53.3 HOF 15 3.6 183 172 Bobby Abreu (17) 60.4 - 17 3.6 184 212 Jack Powell (16) 56.8 - 16 3.6 185 175 Jim Edmonds (17) 60.3 - 17 3.5 186 142 Billy Williams+ (18) 63.8 HOF 18 3.5 187 177 Keith Hernandez (17) 60.1 - 17 3.5 188 143 Bob Feller+ (18) 63.6 HOF 18 3.5 189 79 Reggie Jackson+ (21) 74.0 HOF 21 3.5 190 95 Alan Trammell (20) 70.4 - 20 3.5 191 258 Al Orth (15) 52.7 - 15 3.5 192 126 Luis Tiant (19) 66.7 - 19 3.5 193 182 Jim Bunning+ (17) 59.5 HOF 17 3.5 194 219 Robin Ventura (16) 55.9 - 16 3.5 195 39 Cap Anson+ (27) 93.8 HOF 27 3.5 196 226 Chet Lemon (16) 55.3 - 16 3.5 197 267 Lance Berkman (15, 37) 51.8 - 15 3.5 198 107 Tony Gwynn+ (20) 68.9 HOF 20 3.4 199 193 Chuck Finley (17) 58.4 - 17 3.4 200 230 Kevin Appier (16) 54.9 - 16 3.4 201 108 Al Simmons+ (20) 68.6 HOF 20 3.4 202 198 John Olerud (17) 58.0 - 17 3.4 203 65 Brooks Robinson+ (23) 78.4 HOF 23 3.4 204 89 Ted Lyons+ (21) 71.5 HOF 21 3.4 205 281 Brian Giles (15) 50.8 - 15 3.4 206 284 Bob Elliott (15) 50.7 - 15 3.4 207 169 Andy Pettitte (18, 41) 60.8 - 18 3.4 208 286 Dizzy Trout (15) 50.6 - 15 3.4 209 170 Willie Davis (18) 60.7 - 18 3.4 210 [/TABLE]

[TABLE=width: 686] Rank Player (yrs age) WAR HOF ?? Years WAR/yr WAR/YR Rank [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 686] 161 Sal Bando (16) 61.6 - 16 3.9 131 239 Mark Buehrle (14, 34) 53.9 - 14 3.9 132 297 Eddie Rommel (13) 50.0 - 13 3.8 133 242 Joe Sewell+ (14) 53.8 HOF 14 3.8 134 248 Jimmy Collins+ (14) 53.3 HOF 14 3.8 135 56 Ken Griffey (22) 83.6 - 22 3.8 136 210 Tim Hudson (15, 37) 57.0 - 15 3.8 137 111 Edgar Martinez (18) 68.3 - 18 3.8 138 139 Reggie Smith (17) 64.4 - 17 3.8 139 213 George Sisler+ (15) 56.7 HOF 15 3.8 140 140 Monte Ward+ (17) 64.1 HOF 17 3.8 141 88 Derek Jeter (19, 39) 71.6 - 19 3.8 142 44 Steve Carlton+ (24) 90.4 HOF 24 3.8 143 216 Will Clark (15) 56.2 - 15 3.7 144 179 Jesse Burkett+ (16) 59.9 HOF 16 3.7 145 180 Vladimir Guerrero (16) 59.9 - 16 3.7 146 181 Dazzy Vance+ (16) 59.9 HOF 16 3.7 147 262 Larry Jackson (14) 52.2 - 14 3.7 148 78 Luke Appling+ (20) 74.5 HOF 20 3.7 149 222 Jim Wynn (15) 55.7 - 15 3.7 150 151 Hal Newhouser+ (17) 63.0 HOF 17 3.7 151 94 Frankie Frisch+ (19) 70.4 HOF 19 3.7 152 59 Tom Glavine (22) 81.4 - 22 3.7 153 184 Mike Piazza (16) 59.2 - 16 3.7 154 185 Bret Saberhagen (16) 59.2 - 16 3.7 155 97 Barry Larkin+ (19) 70.2 HOF 19 3.7 156 127 Duke Snider+ (18) 66.5 HOF 18 3.7 157 187 Sherry Magee (16) 59.1 - 16 3.7 158 153 Andruw Jones (17) 62.7 - 17 3.7 159 98 Rick Reuschel (19) 70.0 - 19 3.7 160 155 David Cone (17) 62.5 - 17 3.7 161 100 Gary Carter+ (19) 69.8 HOF 19 3.7 162 130 Goose Goslin+ (18) 66.1 HOF 18 3.7 163 229 Bobby Mathews (15) 55.0 - 15 3.7 164 276 Bobby Doerr+ (14) 51.3 HOF 14 3.7 165 131 Buddy Bell (18) 65.9 - 18 3.7 166 103 Jim Palmer+ (19) 69.4 HOF 19 3.7 167 132 Willie Randolph (18) 65.6 - 18 3.6 168 84 Paul Waner+ (20) 72.8 HOF 20 3.6 169 106 Manny Ramirez (19, 41) 69.1 - 19 3.6 170 [/TABLE]