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  1. Both Beede and Rodon were shelled tonight and clearly had control problems. Nola didn't have his usual control but still picked up a W and Finnegan continued to mow 'em down: [TABLE] [TD=width: 204, bgcolor: #00008B] [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]ip [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]h [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]r [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]er [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]bb [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]so [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]wp [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]bk [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]hbp [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]ibb [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]ab [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]bf [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]fo [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]go [/TD] [TD=width: 40, bgcolor: #00008B]np [/TD] Carlos Rodon L,2-4 4.2 6 8 0 4 8 2 0 2 0 22 28 2 3 116 Tyler Beede L,4-2 2.2 6 11 5 5 2 1 0 1 0 16 23 1 4 82 Aaron Nola W,5-0 6.2 2 0 0 4 8 0 0 1 0 20 25 8 2 117 Brandon Finnegan W,4-2 7 3 0 0 2 10 0 0 0 0 24 26 8 3 105 [/TABLE]
  2. How does Law view Gettys' stock? If we feel his bat will project well he could be another option. This draft seems loaded in pitching but we don't hear much about the bats with the exception of a couple near the top.
  3. If Hoffman falls and is available at 5 it will be more a result of a poor spring combined with overall rocky collegiate record and less due to the performance of others. If this is the case I'd feel much more comfortable taking a player on the rise. Here is hoping Hoffman improves his consistency the rest of the way and proves his spurts of excellence can be maintained.
  4. Kiley McDaniel at Scout.com posted a thorough analysis of top prep prospects, highlighted with more positive words for Brady Aiken. Here is a snippet: "The early word coming out of Aiken's couple short outings since that scrimmage is that he is indeed sitting a little lower, mostly 90-95 but hitting 97 mph again. His above average curveball that varied all summer with his arm speed is now plus while his changeup is still above average and he's expected to show the same above average command as the spring continues. That full package of everything above average with athleticism, a 6'3/210 frame and two plus pitches from the left side is a 2/3 starter; advanced versions of that at age 17 (Aiken will be 17.81 on draft day) never get out of the top 10." As of right now it appears Aiken is moving quickly up the prospect rankings and the Twins will surely give him strong consideration come draft day considering they have spent a good deal of time scouting him the past couple years. A subscription is required to read the article but it may be worth it as Kiley is well connected within the scouting community and will be posting many more articles as the draft nears. http://sbb.scout.com/2/1385841.html
  5. It would be short-sighted to disregard any prospect this early and given the depth of this draft it is reasonable to expect movement in the top 10 from any of the names people have posted in this thread. A general theme of Rodon, Hoffman, Kolek and now Beede as the most likely (early) top four is emerging. At #5 there are a number of names still being thrown around among draft pundits, including Jackson, Gatewood and Turner. Given what is currently known of each of them I have trouble declaring them as higher upside or less to prove than each of the pitchers I mentioned as potential risers. I hope each of these hitters rips the seems off the ball this spring and a more decisive picture of the best player available at #5 materializes. Until then I'll stick to considering all of the top prospects and narrow my scope when more concrete evidence emerges that one should be given significantly greater attention than another.
  6. I agree with you kab21...Turner, Jackson and Gatewood each have a lot to prove this spring to get my vote at #5. If the top 4 goes Rodon/Hoffman/Kolek/Beede in some order it would make sense for preseason second tier arms like Nola, Weaver, Aiken, Toussaint or Holmes to continue the run on arms early. Of that group Nola would make me most happy.
  7. Even though commenting on this thread welcomes considerable (and justified) scrutiny in all future posts I'll join in to offer my two cents. While it is agreeable that well-written posts/replies and blogs indicate greater effort in re-reading and editing oneself, let's not be haste to judge others as the vernacular of a poster who coveys emotion over writing ability has its own merit to be appreciated. For a humble Midwestern franchise like the Twins whose star player, head coach and GM speak solely in cliche I think Twinsdaily readers are doing just fine.
