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I would think he goes to the highest bidder. This is probably his one chance to cash-in. He is a catcher entering his age 30 season and his career earnings are a touch over $12M. Pay him a premium. Cover it by cutting Plouffe if you can't trade him. Platoon him with Murphy until Garver or Turner are ready. Of course, there is always a chance a preferred team just matches the bid until it gets to a point where its stupid to go any higher.
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Article: Derek Falvey, Thad Levine Era Begins
Major League Ready replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The decision to keep Molitor has been made. Why would anyone expect Falvey and Levine to say anything except we are happy to have a great baseball man like Paul Monitor as our manager? They spoke of the importance of working together. One does not promote that cooperation by criticizing a member of the leadership team publicly.- 68 replies
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Article: Derek Falvey, Thad Levine Era Begins
Major League Ready replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If you watched the press conference, they seemed to emphasize the need to better develop the talent they already have. Falvey also seems big on strength and conditioning training starting at the minor league level. Maybe you get that extra tick or two in velocity from pitchers and guys get hurt less. It really chaps my a$$ when professional athletes show-up out of shape. The veteran comment does not concern me. There a certainly ways veterans can be part of the roster. We could add a veteran catcher, corner outfielder or Pitcher and improve the team substantially without taking away from the development of our young core and additional prospects who will be here soon.- 68 replies
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Article: Derek Falvey, Thad Levine Era Begins
Major League Ready replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I must have misunderstood the previous post. This seems reasonable.- 68 replies
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Article: Derek Falvey, Thad Levine Era Begins
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By that logic, we should say that Kirillloff is in place. I dont see any relevance in how long players were in our minor league system. Sano has 830 ABs and Buxton has 469. There are question marks surrounding both of them. Please elaborate on how this is the basis for grab some pitchers and go. We need at least two front of the rotation SPs. There are non in free agency. How specifically are you going to acquire these SPs "and run."- 68 replies
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Mauer is an interesting example. You may recall I have said it might be time to let him go if he did not bounce back last year. However, I don’t think his cost is sunk. I say I don’t think it’s sunk because I would guess someone would give him a 2 year contract if he were a free agent. He was only a 1 war player last year. Would anyone care to guess what Mauer would get? Could he get 2/13? This discussion started with players I think it much harder to determine if they will ever have value. Mauer seems to simply be in decline. Hughes was quite good before his velocity feel off. I don’t like his odds but there is still substantial potential if he comes back from this surgery. The scenario is about the same as Perkins. IMO, the definition of sunk is very different for a fan and the people responsible for P&L or the person who’s money is being spent., Many fans have great difficulty accepting MLB is a business. At least their comments often suggest the put very little value in someone else’s 10s of millions. BTW … If Mauer would bring 2/13, $13 million is not sunk. While we might like for ownership to flush that $13M in value, its not quite so easy to just give up on a player when it’s your $13M or if you are the guy responsible for P&L it’s not so easy either. This is one of those things that are much easier to understand or appreciate if you have been in that position.
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You don't understand the definition of a sunk cost and neither do a number of people here who keep using it incorrectly. If there is still hope of a return it's not a sunk cost.
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There is a very large gap in how fans see this as compared to people that have or have had P&L responsiblity for organizations that generate 9 figures in revenue. The "its not my money" perspective is incredibly naive.
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The wording I used could easily be misconstrued. “Need a spot to give them a shot” is not at all the same as giving them a spot. People endorse low risk high leverage acquisitions her all the time. There is absolutely no risk with either player. We already owe them the money. Both have been very good performers at times, especially Perkins.
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This riddle does not seem that tough. Non-tender Plouffe. Give Sano this entire season to assess if he can play 3B. The tough question is what are you willing to except for Dozier if an ideal scenario does not present itself? The hope here is for ML ready SP. Anyone trading for Dozier with 2 years of control is not going to trade ML ready starting pitching. At least not one with the kind of ceiling we want in return. The bullpen is a quite the riddle as well. You cant rely on Perkins at all. Then, there is Hughes. You have to have a spot to give these guys a shot at coming back, right?
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When I think of athleticism for a baseball player, I include arm and raw power to the other things we would think of in terms of athleticism. Sano has incredible raw power and one of the best arms of any position player in MLB. What if he were in "Winfield" like shape?
