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  1. Oxtung
    He's lost about a mile per hour on each of his pitches this year, although his FB is still averaging 94mph. That would make me nervous as a buyer so as always it comes down to what the asking price is. Would you do Fien or Burton for Storen?
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    I think there are some interesting prospects in the Yankees system that might match up well with the Twins but I don't think the Twins have much the bombers need. Perhaps Plouffe, although he has been in a big slump recently so that isn't helping his value. Manny Banuelos could be a high risk/high reward candidate if the Yankees are concerned about his future. A 22 year old lefty with 3 above average pitches, including his FB, that underwent TJ surgery in 2012 after pitching 6 games at AAA (sound like anyone we know?). He was a top 100 prospect before the injury. Potentially could be a buy low candidate. Jose Ramirez is another interesting pitcher. 23 and at AA/AAA this year he has a plus fastball that sits at 95 and probably an above average hard slider. He has some problems with control, but what hard thrower doesn't in the minors? If he doesn't pan out as a starter he could be a very interesting back of the bullpen guy with his fastball and slider combo. However, like I said we don't match up well with their needs so I doubt anything happens here.
  3. Oxtung
    90 of Strop's appearances came in games that were either tied or within 1 run. 74 of his appearances were in high leverage situations with another 59 in medium leverage. Only 36 of his appearances were in blowouts. This is going in circles and is beside the point. The fact is the Cubs leveraged free agency into three assets that could help them become more competitive in future seasons. The Twins added nothing that will help make that push. That is disappointing to me.
  4. Oxtung
    I stand corrected. I thought I remembered him making one or two of the mid-season lists but he didn't. Regardless, my viewpoint hasn't changed, Perkins will never bring back more than he will right now and since I don't think the Twins will be competitive in the next few years I think he should be moved for the best offer available.
  5. Oxtung
    Strop has pitched 137 innings in his career. 109 of those have been in the 8th or 9th where he has an ERA of 2.95. Hardly the toss away you think he is. Arrieta is a 27 year old that was twice a top 100 prospect. While he hasn't performed well to date in the majors he clearly has talent. Perhaps these guys help in the future perhaps they don't, but a chance at helping the Cubs was created by Epstein's approach to free agency. I'll ask again, how did the Twins approach to free agency help the Twins towards competitiveness either this season or in future seasons?
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    Since a top 100 prospect was the price for KRod, and he is a rental, we can reasonably expect Perkins will bring back more than that. Since I don't think the Twins will be even marginally competitive until 2015 and I don't think they will win the division until 2016 at the earliest I will be disappointed if Perkins is not moved.
  7. Oxtung
    Yup, except the Cubs have 2 new players in their war chest to help them moving forward as well as Edwin Jackson, who despite getting off to a terrible start to the year, has been a good pitcher for going on 6 seasons now. How did the Twins use free agency to improve going forward?
  8. Oxtung