  8. I have to believe Aaron Nola will be given strong consideration at #5, especially if the first 4 picks are Rodon/Beede/Hoffman/Kolek. He was a (more successful) teammate to Ryan Eades last year so its safe to say we have an extensive history scouting him and Nola is widely regarded to have excellent command of a strong 3 pitch FB/slide/change up mix. He may not have the highest ceiling at 5 but he may be the best bet to reach his ceiling of the remaining starters. He could be viewed as someone who would move through the system quickly a la Wacha/Gausman/Gray/Stephenson and be ready to help in just a couple years. Nola would be especially valuable if we think he could be signed below slot value.
  9. Tyler Beede dominated again today and now has and ERA of .82, 14.73 K/9, 9 K/BB and a .45 WHIP in his two starts (both wins). Stat lovers are salivating everywhere. Its just two games but he has been the top college arm thus far, Rodon included. The knock on him going in to this year was his control and if he continues to show it is improved come draft time he will surpass Hoffman and may make a run at Rodon for top pick. He already has a plus FB and curve and scouts say his change up flashes plus. If he can continue to hone the change and maintain his new found control we are talking about a true #1 starter/ace.
  10. This is a top 5 pick in a perceived strong draft so throwing out Wimmers (#21) and Michaels (#30) as comps is not an accurate analogy. Looking at the 2014 draft eligible players today, I consider Trea Turner, Tyler Beede, Luke Weaver and Alex Jackson players with a higher floor than Gatewood. Based on what I know today it is easier to see them reach the bigs and have an impact than Gatewood, although one could argue Gatewood has a higher ceiling than any one of these four.
  11. It is easy to agree Jacob Gatewood has extremely high upside and the fact is the baseball draft is about projecting a player's future. His combination of size, arm, fielding and bat speed is rare. If his in game results that more closely mirror the shows he puts on in BP there would be little discussion about him being a top 5 pick. The fact is his junior HS school left more questions than answers as he didn't even earn first team all conference honors in a 6 team conference. It would be nice to see a player of his stature dominate inferior competition. Of course this can all be erased with his senior year. If his hit tool improves his stock will sky rocket but if he shows little progress with contact and pitch selection I would rather see us select someone with a higher floor but ultimately lower ceiling. We simply can't afford to miss on a top 5 pick.
  12. While there are many intriguing names heading in to spring ball Trea Turner is my early favorite for the Twins pick. With a plus hit tool and plus plus speed the thought of him hitting at the top of the order with Sano and Buxton makes me positively giddy. Most reports I have read indicate he will be able to stay at SS long term, further maximizing his value. If he stays healthy and continues to develop his power he could be really special.
  13. I was starstruck when I ran in to Knobby at the old Moore Lake Norwest Racket, Swim and Fitness when I was 10. I was leaving the locker room when I saw Chuck walking in arriving for a workout. I stopped him to wish him luck in the upcoming season and told him how much of a fan of his I was and then I asked for his autograph. Except I had nothing for him to write with or write on. I asked him to wait right there while I ran and got a pen and piece of paper from the coat closet attendant. I ran back and found Chuck in the same spot waiting for me to return. I remember him being very kind and patient. He signed the paper and went on his way but in the process completely made my day and week. I couldn't believe I just got Knobby's autograph! In later years I was disappointed when he asked to be traded and felt even worse when he seemed to falter under the pressure of Yankee stadium and lost the ability to throw from 2nd to 1st. These things don't overshadow his 7 years of outstanding play for the Twins. This is an award Knobby deserves.
  14. Hearing Pelfrey say Meyer has the best "stuff" on the staff is very encouraging. Also like to see him comment about Buxton and Sano. Maybe these young guns will provide the spark needed to get our veterans competing at their highest level. If that is the case we could turn some heads this year!