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I don't think that's a fair assessment. People with far greater credentials than most of us believe that it is a good practice as evidenced by the frequency it is done. In other words, it should be done. Your premise suggests that the people critiquing this practice on the internet understand what should or should not be done better than the people making these decisions. That is highly unlikely, IMO.
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No problem. The only point was that many summarily dismissed Sano and this experiment because he was 270 lbs. I used Schwaber as an example for a couple reasons. One, Maddon is highly regarded. Two, Schwaber, while not completely untested, was far from proven. Point being , Sano is faster even at 270 than Schwaber so why was the Schwaber experiment OK and the Sano experiment not worthy of the experiment. As I said from the beginning, I thought they should have just put him at 3B and rode it out but I was ok with the experiment in a season that never had a chance from day 1. The thing that really floors me is that so many people said he could not play there because he weighed 270 lbs. as if there was no correcting the problem. He is 270 because you can get away with being out of shape in baseball. I will be thrilled if he shows up in great shape not just for the obvious reasons but it would also suggest a higher level of commitment. Koske went from being a bad 3B defensively to quite good with determination and commitment. Would love to see that from Sano. BTW ... I agree with Mike. The execution still sucked. That's where the criticism belongs IMO but Sano's size, given his athleticism should not have been an issue. It appeared the experiment was condemned because guys his size are generally far to slow to play the position. While this is true, it's pretty backward logic when he had already demonstrated significantly better speed than others who have played the position.
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I am not sure what point you are trying to make here. My point is that both players were unproven in the OF. Their bats warranted a shot. If Sano is more athletic than Schwaber, especially if Sano lost 30 lbs, why should Sano to the OF be dismissed because he is bigger? I think Jimmer hit the nail on the head. Their execution sucked but his size was not the problem.
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So, are you saying that Sano was no athletic enough to play the position. Nobody though tit was insane to suggest Plouffe or Mauer in the outfield. Sano at 270 is far more athletic than Plouffe and quite a bit faster than Mauer. He certainly is faster and more athletic than alot of guys that played the position because of their bat. Point is that size is not nearly as relevant a question as does he have the athleticism to play OF. He failed because he could not make the adaption. Size was not the primary problem. Also, to focus on the fact that he was 270lbs has to be the worst assessment of the core problem I have ever seen on this site. How much problem solving skill does it take to recognize he is 30 lbs over weight. I think a better assessment of the problem was that he should lose 30 lbs, not that he cant play the position because he weighs 270.
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Maddon puts people in new positions on a regular basis. The article suggests Cleveland was smart to move Santana not once but twice. However, the Twins are incompetent fools when they use out fo the box thinking. Which player is more athletic, Sano or Schwarber? I would say Sano so difference does it make if Sano is bigger. Let's also remember the Twins and Sano had agreed that Sano would shed some weight. Some of you seem to forget that Sano's size is something that could have been relatively easily adjusted to better fix the position. There are a bunch of NFL players who would be much more athletic than alot of MLB corner outfielders so I just dont get how Sano's size should have disqualified him as a candidate to play a corner OF position. What's even more weird is the number of people who think Mauer or Plouffe who are both much slower than Sano should play OF. Somehow really slow is ok if you are not really big.
