Riverbrian

The Braves added 28 million in Starting Pitching this off season and they were rumored to be having serious discussion about acquiring Chris Sale. I think the Braves may think they are closer to competitive than others do. I understand that Colon and Dickey were one year contracts but they could have tossed Wisler and Blair into the rotation. The offense would certainly look more formidable if they acquired Dozier and... how about Todd Frazier as well.

There needs to be a deadline. The Dodgers will need to find a 2B if Dozier is unavailable. The Twins may want to add a 2B/SS if Dozier is traded. Those potential options might not be there for either team as other teams lock down their roster more and more each day. The longer it goes the more handicapped everybody becomes.

Dozier to Cards Cards Pitcher to Twins Wong to Braves Braves Pitcher to Twins

Rays need offense.

I know... we have many Brian Dozier threads... so... another couldn't hurt. Post your Three Team Trade Ideas Here Just for Giggles I'll throw one out Dozier to Pirates McCutchen to Mets Mets Pitching to Twins Plus whatever from whoever to tidy it up.

Dozier is not "poor defense". Not even close. He can play.

I'd have a different order but that doesn't matter. The 10 players listed are all great players. What a great list to be on. All 10 players would significantly improve the current Dodgers 2B situation. I wonder how many of the 10 could be acquired by the Dodgers with a coupon.

Yep... The Dodgers get some skin in the game in terms of risk. However... The majority of the risk is with the Twins because Dozier will certainly improve the 2B position.

It could quite possibly be my interpretation of Hawkeye's quote. It read backhanded to me. Kind of like... Despite the size of Karl Malden's nose... he's a pretty good actor.

The more I read stuff like Dozier is an avg. defender. The further away I become from ever believing defensive metrics. Dozier can play the position. There is absolutely no reason to feel that acquiring Dozier is some sort of defensive sacrifice.

The Twins were really humpy last year

I only have opinions on pitchers that I've seen throw. I haven't seen DeLeon or Alverez throw and I refuse to rely on third party articles and rankings to form my opinions. As strange as it may sound... My strong opinion on the Dozier rumors is 100% mine and was formed without having a strong opinion on the individual prospects being offered. I want Falvey/Lavine to get what they want and not settle for less. I have no opinion on what would be less. Berrios... I've seen him pitch... Last year was a disappointment but it was going to be a disappointment with his command issues. Once he starts trusting his stuff against the best in the world... his command should improve and when that happens... I think he has the stuff to be a top of the rotation guy. I'm glad he's a Twin... We are going to need him.

I agree on the Playoff crap shoot. However... Dozier would make the Dodgers better and when you are looking at a top heavy National League with the Mets, Nats, Cubs, Cards, Pirates and Giants. Add to that a big payroll and the reason for big payrolls is to produce a winner now. I'd say that pressure to get better would talk me into trying to get better now.

AZTwin... I'm not going to hide your post but I'm gonna ask you to not make blanket assumptions. I'm pretty sure Dodger Fans are just like Twins Fans. You'll probably find Dodger Fans that Overate their prospects and Dodger Fans that underrate their prospects and some Dodger Fans that rate them just right. Also keep in mind the difference in value that Twins Fans have expressed on the value of Brian Dozier. It's a difference of opinion and nothing more. Now if you want to say that Dodger Fans have more money... Yeah... that would be true.

It's a good article and I believe that is exactly what Friedman is thinking. However... I think Friedman will find that those plan B options are not as available as they think they are. Therefore the Dodgers are in the same type of boat as the Twins. If they can't bring Dozier in... The next option is just as expensive in terms of prospects... or more expensive in terms of contract or... quite a drop off in terms of talent. If they want RH Power to fill that gaping hole at 2B. Go down the list and watch the options go away one by one. The 2B market is soft for the seller and the buyer in my opinion. There is pressure on Falvey/Lavine to make a good first trade with their only decent trade chip but there is also pressure on the Dodgers to win and if they don't win and Dozier clubs 35 home runs in another uniform in 2017 it will be a mistake that will be pointed out. Stay Strong Falvey/Lavine!!! The Twins don't have to settle... Make the Dodgers Settle.

