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  1. Radke won 20 games on a 68-94 TEAM. What argument are you trying to make? That the Twins actually won those games for him? This isn't a CC Sabathia case where the pitcher gets wins even when he has a bad performance. It's more of a case that the Twins didn't LOSE those for him. "Not something a pitcher has much control over" is a false statement. Who has more control of a game than the starting pitcher(s)? You allow 6 runs and there's a good chance you don't get the win. You allow 1 run there's a good chance you do win. Quite a bit of control there, but obviously not complete control. I think averaging 204.5IP per season for 12 years is remarkable in itself. A 4.22 career ERA when you pitch that much is pretty great and also consider his career occurred during the the emergence of the steroid era. Kaat only produced 26-27 WAR in Minnesota. Ditto for Viola who only spent 1/2 his career as a Twin. Radke nearly doubles that with 45.6. Santana only pitched 8 years in Minnesota and gave us 6 great ones. I don't think that's enough even with him being the best pitcher in baseball at the time. Furthermore, I don't understand why you all are alluding to him getting more consideration than Radke after the trade debacle. Radke is the best Twins pitcher of all time in terms of value provided besides Bert Blyleven.
  2. I'd like to think I've hit 1,000HRs, but if this is the standard well....
  3. He's got the credentials, he pitched his entire career here, and is the epitome of a Twins pitcher. #6 in career WAR as a Twin, NINE 200+IP seasons (4 220+), spent 12 excellent years in Minnesota, and is just a good guy. Tony Oliva and Kent Hrbek have had their numbers retired and I don't think either were as big as contributors over their careers. Both were very good, however, let's not get into that. Since #22 has been disgraced by the likes of Danny Valencia, Matt Carson, and Wilkin Ramirez most recently, can we do it a little justice?
  4. I'm interested in Lincecum, but not for the price. A 2 year deal isn't great for us because we're not contenders in 2 years. If he mystically returned to form during his tenure, it's nothing more than a lengthy tryout. If he doesn't, he isn't even close to worth it. I don't see a good reason to lose out on a 2nd round pick (that has a fair chance of working out) and payroll for a lousy pitcher that's only asset is the strikeout. -2.3 WAR over the last two seasons doesn't look good. And do remember that this is the same team that couldn't fix Francisco Liriano. The only pitcher I'd give over 12 million a year to is Tanaka. All together, I'd like Tanaka, Hughes, and Kazmir.
  5. Thorpe's numbers at GCL for a 17 year old are ridiculous. He it up and I can see why he'd give him a higher ranking. Not solely based on his 44IP, however. 5 mph more on his fastball is very significant and perhaps he'll add even more to it. A lefty with big upside is very valuable. I like the Stewart over Meyer decision. Given a choice between the two, I'd rather have Stewart. I really can't disagree with anything in this, but I think it's about that time where Harrison should slip a little bit until he can prove himself.
  6. No big deal. I bet the Twins swoop in last minute and nab him.
  7. Herrmann should, but the others should stay. Chris was bad with Twins and even worse with the Red Wings. My personal feeling is it was a clubhouse thing and the "suckage" was contagious. A few injury issues here and there for Josh too. What's 10 million to spend elsewhere when we currently have 50 million we aren't spending elsewhere? Also, you don't win a division with a bunch of 20 year old kids. You need veterans, especially since the coaching staff sure as hell can't teach these kids anything.
  8. That's fine. What I mean is a player with top of the rotation potential will alone put him in a general top 150 (for all prospects). Not often do you see pitchers come out of no where.
  9. Because 481 ABs takes precedence over a 5 year trend. If 2 wins is meaningless, how are you going to get those 2 wins back in a trade? You'd really have to cross your fingers that we don't get some Hendriks/Hernandez #6 pitcher in return. Also I apologize for not multi-quoting, people.
  10. Trevor May, Tyler Duffey, Zach Jones, DJ Baxendale, and Trevor May will not be #3 SPs or better. Also, I didn't say "top 150 prospects". I said "top 150 pitching prospects" or pitching prospects who would rank in an overall top 150.
  11. He's sort of like Span in that I think he's a very good player, but only a fringe all-star that might make it once or twice. That's assuming we got the real deal.
  12. Let's just go with a 14 man bullpen. Starters can pitch 4 innings each at the "Scott Diamond Line". There's too much talent and not enough spots if you go with a traditional pen.