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Article: Following The Cubs' Blueprint
Major League Ready replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yes, The Cubs have done several things well that the Twins could and should emulate. However, to discount the impact of their revenue because some of the FAs are not contributing fails to recognize that these failures are normal. In other words, it should be expected that some free agents will perform and others will not, This strategy requires deep enough pockets to absorb the failures. The Cubs are spending just shy of $115M this year on free agents. The Indians and the Twins could not possibly follow this model so to say there is not a a material difference is conceptually flawed. The Twins and Indians only hope of competing is to excel at drafting, development, and asset management. The core of their problem was they did not embrace and invest in the practices crucial to excelling in these areas. -
Article: Big Splash? More Like Big Slash
Major League Ready replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Pretty spot on. Getting to the world series is a poor measure of the impact of revenue. There are many variables and its a small sample size. Regular season records offer a much better statistical measure of the impact of revenue. The Yankees won 1592 games since 2000. Yes, the Royals won a WS. They also won 359 games less since 2000. The bottom 12 teams with the exception of Oakland have averaged 16 less wins/year. (94 vs 78). I think the correlation to revenue is very clear. BTW ... Market is often used as a proxy from revenue but market size does not necessarily reflect revenue (ie.St. Louis) -
Article: Out With The Old
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Article: Out With The Old
Major League Ready replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The point was I thought the reason he is here had nothing to do with the point you were making.. He has modest offensive numbers in 127 games at AA. Why would you think he is a guy to jump right from AA. It makes absolutely no sense and you were complaining about "if the reason" when it should be very clear that is not the reason. -
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Major League Ready replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
126 games at AA with a .729 OPS and 347 OBP AA hardly screams that the guy should be here right now. Plus, he is not a good replacement for Grossman given he is a LHH. Grossman may suck defensively but that bat should be in the linepup vs LHP. He is really a better replacement for Rosario. IMO Rosario has a higher ceiling than Granite. If Rosario can develop his approach, he could be a very good MLB player. Personally, I am not too optimistic but why would you take ABs away from Rosario next year for a guy who is not ready to play at the ML level? At a minimum, give Rosario / Grossman the 1st half of the season with Granite, Palka and Walker at AAA. Hope that you end up with several OFers that can play at the ML level and trade from that position of strength. -
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Well Chief, you do have a point. In the first paragraph I was simply trying to point out this premise is unreasonable in that it assumes we can just outbid every other team for premier agents and that they all want to come here. The 2nd and 3rd paragraphs do not take the extreme example of the first paragraph literally. Free agency is a tool this team should use. They just need to be very smart and timing is part of the equation. The answer is there is no way the twins could afford 3 premier free agents. However, I do think they could afford a front of the rotation starter plus whatever other hole needs the most attention. They can do this and still extend a couple of their key young players if they are patient and let this core come together. That includes all of the SP prospects (Berrios / Gonsalves / Jay / Romeo / Stewart / Meija and perhaps their pick nexct June. Of course, the reason for this is that would have a large portion of their 25 man roster in their cost controlled years. I say this recognizing that there are only two instances of teams this century with equal or less revenue than the Twins that have landed this type of SP. The Rookies in 2002 (Hampton) and Grienke last year. I am not sure we can count Grient given Arizona had just received a billion dollar TV deal. Plus, while some here advocated for going after Grienke, most posters here would agree that contract was a very bad idea for Arizona. I would also concede the over pay is indicative of the difficulty of landing these players for a team that is not in a major market. -
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Major League Ready replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If you are talking about the NY, LA or Bos, this is a good point. It's ridiculous if you are talking about the twins. You are suggesting that a team at a revenue disadvantage of $150-250M/yr as compared to those teams should be able to outbid them for the best free agents three years in a row. There are 30 teams but we should get the best FAs. You and others also advocate just do it now. You have asked me several times how long should we wait as if after a certain number of years this must be done. It should be done when the core has matured and the final pieces are needed. How many years we have sucked is not relevant to when a team should pursue a premier FA. Did the Mets, Royals or Pirates go out and spend on FAs during their extended period of losing? The reality of the strategy you advocate is that those players are very likely good for about half of the contract. This team would be better for sure but certainly not a contender. Then, when our young core grows up, we have $80-90M/yr in players well below their prime that could have been invested in productive players. In other words, you have opted to add these FAs when we suck instead of when we have the team around them to contend. -
Article: Arizona's Cautionary Tale
Major League Ready replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I would agree there were no advocates here of exactly what Arizona did last year. However, on a more conceptual level, many people here wanted a win now approach. There was support for trading Buxton, Kepler, and Berrios for players with 2-3 years remaining. Shelby Miller was not seen as an ace here but he was seen as a very good pitcher and rightfully so. Many people would have done back-flips for Grienke. I recall a few people complaining because they knew the FO would not consider Grienke or Price. I would not go so far as to say they should never consider a free agent top of the rotation guy but last year was certainly not the time and I said the exact same thing then. Grienke and Price are under contract for 5 and 6 years respectively for $30M+ and they are already showing regression, especially Grienke. What a disaster it would have been to bring them in. Lucroy received a lot of support. He would have been here through next year and there were those who supported Kepler + others for LuCroy. That would have been a disaster! Several people had a fit because they would not sign RPs to as long-term deal. I recall very specifically, that this move and these players was not consistent with a contender. No kidding, there was no way we were contending and nearly every national media source predicted a last source place finish. Yet, there were many here who were furious because they were not making moves that were consistent with a win now or all in mentality. So, while Nick’s article may not have been exactly what anyone here had in mind, the win now and spend big on FAs was definitely promoted here.

