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You're right. I'm still in the wish category that some of these decisions could have been saved for when the new ownership was fully in charge.

I hope that this dumpster fire of a sale didn't scare off negotiations on a sale of the team. If you include lost revenues and goodwill, the Pohlads may have cost themselves $50-200M in value. All that to save no more than $20M in payroll. Now if they can manage to get Correa back to the Astros somehow, that would actually save some real coin and give an upcoming ownership group some flexibility.

Listening to MLB.com and one of the pundits made the comment that prospects get GM's fired. Apparently, they forgot that the Twins exist.

Sounds like the mystery box that Falvey keeps getting back for his deadline trade deals.

Tell them we are sending TC Bear to Philadelphia as a Bader Tots buddy.

I've said this for some time now. Part of the Rocco's greatness was in his first year with a veteran lineup (Bomba Squad) and having Nelson Cruz as a player-manager. I think Correa wants to be that player-manager type, but availability is still important not only to on-field performance, but how other players respect you as a teammate. Rocco just really had to manage a few day-to-day activities and some egos. That seems to be what he does best. He certainly doesn't do well in managing an unproven team that still needs instruction at the major-league level.

BREAKING NEWS: TC Bear has been traded to Philadelphia for a 500-gallon gas tank full of fuel. Sources say the Bear has been the source of too many clubhouse leaks, a troublemaker, and needs to be run out of town to a fan base that will truly give TC what he is worth: the Phillies. EDIT: As part of the trade, the Twins have promised to run twenty (20) more MLB Green commercials per game.

I'm the crazy person that read most of the comments on this thread. 🤪 With that being said, I have a few points to make that I haven't seen as of yet or haven't been fully fleshed out. 1. The Phillies: I'm not sure how many teams were still involved in the Duran sweepstakes. It sounds like the Mets walked away and went to go sign Helsley. Falvey seemed paranoid on trading Duran to another AL team. If that is true, then Falvey had already cut his potential suitors by half and may have got the best deal that he thought he could get with the parameters he set for himself. 2. The money: Agree with the previous commenter that the Paddack trade seemed like a smart trade, expiring contract that will save some money. This one seems like a potential salary dump. Let's assume that Duran would have commanded $8-$10M next year. I personally believe they could have received a similar package in the offseason and still dumped said potential payroll. 3. Perception: Idk if this was a Falvey or Pohlad thing, but it seems one of them got sucked up in the national media attention that a Duran trade had to happen. Almost like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe they got into the mindset that there was this huge market for Duran, got into it and realized that it wasn't as hot as was advertised, then couldn't get out as they were fielding too many calls. This is where Falvey needed to be firm and be willing to walk away ala Mason Miller of the A's. 4. The Team Sale: I don't know where the negotiations are at with the sale of the team, but this trade could give some clues about this as well. This may be a sign they are very close as Falvey is trading everyone that has a contract of any value to save the Pohlads money on the way out. If that is the case, the Pohlads could do one last kindness to the Twins and fire Baldelli. They basically have created a rebuilding team and Baldelli can't manage a quasi-pretender much less a clear, rebuilding team. This is the decision I wished that a new ownership would have been to make much less try to negotiate through the pieces that are left from the current one.

I'm starting to believe that the Twins misunderstood their mission for Earth Day in the MLB Green commercial. They were supposed to look for ways to reduce waste and recycle more. What they actually did was create a compost on the field.

I believe Clemens (Kody) actually came up to the majors as a pitcher so I was hoping for a little more heat than 50 mph meatballs.

I think I would be upset as well if I was supposed to be this elite arm and now being replaced by a position player especially since the position player inherits two runners.

The A's are still worse. They are currently playing in a bad AAA stadium, and the only reason payroll is up because they didn't want to go to court with the MLBPA. They would have sold off players like Bader and Castro for a Klondike bar just to save a little payroll.

While I largely agree with this, something has to be said about Falvey's fingerprints in this situation. I still find it hard to believe that he would be given the go-ahead to sign the Correa contract without knowing that the Pohlads wanted to cut down on payroll after the 2023 season. Absolutely the Pohlads are to blame for coming right out and putting a glacier full of water on the 2023 season by saying that they were going to "right-size" the payroll. But I would expect these payroll meetings occur multiple times a year and are usually planned out in vague figures multiple years in advance. I'm obviously not there so I don't know and maybe that says a lot more about how the Pohlads run a business.

I'm ultimately ok with the lumps and the kids coming up as long as there shows some level of improvement between now and the end of the year.

I think the key word missing is ATH-letes.

Oh good. The run expectancy graphic came up. It's almost like a kiss of death. That, and bases loaded has a better kill ratio than Medusa does turning people into stone.

When I first checked the trade boards, I saw a crazy rumor that the Astros were interested in Correa. I about ruined what was left of my back to jump up and down in celebration and then read the next sentence: "They are far away in negotiations." DON'T SCREW THIS UP FALVEY!!!! Let us out of the mousetrap!

I wouldn't even say that. For reference, the Rockies have been above .500 since the ASB (6-5) as exhibit A. We created a monster out there in Colorado.

Especially when it was Rocco who recruited him to sign with Minnesota.

I didn't watch the replay as much as a few of you so I can stand to be corrected. It looked like Clemens looked at the fielders while rounding second base and was expecting the decision for the stop sign. I'm sure he was just as surprised as us when Watkins sent him to the plate. If a blame game has to be assigned, I'm guessing it's Clemens because he should only be looking at Watkins and not looking himself and then wouldn't have slowed down between second and third?

And we always wonder why our pitchers can't get through five innings. When they have to get 4 outs every inning, that takes a toll on the pitcher. This is the second straight inning that the Twins need 4 outs to get out of the inning.

Only in Spooky Hollow. Not currently in Minnesota.

Apparently not per Jeff Passan. Or else no one has been able to get confirmation yet. MLB: Was Jhoan Duran Traded? Twins' Pitcher Spotted Bidding Farewell to Teammates

Welcome back to Minnesota, Jorge Alcala!

Almost like they are the same player. But one is from Minnesota and one was a trusty veteran. Almost don't know who to choose? 😑