  15. Drew would be a significant upgrade at SS. Florimon's bat provided negative value last year and defensively the two are a wash. I think Drew's anemic post season hitting sounded alarms for some teams. If we can sign him at $9-12 mil/year for 3 years we should pull the trigger. If we sign Garza then I suspect we will look to trade a SP by the deadline next year.
  16. I agree he had a somewhat rough adjustment his first couple weeks last year but then he started taking better routes to balls and his D improved significantly. Hicks also showed off a cannon for an arm, which could be better than advertised. If Hicks can hit .250 with the plate discipline he displayed in the minors, combined with a little pop and some solid baserunning and SB totals he would be a perennial starting OF for us. The jury is still out if he can do that, however.
  17. It is wishful thinking for Bobby Cuellar to teach all minor leaguers to throw a change up. Santana's success and work ethic rubbed off on others when he was here, I imagine those same attributes could help him be a successful coach for our young pitchers.
  18. If we sign Santana I'd like there to be some kind of handshake agreement that if the comeback attempt is derailed or not possible that he comes aboard as a minor league pitching instructor to teach our young guys how to throw a proper change up.
  19. Tanaka will be showered with attention the next 30 days from teams that pony up his posting fee. This gives the Twins a perfect opportunity to swoop in and woo Garza/Santana/Jimenez or pickup Arroyo on the cheap.
  20. Thank you for sharing this list. A few things strike me when viewing it. One, Mike Mussina had an excellent career when compared with pitchers in his generation. Certainly HOF caliber. And Brad Radke had a heck of a career! Yes, a handful of the pitchers listed just below him are still pitching and will surely pass him but 45 career WAR is pretty outstanding. Too bad so many of those Twins teams weren't able to showcase his ability more.
  21. Well done, Thrylos. You make a good case for this being a smart contract for the Twins. It doesn't feel right saying it (at least not this close to our disastrous 2013 year) but these free agent signings have me feeling cautiously optimistic for 2014. If - BIG if - everything falls in to place we should have our best SP depth since the 2004 season. That won't make up for an anemic offense but it is realistic to expect an improvement of 5-10 wins next year.
  22. Aaron Slegers is my breakout candidate. We picked him in the 5th round last year after he missed nearly his entire Freshman and Sophomore years before pitching a full season in 2013 at Indiana. If the forearm ailment that caused him to miss time as a prep and in college stays in the past then there is a lot to like about his future prospects. His arm has low miles and at 6'10" he has a distinct advantage vs hitters. Slegers has limited pitching experience so it will serve him well to start at Elizabethton where the short season will allow more time to work with coaches in extended minor league camp this spring. Look for the Twins to get him a spot in the rotation after he made 9 relief appearances at Elizabethton last summer.
  23. After seeing the size of the deal Peralta signed and Drew is eyeing I have to think the value of Escobar and Florimon is pretty high, relatively speaking. Both rate well defensively, are under team control for 4-5 years and stand good chances to improve as hitters. We signed Bartlett and Santana will be in AAA to start the year so there is enough depth to move one of them. If we could upgrade our big league OF depth or pickup a solid prospect in return we should do it.
  24. Matt Garza Open To Returning To Twins By Steve Adams [November 15 at 2:14pm CST] Matt Garza is open to a return to the Twins, Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN reports. Wolfson offers more on Garza, via Twitter, stating that he hears the Twins are more interested in Garza than Ricky Nolasco, despite earlier reports that the Twins are making a "strong push" for Nolasco. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/matt-garza-open-to-returning-to-twins.html Imagine that! First TR signs Bartlett back and then goes and gets Garza...
  25. Yes, this type of thought process is extremely frustrating. The Twins need to add SP depth with free agents and hope an ace or two rises from the system. We will never sign an ace (fine by me, it never works out well) but we can sign quality mid rotation arms. That is what Nolasco and Arroyo are. If 2 of our top pitching prospects develop into 1st or 2nd starters then all of the sudden our pitching could be a strength.
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