CDog doesn't need my support. He can be biting and direct but he's fairly smart. He's called me out on occasion and I answer back with I don't know or finish my thinking and we move on. LOL... actually, he probably prefers that I don't support him. However, he is absolutely correct in my opinion. Jokin, I apologize if I misunderstood the context of your post above but to me it looked like you aligned yourself with Badsmerf. You did not mention crying in this post. But it does seem to be support of Badsmerf who did. I've read your posts... I enjoy your posts... you are also a smart guy... Sometime we disagree but that's only natural. I was shocked to see you jump into this camp. Clearly you are smart enough to realize that Joe answered a question and for this to be perceived as crying or whining is my issue. This isn't anything new... Over the decades players are often quoted and taken out of context and it leads to the Sports Cliche. Once you starting getting cliche's... You just get removed furthur from what is really happening.