  13. It's funny that you think people want Willingham and Doumit. Willingham can possibly contribute to the Twins in the future if put in the right situation (Think Danny V for the O's at worst), but what do you think teams will give up for a 34 year old OF coming off his worst season? You're not going to get a top 150 pitching prospect and those are the only ones worth trading for. No one wants to pay him 7 million a season, but we can so why not keep a high OBP guy? Hammer produced over 2 WAR for 5 years straight prior to 2013. Then, also consider that your replacement level guy is Clete Thomas and I think it adds some more. Doumit is terrible through and through and won't provide playing value or trade value. I don't think there's any question about him.
  14. I think we should trade Buxton, Sano, and Rosario for prospects once they get good too while we're at it. We can just develop players for other teams. Seriously, at some point you have to start holding onto players. Trading Dozier makes NO sense at all because he's young, unproven in other's eyes, and plays an important defensive position. Sorry I have to say it that way, but I'm frustrated that once a player has value we want to kick them out. Dozier has a good chance to be our best 2B since Knoblauch. As for pitching, we're going to have to wait. Personally, I think you either pursue an elite pitching prospect or none at all. They're extremely risky and only the cream of the crop end up being the #1s, #2s, and #3s in the league. And most teams are not very keen on trading elite pitching prospects.
  15. So the point is that Twins players did use steroids, but just not enough.
  16. Lots of restrictions, but I don't see why this you'd eliminate half the MLB teams with this. Willingham I understand a little, but as a prototypical moneyball player, I think he can contribute to any team that needs a righty. The Phillies were brave enough to try Delmon Young, so I'm sure they would be ok with Willingham. The Diamondbacks could really use him to replace Adam Eaton. He'd be a reasonable upgrade over Ludwick on the Reds. The Mets and Pirates also could use him too. Not seeing any matches for Doumit in the NL and I'd agree he's basically a NL only guy. The Yankees and Blue Jays seem like they need a lot of help there, so maybe we could get them to donate something to us. I'm not completely on board with trading Willingham because I'm not convinced anyone on this team could be an improvement at LF or DH. Trading him for scraps after one of his worst seasons just doesn't add up. All it would be is a payroll dump for the Pohlad's. I'd much rather see Josh out there than Clete Thomas or Alex Presley. There just aren't many outfielders at AAA or AA now that could replace him unless you convert Rosario back. Doumit can leave for all I care. We have Mauer and Pinto who are both better and Herrmann isn't much worse than him. He sucks as a DH, so there goes that too. We'd be lucky to get what we got for Butera by trading him.
  17. I really am not convinced that Pressly is a good long term option from the bullpen. I have a strong conviction that he'll have a big sophomore slump, but the question is how far?
  18. Unfortunately true, even though our run differential was exactly twice as bad as Chicago's... (and 29th in the MLB)
  19. Since kneed was also misspelled, I assume it's intentional. Brad would never screw up twice since he's my idle.
  20. Really, really bad control problems. But hey that's what we're good at fixing (if anything).
  21. Wetteland was not a better pitcher. Nathan's numbers are all around better. WHIP, K/9, saves, WAR (significantly), IP, ERA, and so on. The steroid era is completely irrelevant because you can't prove a reasonable amount of players were taking them prior to 2000 (or the end of Wtland career). As a percent of all major league batters, it's likely pretty small. We'll never more than 100-110 on the Mitchell report. Nathan doesn't have a great case for HOF now, but if he maintains his current form (Always has so far minus injury) for 2-3 years, he should be in. Like I said with saves, 3rd is attainable. If Nathan gets 4.1 more WAR (had 5.1 in the past two seasons combined), he's above every single reliever in the game besides the 4 HOF RP (Including Rivera). Much of Eckersly's value came from being a starting pitcher prior. As a relief pitcher (age 32-43), he had an ERA of 2.96, 8.8 K/9, .999 WHIP, and 790 IP. Which translates to 16.8 WAR which is much less than what Nathan has produced. In terms of true relief pitchers Nathan could very well end up behind Rivera, Gossage, and Wilhelm only if the former occurs.
  22. Rivera was a pretty late bloomer too. He had his first good season at age 26 while Nathan had his at 28. If Mariano can pitch til he's 43, I don't see how Nathan (38) can't for a few more years. Only 27 saves away from 7th and I think 4th is definitely attainable with 2 more 40 save seasons. I don't see any way he can top Hoffman or Rivera, but I think besting Smith is the highest he can achieve. I know people like to look at saves, but they really aren't the greatest stat to look at.
  23. What exactly is Lee Smith better than Nathan in, besides saves (a counting stat)? Honestly, there really isn't anything. Total WAR too, but Nathan has a good chance to get ahead of that. WAR per year on the other hand is overwhelmingly in Nathan's favor.
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