Bloggers can be social?

I hope not based on the rumored offers thus far.

I have often wondered what the dollar value of a prospect is. If Boston wanted to buy Tyler Jay from the Twins for example. How big a check should the Red Sox write. I love creativity and I hope the discussions are considering all of this and more. I also wouldn't mind some 3 or 4 team deal creativity either.

Wasswa Serwanga to you Sconnie as well.

With absolutely no credible information to go on... My Spidey Sense puts the odds at Staying with the Twins 50% Traded to any of the other 29 teams 29% Traded to the Dodgers 16% Dozier becomes the next great Mississippi Blues Singer 5%

I absolutely loved watching Ben Revere play the game and he quickly became one of my favorite Twins ever. I was going to edit my post to include Ben Revere in my top 5 but then I realized that forgetting him probably means he doesn't belong. So I'm going to keep him at 6. I also didn't put my Favorite Memory and that was the Hrbek Game 6 Grand Slam. His Arms straight out as he rounded the bases was double special because my arms were doing the same thing. Future favorite memory: I was at Tiger Stadium and I saw Byron Buxton hit his very first MLB Home Run.

A. You are probably smarter than the rest of us B. Please stay because you are vital to keeping our demographic average in a more sell-able range.

Sconnie, Thank you for this twist in the discussion. I absolutely love the analogy. Allow me to pile on to it. 1. We as fans have access to the CRA reports. Just change Moody's to Keith Law or Fitch to Baseball America and those of us on the outside gobble up this information and quote as gospel thinking we got ourselves a winner without considering that the guys working for the credit rating agencies are the guys who couldn't get a a much better paying job on wall street and are relying on the wall street guys for their information and it is in the interest of the wall street guys to inflate the value of anything they are holding. The system can be gamed and most likely is reverse engineered. 2. In the Case of Brian Dozier for Jose DeLeon... This mortgage backed security is an individual mortgage. It has not been packaged together to minimize the risk. No one would trade the safety of a bond even if it is approaching maturity for a single mortgage unless you had some inside information that the land it sits on will appreciate because you know developers are going to be putting in an Applebee's, School and Park or you know that if they put in that sunroom it would at least halt the depreciation of the structure. However... in this case... the Dodgers are the ones who most likely have the inside information needed to make an informed decision and they have basically said... you can't have this one and you can't have this one... but you can have this one. 3. All we got is this single well paying bond and no idea if DeLeon is Sub-Prime AAA rated by Keith Law and about to be rated Junk ala Alex Meyer. 4. The market changes every day... The Dodgers could go to plan B and trade with the Yankees and now the Yankees need a 2B and it all changes. I'd wait and see what happens.

Stay strong my friend... Freidman is good at this sort of thing and I'm willing to bet anyone that Friedman wouldn't take the deal he is offering us if he was GM of the Twins. Friedman isn't going to trade more than he has to and he isn't going to feel like he has to if he feels like the Twins HAVE TO TRADE Dozier. Akroyd would have gotten more for that watch if he walks away from Bo Diddley after hearing the price. Being able to keep Dozier and coming up with other ways to get better is our best leverage. Don't give them potentially their best hitter for their third best prospect. Jose DeLeon by himself isn't enough to fix our problems anyway and I know absolutely nothing about DeLeon. You turn the tables on Friedman by forcing him to use plan B, C ,D or E. You force him to acquire Jed Lowrie instead because the Rockies won't take DeLeon straight up either... The Rays need Forsythe more than they need DeLeon... The Tigers are suddenly not going to tear things down with the AL Central declining like it is. Robinson Cano and Starlin Castro cost too much money. Force him to go down the list and settle for Jed Lowrie. Make the Dodgers settle instead of forcing the Twins to settle. And settling is what happens when you HAVE TO TRADE him.