    DeDuno

    Oxtung replied to DaveW's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk

    I think we're having this seasons Diamond conversation about Deduno next season.
  9. Oxtung
    The Cubs had lost 87 games in 2010 then 91 games in 2011 before he was hired. In addition none of the FA moves made this past off season by Epstein were big moves that only a big market team could make. He added $28 million dollars in pitching payroll. The Twins had ~$32 million available just from losing Baker, Pavano, Liriano, Capps, etc...
  10. Oxtung
    Agree to disagree on this. I think it is very hard to say they were not options when Greinke has come out and said he was going to the highest bidder. It's not hindsight if the same things were being said the day Correia and Pelfrey signed. Since they were, let's just call it consistency. You're taking the "didn't try" out of context. It's not that they didn't add pitching depth. It's not that they didn't get warm bodies to toss out there every 5 days. It's that they didn't try to use FA to improve the long term competitiveness of this team in a season when they had the resources, the rotation openings and the pitchers available. That has been clearly covered in previous posts.
  11. Oxtung
    These guys have all signed contracts within the last two years: Zach Greinke $25-26M/year Justin Verlander $24M/year Tim Lincecum $20M/year Matt Cain $20M/year Jared Weaver $18M/year Anibal Sanchez $16-17M/year CJ Wilson $15M/year John Danks $14M/year Matt Harrison $13M/year Edwin Jackson $13M/year Looks to me like Edwin Jackson is getting paid to be a #3 starter which is what kind of pitcher he is. He'll give you 200IP and an average ERA.
  12. Oxtung
    I think you and I are on the same page here. I was trying to make the point that Perkins is a very unique case and it is hard to know what the outcome of a trade would look like.
  13. Oxtung
    I think Perkins would still bring back the best return in prospects, it possibly would just be less than we would hope for. Regardless of the contract Perkins is still the best reliever we have by far and as such would command the largest return when compared to Burton, Fien, etc....
  14. Oxtung
    Jackson has a sub 2 ERA in July. He has a 3.5 ERA in his last 8 starts. I would be willing to make a signature bet that he and Correia have similar ERA's by the end of the season. Feldman brought in 2 pieces that might help the Cubs in the future, which is 2 more than the Twins have added.
  15. Oxtung
    How many trades involve players whose production greatly eclipses their payroll and have many years left on the contract? I would guess most of the time this occurs is when a player is still under their original team control and therefore young and inexpensive. Not many teams are going to trade these players because even if the team isn't currently competitive the belief/hope is that they will be within a few years. Look at Giancarlo Stanton, Miami isn't looking to move him. I also think if Perkins wasn't a reliever we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. Let's say it's Pedroia instead and he's signed for $7 million per season through 2016 are we even contemplating trading him?
  16. Oxtung
    Puck, are you really disappointed with the Worley trade? I understand it hasn't worked out like we all hoped it would but I thought at the time, and still do, that it was a very good move. Disappointing it hasn't worked out but not disappointing that the move was made. From the quote above it seems that you disagree with that view?
  17. Oxtung
    If Pelfrey is a success with a 5.15 ERA and peripherals that match, what would a failure look like?
  18. Oxtung
    To me success this season came down to three things. First, are the Twins competitive, which has been a resounding no, though that was not unexpected. Second, were there any pieces added to the roster that would be long term building blocks helping the Twins be competitive in future seasons. This too clearly is a no. Finally were any prospects added, that can help the Twins be competitive in future seasons, by trading a veteran(s) added in free agency. There is still a chance that Correia or Pelfrey are traded for something significant but, as the 8-ball says, all signs point to no.
  19. Oxtung
    I really want to dive in and pick this apart but I will refrain. Instead I will just say given the tone of your writing, the fact that you're on a message board and more specifically a thread whose sole purpose is to discuss the decisions made by the Twins, I find it odd that you then complain about discussing the decisions being made by the Twins. I think I'll end this by just parroting back your final sentiments and hope that you'll think on them. Childish ranting is rude.
  20. Oxtung
    Isn't this what the "detractors" have been saying since the off season? Ryan basically decided to punt on 2013 instead of taking a chance to improve this squad via free agency. It's the fact that an effort wasn't made that is the biggest problem I think.
  21. Oxtung
    Here is to the Twins bringing in a big haul in the international FA market! *Raises his Nalgene and takes a swig*
  22. Oxtung
    According to ERA+, which adjusts ERA's for league and ballpark, Correia is actually tied for #8th. He also has the 8th in IP from last years FA crop.
  23. Oxtung
    Money saved this year does not get applied in future years. It either gets spent elsewhere within the organization or is profit for the Pohlads.
  24. Oxtung
    Right...because clearly those guys would have been terrible if they had chosen instead to go to free agency instead of resigning with their current team. Elite pitchers make it to free agency because they want to test the waters or because they pitch for a low budget team that cannot afford to resign them.
  25. Oxtung
    I need to be more clear with my writing. I am only talking about their approach in FA. I appreciate what Ryan did in acquiring May, Worley and Meyer as it shows a willingness to try and improve this club for the future. I don't know if it will work out but the attempt is what matters to me. You are the second person tho claim that Correia has improved the club and I wonder how exactly the Correia signing will help this team return to contention?
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