You're right, that part of the quote by "Phil" (I didn't search the site to see if anyone else shared the view) crossed a line big-time. I think I didn't react to it at first because I infer discomfort that I share surrounding the spectrum of behaviors that go 1) "People might or might not notice, I don't care either way" 2) "Yes, I *want* and even *need* it out there, people can mind their own business" 3) "In fact, I'd like someone to call me out on it, it's a conversation I would *love* to have" 4) "LOOK AT MEEEEE!" For concreteness, I think Walters is at #2 and Tim Tebow is at #3, for whatever it is worth. "Phil" is mixed up badly to think these are the same as #4. Hm, I wonder what <strike>antics</strike> gestures Tebow might attempt if he were a pitcher. Sorry, no. I don't actually mean to threadjack.